appreciated! Thanks!
Sincerely,
John Lee
Your FAQ do not address the following problem:
After successfully installing Debian 12 I am encountering a repeated and
important problem with installing software (packages) from third party
providers.
When using the Terminal prompter (sudo apt install) I am prompted: 'unable
to locate packa
rly if a package is
already in sid), but we have this one-time thing. I agree with Russ;
maybe it's needed, but it's high time we give it careful consideration
again.
John
>
> -Steve
>
> [1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2019/12/msg00188.html
laced on
>> people's contributions.
>
> Hi Scott, John, everybody,
>
> In the past I proposed a system of peer review to pre-screen the
> packages that are in the NEW queue.
>
> https://wiki.debian.org/CopyrightReview
>
> It never took off but maybe some process along t
On Wed, Dec 25 2019, Jonathan Carter wrote:
> On 2019/12/24 20:08, John Goerzen wrote:
>
>> But at the same time, I feel that the project as a whole isn't really
>> taking this problem very seriously.
>
> That is true, probably mostly because many people don't
On Tue, Dec 24 2019, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 24, 2019 10:51:04 AM EST John Goerzen wrote:
> ...
>> pygopherd was removed from testing. That makes sense. But also from
>> sid, hours after I replied to the bug about this explaining that I was
>> ac
On Tue, Dec 24 2019, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
> Le mardi 24 décembre 2019 à 09:51:04-0600, John Goerzen a écrit:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I mean this post as a challenge, but not as blame. I know many teams do
>> hard work that can be thankless, and my intent is not to blam
ture. I have been a Debian Developer for something like 23 years
and still am. The flamewars are regrettable and sad, but don't
represent a decline over where we were 23 years ago.
The bureaucratic silence, however, is different. It really has me
questioning whether contributing to Debian is still worth it.
John
[1] https://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html
Hi!
On 9/28/19 11:44 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> I'm posting here on behalf the Debian Ports team as we're seeking support
> to finance an important development task in gcc. In particular, I'm talking
> about the one-time job to modernize the m68k backend by po
Hi Richard!
On 9/29/19 11:26 PM, Richard Z wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 11:44:26AM +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
>
>> As m68k is the oldest port of both the Linux kernel and Debian after i386,
>> it would be a shame to see it go as there is still very good upst
On 9/30/19 4:53 AM, Paul Wise wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 1:14 AM John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
>
>> Having said that, I'm going to unsubscribe from this list now as I realize
>> that what we do in Debian Ports is still not considered useful many others,
>> so
t-can-be-kept-in-future-releases
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>> good idea. I only dislike using Debian funds to pay people for their
>> time. I think that crowdfunding the m68k GCC task could work.
>
> I absolutely agree with this.
>
> John, please let us know if you (or someone else) tries to do
his thread.
Having said that, I'm going to unsubscribe from this list now as I realize
that what we do in Debian Ports is still not considered useful many others,
so I think it's not possible to find an agreement.
Thanks,
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of significant new support, there is not
> sufficient interest in spending Debian funds on m68k gcc development.
I don't think we have heard enough voices yet to be able to answer that
question.
Adrian
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On 9/29/19 12:48 PM, Hector Oron wrote:
> Missatge de John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
> del dia dg., 29 de set. 2019 a les 12:20:
>
>> I communicated the issue to multiple mailing lists, so I assume the active
>> m68k people have received my mail. But I haven't heard back fro
Debian volunteers time and Debian resources.
> Debian does not get any share of that work.
If the work is being paid, it's not volunteers time. That doesn't make sense.
You could argue about Debian resources being used without paying Debian.
Adrian
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dishonest as
well when it asks "Are machines available to buy for the general public?"
while I don't think an IBM Z mainframe is available to buy for the general
public.
