Re: Bug#158533: project: qmail is installed on murphy

2002-08-28 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On 29 Aug 2002, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > FWIW, Mailman 2.1 will be able to VERP properly. MM is used on other > small installations like sf.net, python.org and apple.com, so I > think it should be able to scale. Yes, and for a good long time sf.net at least was not larger than us and had about

Re: Spam

2002-03-06 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Thu, 7 Mar 2002, Anthony Towns wrote: > The challenge/response should probably be the same sort of thing you get > for subscriptions. This'd allow people who send mail from an address And observation I've made is that the majority of true spam is sent to a large number of lists without using

Re: Withdrawal of the General Resolution about IRC

2001-11-14 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Branden Robinson wrote: > > * #debian-devel has always been a channel for Debian development. It > > never was a channel restricted to just Debian developers > This simply is not true, as I've said over and over again elsewhere. > Ask the people who were there years ago,

Re: [PROPOSAL] Full text of GPL must be included

2000-11-29 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Thu, 30 Nov 2000, Christian Surchi wrote: > > If a RedHat user runs wget http://http.us.debian.org/path/to/GPLed/deb, did > > Debian not distribute that file to the RedHat user? Just you know, to add some perspective here, If the same RedHat user sshs to my machine and copies /usr/bin/ls the

Re: Request for comments: use of project funds for hardware

2000-10-30 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 08:04:53PM -0500, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > > The PowerPC port is about to be without an unstable build daemon again. > > Insert random support here. I think this is a completely sensible use > of project funds. I agree, I've

Re: Fear the new maintainer process

2000-07-26 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On 26 Jul 2000, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > Dirk Eddelbuettel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 05:48:26PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > > And WHAT makes you think that a delay is a sign of "limited interest"? > > > > How else can a lack of reply be interpreted?

Re: Fear the new maintainer process

2000-07-26 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > I want to repeat: The applicant wants to help US. WE require the > cumbersome new maintainer procedure. So WE have the responsibility Uh, WE also have 500 other developers, the last thing we need is to actively persue people who have a limited inte

Req Fer Code: Mirrors list checker tool

2000-07-25 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
Hi all Our mirror list has grown somewhat out of proportion and there are probably lots of hooped/partial mirrors. Thus I would like to request that someone cookup a python/perl script to check this out. The basic operation would be to take the mirror list and probe each mirror to determine how

Re: An amendment (Re: Formal CFV: General Resolution to Abolish Non-Free)

2000-06-16 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
Nicely Said! On Fri, 16 Jun 2000, Brian Mays wrote: > Before everyone becomes huffy over my last statement, please let me > explain. Our definition of free (i.e., the DFSG) is arbitrary. It is > not some divine revelation, handed down from above and written in stone. > Mostly it is a compromi

Re: Some more reality..

2000-06-13 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On 13 Jun 2000, John Goerzen wrote: > > John has said that non-free has ceased to be useful based on the fact that > > he doesn't actually make use of it, and many others agreed with this > > assesement. So here is a slightly different perspective. > Jason, you are so badly distorting my posi

Re: General Resolution: Removing non-free

2000-06-11 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On 11 Jun 2000, Colin Walters wrote: > > "Marek" == Marek Habersack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I am curious, where do you get this idea? I have not read anything > like this in the Debian literature. > > The only thing I have read that comes close to saying this is point > four of the

Re: An ammendment (Re: Formal CFV: General Resolution to Abolish Non-Free)

2000-06-10 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Sun, 11 Jun 2000, Anthony Towns wrote: > todists/woody/ > main > add-on/ > contrib > non-free > experimental > orphaned > ipv6 >

Some more reality..

2000-06-10 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
John has said that non-free has ceased to be useful based on the fact that he doesn't actually make use of it, and many others agreed with this assesement. So here is a slightly different perspective. I have gone back and counted the number of packages in the non-free sections in debian, if Joh

Re: Formal CFV: General Resolution to Abolish Non-Free

2000-06-10 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On 10 Jun 2000, John Goerzen wrote: > Please. The dependency is already not meetable within Debian. You > mean, not meetable with files on ftp.debian.org. Which is really a > non-issue, as the files could just as easily be retrieved from > ftp.notdebian.org or whatever. So uh.. the default A

Re: Discussing the DMUP

2000-04-25 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On 24 Apr 2000, Philippe Troin wrote: > Of course, we have nothing better to do than playing the Debian > Democracy Game. This piece of "policy" is so often used that it > obviously need a rewrite. If this is how many people feel then I would like to simply have the language of the policies in t

Re: Incoming

2000-04-03 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Mon, 3 Apr 2000, Julian Gilbey wrote: > Like during the Perl transition period, or when a recent libstdc++ > broke apt, or when su stopped being able to su, or when What you are describing is a problem with the package life cycle, not the replication of incoming. Let me reiterate: DO NO

