Re: Two Macedonias

2004-09-25 Thread Claus Färber
Vassilis Grigoriadis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb/wrote: > According to the EU Resolution FYROM cannot have the name Macedonia. It's not a EU Resolution. The Council of Europe (www.coe.int) is not (part of) the European Union but an independent international organisation, of which the FYR Macedonia

Debian Hardened project status.

2004-09-25 Thread Lorenzo Hernandez Garcia-Hierro
Hi, I've started a few time ago (as many of you could know) the Debian Hardened project , as an approach to Debian's mainline security. Currently, the project is in a mature state of development with many things already done and also a lot of testing of the work. I've ported to Debian Sarge's GCC

Re: Two Macedonias

2004-09-25 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Anton Zinoviev ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > On Sat, Sep 25, 2004 at 02:47:51PM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: > > > > "Macedonian Republic" (the latter is better for sorting issues). > > Please don't use "Macedonian Republic", but "Macedonia, Republic of" OK, point taken. Remember, folks th

Re: Proposal of new "admin" pseudo BTS package

2004-09-25 Thread Christian Hammers
Hello Adam On 2004-09-24 Adam Heath wrote: > > I therefore propose to create a pseudo bug packages for "mail" issues > > (and/or maybe one for general "admin" topics) like the existing > > "lists.debian.org" or"www.debian.org". > > > > This would surely not a way to make them act faster but a way

Re: Two Macedonias

2004-09-25 Thread Anton Zinoviev
On Sat, Sep 25, 2004 at 10:19:41AM +0300, John Manganas wrote: > > Please Anton help us to reach the truth. Help the international Debian > community to understand your point. I hope the following is part of the truth. There are two or maybe even three versions of "Macedonia". Let me call the

Re: Two Macedonias

2004-09-25 Thread Anton Zinoviev
On Sat, Sep 25, 2004 at 02:47:51PM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: > > "Macedonian Republic" (the latter is better for sorting issues). Please don't use "Macedonian Republic", but "Macedonia, Republic of" Anton Zinoviev

Re: Two Macedonias

2004-09-25 Thread Ognyan Kulev
Christian Perrier wrote: Quoting Ognyan Kulev ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I read the 2 relevant threads in this list. Unfortunately, there isn't any sign of opinion about "Macedonia (Slav)". Well, I have the feeling that it may be offensive to non slavic minorities in MK, if there are some. Yes, y

Re: Two Macedonias

2004-09-25 Thread Christian Perrier
(CC list reduced as of the request of George) Quoting Ognyan Kulev ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Anton Zinoviev wrote: > >I am a member of a Macedonian mailing list so I can tell you what the > >macedonians wrote. (http://hedona.on.net.mk/mailman/listinfo/ossm-members) > > >Yes, they prefer "Macedonia"

Re: Two Macedonias

2004-09-25 Thread Ognyan Kulev
Anton Zinoviev wrote: I am a member of a Macedonian mailing list so I can tell you what the macedonians wrote. (http://hedona.on.net.mk/mailman/listinfo/ossm-members) Yes, they prefer "Macedonia" to "Macedonia, Rep. of". However they would also accept "Macedonia, Rep. of" because this is the

Estabilished practice (was: Re: Two Macedonias)

2004-09-25 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 25 Sep 2004, florian klinglmueller wrote: > On Fri, Sep 24, 2004 at 04:21:57PM +0100, MJ Ray wrote: > > On 2004-09-24 15:41:54 +0100 Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Following others in the area of geographical names helps to avoid > > >conflicts. It's not Debian's task to ta

Re: Two Macedonias

2004-09-25 Thread George Papamichelakis
Please gyus, this (among with others ) is a list about the translation procces of a free operating system. Problems like Greece - FYROM or China - Taiwan (as it was during the summertime for those who remember) have nothing to do with Debian. Each country has a name according to the standards.

Re: Two Macedonias

2004-09-25 Thread John Manganas
Hello At first they do not want to make flames with history, politics, etc - this would be counterproductive. That is why they don't take part in these discussions. WOW Anton that explains everything! You are all for productivity!!! But please, please tell your FYROMian friends to take part

Re: Two Macedonias

2004-09-25 Thread Anton Zinoviev
I have mist a lot of stuff - I am reading only debian-boot. ;-) On Sat, Sep 25, 2004 at 03:58:00AM +0200, siward wrote: > > Anton Zinoviev wrote : > > I am sure that nobody from Republic of Macedonia will complain > > if Debian uses this longer name instead of simply Macedonia. > > I fear that

Re: Two Macedonias

2004-09-25 Thread John Manganas
Hello and Goodmorning > To the ones that called Kyrie Margaritos a 'seller of his country' : Konstantinos Margaritis.I think he will not like having his name misspelled... "Kyrie" in Greek means "Mr." or "Sir". It is not a name. To the ones that did this, they're simply crappy narrow-mi

Re: Two Macedonias

2004-09-25 Thread John Manganas
Hello and Goodmorning, By the way, John, on Debian mailinglists, stressing a point is done by _underscoring_ it. Ooops. I 'll use underscoring from now on. Thank you John Manganas _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2

Re: Two Macedonias

2004-09-25 Thread Christian Perrier
(far too long CC list removed) I'm afraid you're mixing a lot of stuff in your mail. However, you didn't give us more solutions to the current problem. By chance, this solution is appearing as the name "Republic of Macedonia" seems acceptable to the people who raised this issue : the Macedonian l