On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 10:07:51PM +, Stephen Gran wrote:
> This one time, at band camp, Chris Waters said:
> > I am also offended at the suggestion that ranking FD highly means you
> > can't accept compromise.
> I'm sorry if you feel offended, but that's exac
On Sat, Jan 03, 2009 at 05:27:26PM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote:
> On Sat, 03 Jan 2009, Chris Waters wrote:
> > On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 09:17:28AM +1100, Ben Finney wrote:
> > > (Don has, after subsequent argument, modified this to “… that
> > > you don't plan on
ion, and, as
far as you're concerned, the matter is settled.
The flip side of this is that people can be (I know I can be)
reluctant to vote "further discussion", because it feels like you're
voting "no, just no". So, if it's harder to add options, people
a compromise you'd be willing to accept that you
think is _far_ better than anything _else_ that's been proposed?
I think the best solution is simply to say, "don't propose (or second)
something you're not willing to live with."
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-wide consensus on the
> best course of action.
That sounds like a wonderful goal in a perfect world and absolutely
_terrifying_ in the real world we actually live in! If this were an
ideal world, and we were all perfectly logical machines, we wouldn't
need to vote because the "idea
he too-often-neglected subjunctive
mood. (Not that we're drifting off-topic or anything.) :)
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Linux) in the production of some movie. Or that something else will
come along with a strong connection to Debian and offer itself as an
obvious source for names. But whatever we choose as our next source
should have at least *some* connection to Debian.
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ntu?
I don't know exactly what he had in mind, but we've had DDs working
for Red hat, Suse, Prodigy, Ubuntu, and doubtless many others that I'm
forgetting. Of course, one of the nice things about free software is
that classes two and three are not disjunct sets. In fact, they ha
by whom. (And such an audit would be illegal
and unethical in any country I know of, and might not yield the
relevant details in any case.)
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On Tue, Oct 03, 2006 at 01:27:01PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> I would like to propose a name: Debian WaterBuffalo
I thought we already agreed on "IceWeasel". :)
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time-wasters. :)
All proposals must be uploaded to a machine that has its input
throttled to one byte per second, and which stops to demand a password
every five minutes, for example. No one would bother with that until
they were sure they had everything _just right_. :)
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interfaces when they want help and information. It means we should
provide them help and information when they want help and information.
Anyway, I'm not opposed to the idea of a website redesign. But when
people say, "how can we make it look better" rather than "
;s pretty much the bottom line, so I support both projects.
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a business for our brand to be a valuable part
of! If we overcome some of our pride, and work with Ubuntu, perhaps
we can make it easier for the next fork (and yes, I'm sure there will
be one) to remain obviously a part of the Debian family.
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e as relevant as XFree86.
I am the official dictator of everyone who is willing to obey my every
whim! It's a wonderful power that works perfectly as long as I never
exercise it! :)
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n project. The d-i project controls his SVN access; the Debian
project controls the mailing lists. The d-i project cannot "clip" his
access to Debian lists, and the Debian project cannot add or remove
his d-i commit access.
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On Wed, Jun 21, 2006 at 10:06:02AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 20, 2006 at 02:01:47PM -0700, Chris Waters wrote:
> > Frankly, as someone who is looking into setting up a support team for
> > some debian packages, I am appalled at the notion that the DPL can
> >
cooperate!
Neither AJ, nor the Tech Ctte., nor even the whole project through a
GR has the power to make Sven a member of the d-i team unless the d-i
team is willing to have Sven as a member.
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On Tue, Jun 20, 2006 at 05:55:42PM -0700, Adam McKenna wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 20, 2006 at 05:09:10PM -0700, Chris Waters wrote:
> > It doesn't matter! The DPL has no authority in the matter!
> He seems to think he does. At least, he has authority to stop abuse
> of the mailin
On Tue, Jun 20, 2006 at 02:41:46PM -0700, Adam McKenna wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 20, 2006 at 02:01:47PM -0700, Chris Waters wrote:
> > Such orders would be both unreasonable and unenforcable! (Worst case,
> > the d-i maintainers could pick up and move their repository to a
> >
DPL
to do is, IMO, quite outside the scope of the DPL's authority!
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> are part of versions, releases or distributions. 8-)
The word "section" already has an assigned meaning in Debian; each
package has its assigned section defined in its control file,
i.e. admin, editors, games, libs, mail, etc.
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source code, then that source
code should be properly available under a DFSG license for the program
to be considered DFSG-compliant. Most binary blobs I've seen in
drivers are large enough that I would refuse to believe they were
coded by hand in binary.