I don't think anyone outside banks, goverments and very large companies
can buy an IBM Z mainframe, yet Debia
gt; found myself being pretty unhappy that one time I had to do some of
> that for a native package, which would have had a very weird release
> history otherwise. :/
Not sure what the problem with LTS is. I thought companies pay for the
extra effort. I think it's a perfectly fine busin
On 9/29/19 3:14 AM, Paul Wise wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 5:44 PM John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
>
>> Since Debian is also supporting projects for a good cause using their funds,
>
> Do you have any examples of this? AFAIK we don't support development
> nor exte
> On Sep 28, 2019, at 7:57 PM, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
>
> ]] John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
>
>> I don’t know what “m-f-t” stands for in this context, sorry. I’m on
>> mobile at the moment though so my phone might be messing up
>> things. Sorry for that.
>
>
> On Sep 28, 2019, at 7:19 PM, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
>
>
> Please respect m-f-t, as is the custom on Debian lists?
I don’t know what “m-f-t” stands for in this context, sorry. I’m on mobile at
the moment though so my phone might be messing up things. Sorry for that.
&g
> On Sep 28, 2019, at 6:19 PM, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
>>
>> No, it just means that the current gcc maintainer [1] for m68k backend hasn't
>> worked on this particular task yet because his employer wouldn't pay for
>> this particular work. Unlike the other ports like amd64, ppc64el, arm*
>> and
that's ok.
There is a very active community around the port so there are people
using it, although it's not for commercial purposes, of course.
Thanks,
Adrian
> [1] https://github.com/gcc-mirror/gcc/blob/master/MAINTAINERS#L80
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> [2] https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=91851
> [3]
> https://www.bountysource.com/issues/80706251-m68k-convert-the-backend-to-mode_cc-so-it-can-be-kept-in-future-releases
> [4] https://lkml.org/lkml/2019/9/24/993
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On Tue, Jul 02 2019, Jonathan Carter wrote:
> On 2019/07/02 11:26, Marc Haber wrote:
>> I do feel significantly less welcome in Debian since diversity /
>> antiharassment / policitcal correctnes / CoC came around the corner.
>
> How so regarding diversity/antiharassment/CoC? They do nothing to
> t
I don't know if many packages have them, but there is a privacy:: debtag that
for potential privacy concerns and other anti-features. Synaptic should be able
to show them.
On May 21, 2019 9:16:53 AM EDT, npdflr wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Would you recommend me or debian users to go through privacy policy f
I would like info on how to install Debian on imac, (24-inch, Early 2009).
mailto:retar...@linuxmail.org>>
or
mailto:j...@cahammack.com>>
download the package suitable for this. Could you confirm which of
the many downloads match my criteria? Thank you so much!!! You do a
wonderful job!
John Klinvex
Electrical Engineer
profjo...@gmail.com
Hi my grandson downloaded your product and now can’t get it back to normal use
can you help me please. thanking you mr j borley
on
>
>
>
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Hello,
Your email is highly insensitive due to impeccable timing.
At the present moment Debian project mourns the passing of Ian
Murdock. https://bits.debian.org/2015/12/mourning-ian-murdock.html
A lot of Debian Developers and the wider Debian community have great
respect for the amazing things
Hi, I was thinking about making some hats with the debian logo on them, and
selling them to some friends, and possibly putting them on my website for
sale. I found this page https://www.debian.org/logos/#open-use and the
open-use logo looked right for me. I also saw that it linked to the GNU
lice
Hey, just for curiosity, do you guys read all the source code before make it
available on repos?
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Downloading and installation of 8 CDs and 3 DVDs for just one debian
GNU/Linux, its too heavy. Rewrite this Operating System in C language and
make it smaller than one GB.
Just distribute one ISO file instead of so many torrents and make it easy
for down-loaders. Thanks.
John Smith
Downloading and installation of 8 CDs and 3 DVDs for just one debian
GNU/Linux, its too heavy. Rewrite this Operating System in C language and
make it smaller than one GB. Thanks.
John Smith
o I think there will be activity again.
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ome back majority No. I
suspect the same would be true if we used "libre." The problem we face
isn't a simple language one; it's that in more than one culture,
commercial activity in the sense of selling "someone else's" work is not
expected as a right. The
We have a Silicon Mechanics Server with Debian OS that we are shipping to
Brazil for a climate experiment. Do you have an Export Control Classification
Number (ECCN) for your OS so we can get export documents issued by our company.
