Re: About the recent DD retirements

2015-01-24 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, 2015-01-23 at 10:57 +, Anthony Towns wrote: > - having automated scripts pull everything from CPAN (et al), package >it as debs, and publish it That already exists IIRC but I don't know where it is. If you want to work on the more general problem here I'd suggest looking at two

Re: About the recent DD retirements

2015-01-24 Thread Russ Allbery
Tollef Fog Heen writes: > That requires tracking ABI versions. People often don't do that. They > (effectively) statically link and then just test the resulting binary > and distribute that, including all dependencies. > There are certainly downsides to this approach, but it's what lots of > t

Re: About the recent DD retirements

2015-01-24 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Keith Packard > Tollef Fog Heen writes: > > > This means that if you use system packages and want to have two > > applications that both want foo.jar installed, but different versions > > (since they need different APIs or different bug compatibility), we > > don't support that well. For C l

Re: About the recent DD retirements

2015-01-24 Thread Russ Allbery
Tollef Fog Heen writes: > This also points at something not explicitly mentioned: Our support for > multiple versions of the same package is pretty much non-existent. (You > can hard-code the version into the package name. This causes NEW pain, > this kinda breaks dependencies and doesn't map w

Re: About the recent DD retirements

2015-01-24 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 09:59:17AM -0800, Keith Packard wrote: > Tollef Fog Heen writes: > > This means that if you use system packages and want to have two > > applications that both want foo.jar installed, but different versions > > (since they need different APIs or different bug compatibility

Re: About the recent DD retirements

2015-01-24 Thread Keith Packard
Tollef Fog Heen writes: > This means that if you use system packages and want to have two > applications that both want foo.jar installed, but different versions > (since they need different APIs or different bug compatibility), we > don't support that well. For C libraries, there are sonames an

Re: About the recent DD retirements

2015-01-24 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Anthony Towns > On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 11:29:19AM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > > Anthony Towns dijo [Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 10:57:55AM +]: > > > (Yes, I really think Debian should have 300k+ packages, including > > > everything in all the language archives, no matter how special purposes > >

How many people are working on our packages (Was: Team statistics updated)

2015-01-24 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 11:35:19PM +0100, Joachim Breitner wrote: > > http://blends.debian.net/liststats/ > > > > to show who belongs to your team. > > nice. Can you add the Haskell team? We are on debian-haskell, maintainer > field is pkg-haskell-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org. Do