Re: Incoming

2000-04-03 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Mon, 3 Apr 2000, Mark Brown wrote: > Would it be possible for Incoming to be made avalible via FTP as well as > HTTP? Both can have problems with firewalls and forced proxying, but I don't think so, ftp is going to remain turned off on that machine. If you can't fetch things from the web, b

Re: Incoming

2000-04-01 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Sat, 1 Apr 2000, Craig Sanders wrote: > > *** DO NOT MIRROR THIS SITE *** > > > > I hope to dismantle the sites mirroring incoming in favor of direct > > access, it ultimately will use less bandwidth/cpu. > > this is bad. sometimes installing stuff from incoming is essential > because packag

Incoming

2000-04-01 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
The following URL will yeild the incoming directory on master, http://incoming.debian.org/ The purpose of this is to allow non-developers to fetch specific packages from incoming at the explicit prompting of debian developers. *** DO NOT MIRROR THIS SITE *** I hope to dismantle the sites mirro

Incoming

2000-03-20 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
In the process of enacting the policy change to disallow ftp, the question came up about incoming. It has been suggested that we make incoming available via a path like http://incoming.debian.org/incoming and most likely dismantle the incoming mirror network (all 4 of them :>). This would only b

Re: Echelon

2000-01-05 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Wed, 5 Jan 2000, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: > I'm not sure what you mean by "the various alternate locals" but > the standard rfc822 module (AddressList class) seems to do what you need. > > See: http://www.python.org/doc/current/lib/module-rfc822.html > > Or is it somehow deficient? It

VA.debian.org runs LDAP now

2000-01-05 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
Hi all, I spent the entire evening today converting VA to LDAP and cleaning out alot of cruft. In the process I had to renumber several of CVS repository group IDs, I hope this doesn't effect anything but if something goes funny, this might be why. There was some downtime on www user pages (~jgg

VA.debian.org has changed IP

2000-01-05 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
Hi, VA is in the process of changing their IP adresses around and today we switched va.debian.org to its new address of 198.186.203.20. It will still respond on the old adress for some time, but please change any hardcoded references to the new address now - in particular bind's configuration fil

Echelon

2000-01-03 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
Hi all, Some of you may recall I mentioned some time ago that I hoped to have a means of finding developers that may have left us, and today I put it online! The system is called Echelon (NSA calls theirs that, so can we!) and how it works is by passively monitoring all mailing list traffic and i

Re: Debian FreeBSD

1999-11-21 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, Joel Klecker wrote: > No you don't, a native FreeBSD port of glibc2 wouldn't have any need of > Linux system call emulation. > glibc is designed to be portable, the majority of its code is system > independant, system dependencies are in a hierarchial directory structure > (s

Re: Debian FreeBSD

1999-11-21 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Joey Hess wrote: > Clint Adams wrote: > > Why would you use an emulated binary when you can > > easily have a native one? > > Who said anything about emulated binaries? Port glibc to freebsd, and use it > natively. I would be inclined to say that any attempt to port Debian

Re: Proposed change to Debian constitution

1999-11-02 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Mon, 1 Nov 1999, Martin Schulze wrote: > Anthony Towns wrote: > > This doesn't do anything to address the real issue (getting > > new-maintainers back on its feet), and only seems to give people something > > to point to when whining about how everyone else isn't doing everything > > for them.

Re: Proposal: incremental release process (the package pool)

1999-10-28 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Thu, 28 Oct 1999, Joey Hess wrote: > Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > This makes me think about dropping the symlinks completely. > > > > So we can have a real, physical pool of any sort, and all distributions are > > simply a packages file with the relevant constellation. > > This makes it impos

Re: Proposal: incremental release process (the package pool)

1999-10-25 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Mon, 25 Oct 1999, Lalo Martins wrote: > Yes, but pool can have multiple versions of a same package. But how on earth is anyone supposed to know which version is the one they want? > Hmm. I actually meant to use apt's install-time dependency > check. It's smart enought to know when something

Re: Proposal: incremental release process (the package pool)

1999-10-25 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Sun, 24 Oct 1999, Lalo Martins wrote: > This proposal includes erradication of the "experimental" area, > because very few maintaiers use it, because it's "out of the > way" for people to download from it, and because it will be > redundant with the "pool" layer. Like Gregory said, experiment

Re: new release process (package pool) being proposed

1999-10-25 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
[Lame cross post to -announce removed, gah] > The ftpmasters do their work for the project. They exist > on behalf of the project. The project does not exist as result > of the ftpmasters, it's vice versa. However, the FTP masters are the resident experts in field of 'ftp archive mainti', igno