Re: updates in stable do happen

2007-04-10 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Wed, 11 Apr 2007, Bart Martens wrote: > On Wed, 2007-04-11 at 10:34 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > > that nothing will happen anymore in Debian stable in the next 24 > > months. > > That is sooo not true. Please see the sections "News" and "Security > Advisories" on this page [1]. This is far

updates in stable do happen

2007-04-10 Thread Bart Martens
On Wed, 2007-04-11 at 10:34 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > that nothing will happen anymore in Debian stable in the next 24 > months. That is sooo not true. Please see the sections "News" and "Security Advisories" on this page [1]. This is far from "nothing". If you feel that some packages in s

When Debian 4.1 will arrive... will anyone care?

2007-04-10 Thread Charles Plessy
Dear all, There is one fact that I find very true in this article (which in general takes an unnecessary polemic tone). Some users, I guess some developpers and contributors, and at least myself, find it very demotivating to think that a new release means that nothing will happen

Re: Debian 4.0 finally arrives... does anyone care?

2007-04-10 Thread dann frazier
On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 10:39:22AM +0300, Riku Voipio wrote: > 1) there is a bug in etch kernel. (#418344 seems) > > While the bug was mentioned in some forums, it was not reported in > time to BTS. Clearly there are users who find using BTS daunting, and > thus we don't get bugreports in timely f

Re: Debian 4.0 finally arrives... does anyone care?

2007-04-10 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 01:23:11PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > On Tue, 10 Apr 2007, MJ Ray wrote: > >The subject should be: SJVN flames debian again... does anyone care? > Yes - as long there are some pure facts we should care. If you find some facts in there, feel free to summarize them for t

Re: Debian 4.0 finally arrives... does anyone care?

2007-04-10 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Nico and *, Am 2007-04-10 14:41:03, schrieb Nico Golde: > No especially not if I get: > Configuration file `/etc/subversion/config' > ==> Modified (by you or by a script) since installation. > ==> Package distributor has shipped an updated version. >What would you like to do about it ?

Re: release update: security problems force "etch" delay of 4-6 weeks

2007-04-10 Thread Michelle Konzack
The one WHO had send this messages should DOWNWRITE 100 TIMES the RFC since the "Message-ID:" header is invalid! It show: Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] but it should: Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> And then, I like Ice-Cream and the "From:" was jumping directly into my eyes... :-) Hap

Re: Debian 4.0 finally arrives... does anyone care?

2007-04-10 Thread Nico Golde
Hi, * Philippe Cloutier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-04-10 16:27]: > If someone is not satisfied with a problem in Etch, I strongly > suggest to report the problem and get it listed in errata if > appropriate. Sure if it would be reproducable and I could get a bit more useful information I would d

Re: Re: Debian 4.0 finally arrives... does anyone care?

2007-04-10 Thread Philippe Cloutier
If someone is not satisfied with a problem in Etch, I strongly suggest to report the problem and get it listed in errata if appropriate. Mailing lists are for discussion, not to be a release. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL

Re: Debian 4.0 finally arrives... does anyone care?

2007-04-10 Thread Nico Golde
Hi, * Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-04-10 13:22]: > On Tue, 10 Apr 2007, MJ Ray wrote: > > >The subject should be: SJVN flames debian again... does anyone > >care? > > Yes - as long there are some pure facts we should care. > I don't come to the same conclusion of the article author bu

Re: Debian 4.0 finally arrives... does anyone care?

2007-04-10 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, 10 Apr 2007, MJ Ray wrote: The subject should be: SJVN flames debian again... does anyone care? Yes - as long there are some pure facts we should care. I don't come to the same conclusion of the article author but not to care is the wrong reaction only because the author is known to fl

Re: Debian 4.0 finally arrives... does anyone care?

2007-04-10 Thread MJ Ray
Adrian von Bidder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS5673962628.html > Merely somebody who likes Fedora and (Open)SuSE better than Debian, or > somebody who has a realistic view of the world? [...] No, somebody who likes to troll debian almost every chance they get. I

Re: Debian 4.0 finally arrives... does anyone care?

2007-04-10 Thread Joey Hess
Adrian von Bidder wrote: > http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS5673962628.html http://www.acc.umu.se/technical/statistics/ftp/monitordata/index.html -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Debian 4.0 finally arrives... does anyone care?

2007-04-10 Thread Riku Voipio
On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 08:19:03AM +0200, Adrian von Bidder wrote: > http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS5673962628.html > Merely somebody who likes Fedora and (Open)SuSE better than Debian, or > somebody who has a realistic view of the world? While I'm personally happy > to use etch, I might be