Re: Please appoint one new person to the DSA Team

2006-12-20 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 04:06:56PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > I would greatly appreciate it if people would help the process by > supporting the efforts of the DSA team consistently rather than heaping > praise on them when they fix compromises and scorn on them the rest of > the time. It would

Re: Please appoint one new person to the DSA Team

2006-12-20 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 04:06:56PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > I would greatly appreciate it if people would help the process by > supporting the efforts of the DSA team consistently rather than heaping > praise on them when they fix compromises and scorn on them the rest of > the time. It would

Re: Please appoint one new person to the DSA Team

2006-12-20 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 10:43:48PM -0800, Mike Bird wrote: > 4) What kind of Debian Project unprivileged admin tasks are so secret >that discussion thereof must occur in private? The issue isn't that secrecy is required; just that discussing these things in public on Debian fora turns into a g

Re: Please appoint one new person to the DSA Team

2006-12-20 Thread Russ Allbery
Mike Bird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wednesday 20 December 2006 22:06, Anthony Towns wrote: >> It would also be helpful if there were people who are able to >> commit time to do significant but boring tasks to help DSA, expecting >> neither praise, acknowledgement or, most importantly, any a

Re: Please appoint one new person to the DSA Team

2006-12-20 Thread Mike Bird
On Wednesday 20 December 2006 22:06, Anthony Towns wrote: > It would also be helpful if there were people who are able to > commit time to do significant but boring tasks to help DSA, expecting > neither praise, acknowledgement or, most importantly, any additional > rights/priveleges in return. If

Re: Please appoint one new person to the DSA Team

2006-12-20 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 08:38:33PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Would you, as DPL, please try to address the original issue? Martin, Branden and myself have all been trying to address the original issue as DPL; messages like the one beginning this thread don't help, and setting up unofficial aut

Re: Please appoint one new person to the DSA Team

2006-12-20 Thread Russ Allbery
Anthony Towns writes: > On Sun, Dec 17, 2006 at 09:06:01PM +0100, Aurelien Jarno wrote: >> It is known among debian developers that the Debian System >> Administration Team (aka DSA or [EMAIL PROTECTED]) is not >> really responsive. > So apparently this complaint was immediately followed up by s

Re: Please appoint one new person to the DSA Team

2006-12-20 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Anthony Towns wrote: > On Sun, Dec 17, 2006 at 09:06:01PM +0100, Aurelien Jarno wrote: >> It is known among debian developers that the Debian System >> Administration Team (aka DSA or [EMAIL PROTECTED]) is not >> really responsive. > > So apparently this complaint was immediately followed up by s

Re: Please appoint one new person to the DSA Team

2006-12-20 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Aurelien Jarno wrote: > Hi, > > It is known among debian developers that the Debian System > Administration Team (aka DSA or [EMAIL PROTECTED]) is not > really responsive. > > Here are a few examples: > - The machine "escher.debian.org" is locked down [1] for more than 6 >months, I didn't e

Re: Please appoint one new person to the DSA Team

2006-12-20 Thread Bill Allombert
On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 02:22:43AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Sun, Dec 17, 2006 at 09:06:01PM +0100, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > > It is known among debian developers that the Debian System > > Administration Team (aka DSA or [EMAIL PROTECTED]) is not > > really responsive. > > So apparently th

Re: Rogue autobuilders

2006-12-20 Thread Julien BLACHE
Michael Banck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, > Running rogue autobuilders does not help Debian in the long term, and > will only lead to useless tension. The best way to help a lagging port Running rogue autobuilders as you put it has saved a couple of architectures and unstuck testing a few ti

Re: Explications needed...

2006-12-20 Thread Michael Banck
[this discussion is off-topic on -devel, please follow-up on -project] On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 05:51:55PM +0100, Luk Claes wrote: > How did Aurelien get wanna-build access for his buildd He didn't, it's a rogue autobuilder. Which is the reason it got blacklisted. > or did he not ask for it...

