Re: On demotions to DM status.

2019-01-06 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Mon, Jan 07, 2019 at 12:47:34AM +, Richard Hecker wrote: > Does the project want to say that a DM is less trustworthy than a DD? Yes, obviously. Just like a DM is more trustworthy than a non-DM. > Should a DM becoming a DD be viewed as a promotion? But it is, isn't it? Or, at least, as a n

Re: Expulsions Policy

2019-01-06 Thread Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
2019-01-06 01:03 Steve Langasek: On Sat, Jan 05, 2019 at 06:48:31PM +1000, Russell Stuart wrote: It probably isn't, because that effort you say is so unreasonable - the the DAM actually do it. Did see read the their private email to the person concerned - that would be it. This thing you are

Re: Censorship in Debian

2019-01-06 Thread Miles Fidelman
On 1/6/19 1:38 AM, Steve Langasek wrote: On Fri, Jan 04, 2019 at 03:43:33PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: It sure seems that, in some sectors, disagreement is offensive, and offense trumps substance.  (One might point to our current President in that regard, as well.) I kind of wonder if Debian

Re: Censorship in Debian

2019-01-06 Thread Scott Kitterman
On January 6, 2019 12:29:26 PM UTC, Wouter Verhelst wrote: >On Sat, Jan 05, 2019 at 04:24:32PM -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote: >> On Saturday, January 05, 2019 08:42:57 PM Sean Whitton wrote: >> > Hello Russ, Scott, >> > >> > On Fri 04 Jan 2019 at 11:44am -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: >> > > Scott

Re: Censorship in Debian

2019-01-06 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello, On Sat 05 Jan 2019 at 04:24pm -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote: > I think that's pretty close to it. Cool. > My bottom line is that today is a very divisive time in the world with many > forces trying to drive wedges between groups and force people into one camp or > another and then 'hate'

Re: Censorship in Debian

2019-01-06 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sat, Jan 05, 2019 at 04:24:32PM -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote: > On Saturday, January 05, 2019 08:42:57 PM Sean Whitton wrote: > > Hello Russ, Scott, > > > > On Fri 04 Jan 2019 at 11:44am -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > > > Scott Kitterman writes: > > >> I am concerned about Debian becoming over-p

Re: Censorship in Debian

2019-01-06 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Jan 04, 2019 at 12:04:55PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: [...] > maybe I should also consider > staying a bit more quiet. I don't have to; I can just speak my mind > anyway, but when I do, there's a higher than normal chance I might need to > apologize afterwards. Well, maybe not in your cas