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ave never felt the urge to install a more
sophisticated vi. I know nothing about vim-tiny, though, so I'm not
really qualified to vote. My tendency would be to vote for whichever
is the smallest, as long as both are actually full implementations of
the vi spec.
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and licensed by Debian itself.
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And we have workarounds (don't use KDE, don't use KDE's
screensaver). What more do you want from us? Simply voicing
complaints about the situation does not move us forward.
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t. Linux support is a
completely free market, open to everyone from huge international
companies to private consultants. Limitations such as you describe
are more common to the larger, more generic support organizations.
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y're saying isn't important enough.
Why *should* we create a way to shove trivia at every DD, whether that
DD wants to be bothered with trivia or not?
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Nevertheless, I'm taking advantage of
your permission to CC this to -project and set followups.
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to list them because
they're too big, and have a presence in too many places?
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simply check how many women is involved in
> Debian project ;)
Or, at least, how many people in the project are willing to claim to
be women. :)
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ive -
using "he" - also makes people uncomfortable (as we see from the
current debate). So there's really no way to win here.
Now, I try to stick with "he" in my formal writing, but generally use
"they" in my informal writings. As a project, though, I think we
s
evelopers), who should probably be contacted directly.
The Debian project itself provides advertising opportunities through
its mailing lists and bug tracking system, though, so one could argue
that there is ample precedent. :)
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hould run it by the lawyers before taking any such
action, and even if they say it's ok (and won't jeopardize SPI's
non-profit status), I would still be very reluctant to take such a
step. It seems like a bad precedent.
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ers who might have similar questions, a couple of places
you can search for local LUGs are:
http://www.linux.org/groups/
http://lugww.counter.li.org/groups.cms
The former has more listings (over 100 countries), but the latter
seems to be more up-to-date and better maintained.)
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me of the more common fears and paranoias.
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De La Mancha, you can find
more interesting windmills to tilt against?
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;t think we
can really call it a logo any more. I think we have to start calling
it "a random glyph we just happen to have on all of our web pages".
But I don't really have a problem with that.
What I do have a problem with is the argument that the presence of an
actual logo (or other
o learn to "DEVELOPE" and or test or "contribute" to
> the developement of Debian if I can while I learn about Lindows
You can find information about how to help the Debian project on our
web page at <http://www.debian.org/devel/join/>.
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stions like this soon, and I do
think we should move forward. I also suspect that we're already darn
close, and that it's going to prove to mostly be a matter of dotting
'i's and crossing 't's. Maybe I'm just an optimist -- we'll see.
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upport _most_ of the LSB. (The parts
that are easy, make sense, and that people have needed or wanted
enough to implement so far.) So, chances are high that any parts of
the LSB you care about are already supported, and if you're not sure
about some specific details, you can always ask.
priate person to ask for more
details might be the maintainer of the lsb package.
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portant than they are. Which in turn, could
encourage people to "play politics", which is something I think we
should actively discourage. There's enough of that already. :)
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! A new l33t cabal! :P
Oh no, the duly elected DPL made a simple, straightforward decision.
It must be an evil plot! :D
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;s already a Debian wiki at
wiki.debian.net. I think that's probably a more appropriate place for
Debian-specific HOWTOs and whatnot than wikipedia, which, as I
understand it, is a general-purpose wiki, intended to have overviews
of things (like an encylopedia), not detailed technical docs.
u're
just asking if we think it might be worthwhile to pitch this idea to
your school, then I'd say yes.
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ggy" was "wichert", and
I was told at the time that #dd was *not* restricted to developers.
In fact there was one rather controversial regular at the time who'd
been rejected as a maintainer.
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e usually for human consumption. So, those
aren't really valid excuses.
OTOH, I probably *could* think of some valid excuses if I tried, so
I'm not complaining, just being a technical nit-picking weenie. :-)
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-games.
Aside from that, I have no objections to the proposed list removal.
cheers
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On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 06:27:05PM +, Alexander Koch wrote:
> On Fri, 11 May 2001 10:49:20 -0700, Chris Waters wrote:
> > > I wanted to inquire on if Debian is going to include Win Modem support?
> > The question should really be: does anyone in the Debian project feel
&
ttom line: most WinModem drivers don't meet the DFSG, and so, will
never be in main, and thus, will never be on our boot system, which
means that you'll need some other net access mechanism just to
download the drivers in the first place.
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