Re: Please appoint one new person to the DSA Team

2006-12-20 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 06:07:29PM +0100, Julien Danjou wrote: > At 1166631763 time_t, Anthony Towns wrote: > > So apparently this complaint was immediately followed up by setting up an > > emulated autobuilder not synced in with the regular buildd.debian.org > > stuff [0]. This resulted in James a

Re: Please appoint one new person to the DSA Team

2006-12-20 Thread Julien Danjou
At 1166631763 time_t, Anthony Towns wrote: > So apparently this complaint was immediately followed up by setting up an > emulated autobuilder not synced in with the regular buildd.debian.org > stuff [0]. This resulted in James and Ryan adding a quick hack to > disable arm uploads, which have remain

Re: Please appoint one new person to the DSA Team

2006-12-20 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 02:22:43AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Sun, Dec 17, 2006 at 09:06:01PM +0100, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > > It is known among debian developers that the Debian System > > Administration Team (aka DSA or [EMAIL PROTECTED]) is not > > really responsive. > > So apparently th

Re: Please appoint one new person to the DSA Team

2006-12-20 Thread Aurelien Jarno
Anthony Towns a écrit : > On Sun, Dec 17, 2006 at 09:06:01PM +0100, Aurelien Jarno wrote: >> It is known among debian developers that the Debian System >> Administration Team (aka DSA or [EMAIL PROTECTED]) is not >> really responsive. > > So apparently this complaint was immediately followed up b

Re: Rogue autobuilders (was: Re: New ARM autobuilders)

2006-12-20 Thread Aurelien Jarno
Michael Banck a écrit : > Running rogue autobuilders does not help Debian in the long term, and > will only lead to useless tension. The best way to help a lagging port > is to identify arch-specific build failures which need real porting (and and packages never uploaded, packages never requeued,

Re: Explications needed...

2006-12-20 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 05:29:41PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: > On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 05:03:35PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > Aurelien mailed debian-arm, went to #debian-arm, had no response. He > > then warn about his intention [1] to run qemu-based autobuilders to fill > > the gap due t

Re: Please appoint one new person to the DSA Team

2006-12-20 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 04:27:41PM +, Simon Huggins wrote: > > So apparently this complaint was immediately followed up by setting up an > > emulated autobuilder not synced in with the regular buildd.debian.org > > stuff [0]. [...] > PS you're missing your footnote. [0] http://blog.aurel32.net

Re: Debian Weekly News - November 28th, 2006

2006-12-20 Thread Wesley J. Landaker
On Tuesday 19 December 2006 13:36, MJ Ray wrote: > Please do not rely on image support, and please do not promote 'just > use $BROWSER instead' as a solution if you do so. > > "1.1 Provide a text equivalent for every non-text element [...] > This includes: images [...]" > > -- the Web Content A

Re: Explications needed...

2006-12-20 Thread Michael Banck
On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 05:03:35PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > Aurelien mailed debian-arm, went to #debian-arm, had no response. He > then warn about his intention [1] to run qemu-based autobuilders to fill > the gap due to broken arm buildds. He did that on the open, and got ... > zero answe

Re: Please appoint one new person to the DSA Team

2006-12-20 Thread Simon Huggins
On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 02:22:43AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Sun, Dec 17, 2006 at 09:06:01PM +0100, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > > It is known among debian developers that the Debian System > > Administration Team (aka DSA or [EMAIL PROTECTED]) is not > > really responsive. > So apparently this

Re: Please appoint one new person to the DSA Team

2006-12-20 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, Dec 17, 2006 at 09:06:01PM +0100, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > It is known among debian developers that the Debian System > Administration Team (aka DSA or [EMAIL PROTECTED]) is not > really responsive. So apparently this complaint was immediately followed up by setting up an emulated autobuil

Rogue autobuilders (was: Re: New ARM autobuilders)

2006-12-20 Thread Michael Banck
Hi, (not really directed at Aurelien personally, but rather talking in general) On December 17th, 2006, Aurelien Jarno wrote on his blog: > As [EMAIL PROTECTED] is everything but responsive (well if you can > assign a level of responsiveness to /dev/null), I have decided to act. I > have installe

Re: snapshot.d.n (was: Complaint about #debian operator)

2006-12-20 Thread Andreas Schuldei
* Andrew Saunders ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [061220 16:20]: > On 12/14/05, Andreas Schuldei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >actually, NetApp (the storage company) and Intel (the chip > >manufacture) are solving this problem for us. we get a 7 or > >10Tbyte storage from NetApp and two beefy servers to us

Re: snapshot.d.n (was: Complaint about #debian operator)

2006-12-20 Thread Andrew Saunders
On 12/14/05, Andreas Schuldei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: actually, NetApp (the storage company) and Intel (the chip manufacture) are solving this problem for us. we get a 7 or 10Tbyte storage from NetApp and two beefy servers to use as a front end for both CD/DVD generation and serving of CDs/DV