Thanks-John
Dear folks,
I wise man once told me, years ago, that he had unsubscribed from
debian-devel because of all the noise. I had thought that rather odd at
the time, but have come to appreciate it since.
Like many, I have my opinion in the init system (my choice: sysvinit -
it ain't broke, and I alrea
Ben Hutchings writes:
> On Fri, 2011-06-03 at 11:42 -0400, John Sullivan wrote:
>> Thomas Goirand writes:
>>
>> > The point is to have a system so that manufacturers can write "this
>> > system supports Debian". If they don't want to do the work
generated now at http://h-node.com. The FSF is
also consolidating its former compatible hardware database there. Since
h-node lists hardware that works without proprietary drivers or
proprietary firmware, it should be a good fit for Debian main from
Squeeze on.
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Hi:
I have corrupted my apache2 server and deleted a key directory -
/etc/apache2. Nothing I do with dpkg or apt-get seems to put this directory
back. How do I re-install apache2?
ta to the non-Debian server it's on.
To me, this is a point where we go, "life sucks, but at some point we
take it and move on because images in feeds are nice to have."
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The MIPS port of gNewSense (used on the Lemote netbook for example) is
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Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) wrote:
>
> I was wondering if maybe people would be interested in
> microplanet.debian.org ?
moon.debian.org
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I support this specific poll.
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t suggests getting non-free software from there.
>
> I'm very curious what part of the website or Debian would be doing this for
> years, but I guess someone could ask Richard.
I haven't been following this thread super-close, so sorry if I missed
someone already throwing this
ware
non-free
It would be nice if non-free was a simple umbrella for non-free-*.
Possibly non-free/documentation and non-free/firmware?
While the decision of what is firmware, documentation, or other should
be policy-guided, it would be left to the developer to decide which
as also a vote in 2004 on a different resolution:
http://www.debian.org/vote/2004/vote_002
I guess this means that it's about time for another once-every-4-years
vote :-)
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I think. Now we are talking flash.
There's already a lot of stuff people use over at
debian-multimedia.org and it's not stopping people from getting to
it. Nor should it. A simple line in a config file and you've got
access to flash, even if it's on suspiciousserver.ru.
Hi;
Does Debian have an ECCN number for exporting? I am trying to get one
for the OS itself.
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the project.
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lon or anyone else. Frankly that was a huge
log, I skimmed it, and didn't find the interesting bits. And I suspect
vorlon based the kickban on other criteria.
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On Fri December 14 2007 8:00:10 am Martin Schulze wrote:
> The "official" way for this would be to use the bsmtp service on gluck.
> Having a private UUCP installation on master is... interesting.
Where can we find documentation on this bsmtp service?
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for the *non-Debian* posts. What somebody's apartment
in Japan looks like, what the trip to Berlin was like, etc. Maybe what
their Debian development area looks like...
It's good to get to know our fellow developers as whole people, where Debian
is part -- but not all -- of their liv
e okay.
NB: I have not followed the Sven saga, though I have sampled a bit at
some of the threads.
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meone other than Bruce maintained the keyring and saw the
new-maint mail. So I guess the precise date at which I started to be
able to upload packages, via chiark, is unknown but was likely in Dec
1996 or Jan 1997.
This has been interesting.
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> John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I am trying to find out exactly when I joined Debian.
> [...]
> > 1) The date of my first upload
>
> Oldest signature block claiming you to be a DD s
earch some lists for my name over a specific time period.
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ey is allocated if debian recieves investment.
Regards,
Bart Martens
John.
endent project however aimed for the Debian system. Any
suggestions would be great.
Thanks.
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ow
or as a initial investment. It would then be up to the project leader to
encourage the investor to make the payment as an initial investment.
Thanks.
John
r.
- The would be the projects leaders responsibility to share the
contribution accordingly.
- The project is only completed so long its agreed upon by the
investor and the project leader.
So those are the ideas, now flame me.
John.
ow can we trust a developer who acts in a responsible way only when
convenient to him personally?
One other comment. You said one time that not one single other person
questioned the actions of the "expulsers". That is quite clearly not
true. But if it were, wouldn't that suggest t
On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 11:20:00PM +0100, Piotr Dziubinski wrote:
> I'm very irritated and disappointed with your policy! Why?
