On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 04:51:39PM -0500, G. Branden Robinson wrote:
> I keep trying to make the point that if people would just quote the
> specific darned fortunes that they have a problem with, we could focus
> this discussion immensely.
> But no one has, as yet, in either of these threads as
[self-follow-up]
It occurred to me that I need to correct and clarify a couple of points.
I'll try to be brief about it, at least relative to my own mean email
length, if not the project's.
At 2023-08-21T16:51:42-0500, G. Branden Robinson wrote:
[...]
> When we went around the block on this issue
[It took me so long to write this that responses from Russ and Steve L.
have since come through. I find myself in concord with both messages.]
At 2023-08-21T19:02:27+, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 05:32:22PM +, Jeremy Stanley wrote:
> > On 2023-08-21 20:16:22 +0300 (
Hi,
> As an aside, unless something has changed very recently, GH does not
> give you a way to disable PRs (issues yes but not PRs).
>
> If that has suddenly become possible, I have around a thousand
> projects I help maintain upstream on a non-GitHub (open source) code
> forge and would love to
Jeremy Stanley writes:
> Removing a package from the archive purely on the grounds that it
> contains objectionable text, if such is the reason for not distributing
> it, is making a value judgement of that text. The concerns that have
> been raised so far for objecting to the content of the pack
On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 07:02:27PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
>
> OK. With respect to Branden, Sam, Rodrigo Sanchez and Wouter - this isn't
> *just* a free speech matter and Debian isn't particularly censoring content.
>
I don't view the proposed removal of fortunes-off as censorship. Rather
On 2023-08-21 11:43:04 -0700 (-0700), Steve Langasek wrote:
[...]
> Don't you think it's a bit hyperbolic to equate "not distributing
> a text in our archive" to "book burning"?
Removing a package from the archive purely on the grounds that it
contains objectionable text, if such is the reason for
Subject: Re: Questionable Package Present in Debian: fortune-mod
On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 05:32:22PM +, Jeremy Stanley wrote:
> On 2023-08-21 20:16:22 +0300 (+0300), Dmitry Baryshkov wrote:
> [...]
> > According to Debian's CoC we use non-offensive ways to communicate
> > within the project, so
On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 05:32:22PM +, Jeremy Stanley wrote:
> On 2023-08-21 20:16:22 +0300 (+0300), Dmitry Baryshkov wrote:
> [...]
> > According to Debian's CoC we use non-offensive ways to communicate
> > within the project, so that everybody is welcome to speak and
> > contribute. But we sho
On 2023-08-21 20:16:22 +0300 (+0300), Dmitry Baryshkov wrote:
[...]
> According to Debian's CoC we use non-offensive ways to communicate
> within the project, so that everybody is welcome to speak and
> contribute. But we should not censor software. If there is a
> misogynistic comment in GNU HURD
Hi,
On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 09:48:26AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Dominik George writes:
>
> > For the GitHub case, the problematic terms would be that in order to
> > register for a GitHub account, users must be at least 13 or 16 years old
> > (depending on the jurisdiction) ant must not live
On 2023-08-21 17:00:04 +0200 (+0200), Dominik George wrote:
[...]
> A concrete implementation for GitHub repositories would be to
> disable issues and PRs
[...]
As an aside, unless something has changed very recently, GH does not
give you a way to disable PRs (issues yes but not PRs).
If that has
On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 at 00:52, Dominik George wrote:
>
> > So, let's at least be consistent.
>
> Totally agree with that.
>
> Debian is not a collection of harmful content, it is an operating system.
>
> But, unfortunately, there are too many people in the project who think, in
> the name of "free
Hi Wouter,
I think that you and I are actually in agreement.
On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 06:06:34PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 19, 2023 at 02:28:22PM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> > On Sat, Aug 19, 2023 at 07:11:11PM +0200, Dominik George wrote:
> > > >The mission you have chose
Dominik George writes:
> For the GitHub case, the problematic terms would be that in order to
> register for a GitHub account, users must be at least 13 or 16 years old
> (depending on the jurisdiction) ant must not live in a country under US
> embargoes.
This implies that Salsa is happy to crea
On Sat, Aug 19, 2023 at 02:28:22PM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 19, 2023 at 07:11:11PM +0200, Dominik George wrote:
> > >The mission you have chosen for yourself, then, is to identify all those
> > >things in the Debian distribution that are not constitutive of an
> > >operating s
Heisann,
[ for reference, the general discussion was held in 2019 already, in a slightly
]
[ too big context [3].
]
as many of you will know, I am heavily involved in tearing down obstacles
in the way of contributing to free and open sour
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