>
> I've used various Linux distributions for 8 years. I've been using Debian
> for the last 6 months, but today I changed my mind!
>
> After updating Firefox in Debian I
worked flawlessly. It took about 1.5 hours to connect to the
internet and download package software but it was worth it. I will test this
for a month and if all works well I will install on all 5 computers.
Kudos’ to Debian, and thank you for your hard work and
service.
John Kish
On Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 10:54:38PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> > Surely we have passed this point a month or two ago. We are wasting
> > everyone's time.
> >
> > Sven, please just live and let live.
>
> John, what do you think this is all about ? I would
only that).
There has to be some time where we all let bygones be bygones.
Surely we have passed this point a month or two ago. We are wasting
everyone's time.
Sven, please just live and let live.
I don't want to see a single piece of mail about the d-i team unless it
relates to the Debian installer itself.
-- John
and yes, it seemed that they were
inching closer towards agreement.)
Let's give peace a chance[2].
[1]
http://changelog.complete.org/posts/555-We-need-to-follow-the-Amish-example.html
[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Give_Peace_a_Chance
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>
> And when you see my SVN repository and sources,
> you'll find how hard to use newer Debian kernel on current
> Sarge installer, John.
>
> If new kernel has perfect compatibilities with older kernel
> (such as using de
On Sat, Aug 26, 2006 at 08:43:53AM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote:
> John Goerzen wrote:
> > Examples of things that should happen in stable, but haven't been
> > happening reliably:
> >
> > * Kernel updates with more broad hardware support
>
> This requires
Hello,
The Debian stable distribution has been a thorn in our side for a long
time. We tend to go a long time between releases, which means that
stable grows less and less useful as time goes on. We also have a
strict policy on what is allowed into stable.
This policy has many merits, especiall
an NMU. After all, it's one less
thing I have to do to it, right?
I do get extremely irritated when someone NMUs my package and breaks
it and disappears. But that's only happened a couple of times to me.
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tuff discussed there actually gets out
> to everyone else when it should.
That is an *excellent* suggestion, and would surely help mutual
understanding between Debian and SPI.
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I'd say you could probably count this in weeks, if not days.
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proper documents and records are retained, and that proper documents are
filed with the government.
I think SPI's less-than-perfect track record on these things is well
known, as is the fact that SPI has been really improving on all this --
but still needs to improve more.
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On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 04:35:31PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 09:23:41AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote:
> > I don't see what that has to do with the simple fact of what the vote
> > was about and how it turned out.
>
> So, you think that the vote
On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 03:57:01PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 08:35:02AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote:
> > That's not correct. The project simply voted not to removed it at that
> > time, by defeating the GR. There was no affirmative vote to keep
>
s, but we are
> also not being honest with ourselves and our users, as this is in
> contradiction with the spirit of the social contract, even if some like to
> play with words.
I agree with that.
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> Would people want it?
Some might.
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time. That's one of the reasons I prefer to avoid such things.
> I couldn't find the source code to their server, either.
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Careful. While I agree that all the changes you suggest are desireable, I
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On Mon, Oct 24, 2005 at 11:42:29AM -0700, Patrick Mccall wrote:
> I downloaded the first debian cd to install the os and
> try it out. After going through the install process
> and rebooting with no errors I get a dos-like system..
> Is this all debain is?? I didnt even get a gui!!!.
No, it's not.
Hi, how are you today? I'm just doing some
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onesia I will, of
course, do nothing regardless of the presence or absence of a choice of
venue clause in my license: suing him in the US would be a complete waste
of time and I have no money for international ventures.
> ...Or get him extradited somehow.
Extradition has nothing to do with civi
Henning Makholm writes:
> A bicycle trip to my local courthouse: DKK 2, including write-offs on the
> bicycle. A trip to some court in America: Tens of thousands of DKKs.
If I were to sue you for infringing the copyright on my GPL software I
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you and/or would like to know more. I look forward to hearing from you
soon. If this is something you are not currently interested in I want to
thank you for your time and to keep me in mind for the future.
Kind Regards,
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> ... or just stick to the original "DCC" as "Debian Commercial Consortium".
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