On Fri, 8 Jul 2011 09:17:09 +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
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> On Tue, Jul 05, 2011 at 12:48:17PM +0100, Philip Hands wrote:
> > > > That's the kind of very simple list that I was hoping to build. But the
> > > > list isn't the final goal. The goal is to *fix* issue
On Tue, Jul 05, 2011 at 12:48:17PM +0100, Philip Hands wrote:
> > > That's the kind of very simple list that I was hoping to build. But the
> > > list isn't the final goal. The goal is to *fix* issues when we see them,
> > > like it happened for the X8STi-F in Debian 5.04.
> >
> > In that case, ar
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 1:48 PM, Philip Hands wrote:
> That seems like a good idea -- how about if we encouraged willing hardware
> manufacturers to maintain a pseudo package type thing, perhaps per
> device, although it would be good to have some sort of wild-card so that
> one could report a bug
On Sat, 4 Jun 2011 14:23:56 +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote:
>
> > That's the kind of very simple list that I was hoping to build. But the
> > list isn't the final goal. The goal is to *fix* issues when we see them,
> > like it happened for the X8S
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> To advance on this, we need someone leading the initiative and, as step
> 0, add all the missing wrapping (live cd, submission interface, etc.).
> Collaborative test suite and the like can be added later, once the
> submission interface
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 10:12:35PM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 09:33:17AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> > On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 01:02:23PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> > > > We talked about the possibility to have their hardware being
> > > > certified as compatible
Hi,
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 09:33:17AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 01:02:23PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> > > We talked about the possibility to have their hardware being
> > > certified as compatible with Debian, and have them advertize about
> > > it on their we
On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 01:02:23PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> > We talked about the possibility to have their hardware being
> > certified as compatible with Debian, and have them advertize about
> > it on their website product pages.
> >
> > The plan would be to test the hardware (probably wit
Hi Ben!
On Sat, 04 Jun 2011, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > Debian main uses the same standard as h-node.
>
> Yes. Debian users don't.
Indeed. At least not in the datacenter, where > 90% of the GOOD servers
(i.e. the ones whose firmware is actually tested to interoperate with Linux,
firmware updates
level.
Nonetheless---and replying to an argument raised further down in the
thread---Debian is constitutionally bound to be fully Free. So if we are
ever going to have *the* debian hardware certification website, that
website should list by default hardware compatible with Debian
(i.e. main). That i
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> That's the kind of very simple list that I was hoping to build. But the
> list isn't the final goal. The goal is to *fix* issues when we see them,
> like it happened for the X8STi-F in Debian 5.04.
In that case, are you sure that bugs.debi
On 06/04/2011 06:28 AM, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-06-03 at 11:42 -0400, John Sullivan wrote:
>> Thomas Goirand writes:
>>
>>> The point is to have a system so that manufacturers can write "this
>>> system supports Debian". If they don't want to do the work, we could,
>>> and help each ot
On Fri, 2011-06-03 at 23:36 -0400, John Sullivan wrote:
> Ben Hutchings writes:
>
> > On Fri, 2011-06-03 at 11:42 -0400, John Sullivan wrote:
> >> Thomas Goirand writes:
> >>
> >> > The point is to have a system so that manufacturers can write "this
> >> > system supports Debian". If they don't
Ben Hutchings writes:
> On Fri, 2011-06-03 at 11:42 -0400, John Sullivan wrote:
>> Thomas Goirand writes:
>>
>> > The point is to have a system so that manufacturers can write "this
>> > system supports Debian". If they don't want to do the work, we could,
>> > and help each other by having a l
Hi,
2011/6/3 John Sullivan :
> Thomas Goirand writes:
>> The point is to have a system so that manufacturers can write "this
>> system supports Debian".
They can do that if they like.
>> If they don't want to do the work, we could,
>> and help each other by having a list of hardware that is kn
On Fri, 2011-06-03 at 11:42 -0400, John Sullivan wrote:
> Thomas Goirand writes:
>
> > The point is to have a system so that manufacturers can write "this
> > system supports Debian". If they don't want to do the work, we could,
> > and help each other by having a list of hardware that is known t
Thomas Goirand writes:
> The point is to have a system so that manufacturers can write "this
> system supports Debian". If they don't want to do the work, we could,
> and help each other by having a list of hardware that is known to work
> with Debian, and a list of hardware with issues. If they
On 05/22/2011 10:00 PM, Bastian Blank wrote:
> On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 01:02:23PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
>> And here's my follow-up with some of the answers:
>> On 05/21/2011 08:00 PM, Bastian Blank wrote:
>
> You realize that you just leaked d-private without asking first?
Gosh, no I didn'
On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 01:02:23PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> And here's my follow-up with some of the answers:
> On 05/21/2011 08:00 PM, Bastian Blank wrote:
You realize that you just leaked d-private without asking first?
> > They can already declare Debian a supported system. They have to
[Thomas Goirand]
> The plan would be to test the hardware (probably with a live CD
> using a KVM over IP). If it doesn't work, see what driver isn't
> present, and if the backported kernel has the fix. If it does, in
> some cases, we could add a patch in a Debian point release, if it's
> not too i
Hi,
I started a thread on debian-private, because I didn't know where to
post. So there's already a (very short) discussion that started. Here's
my original message:
On 05/21/2011 07:11 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> I didn't know where to post, so I'm posting here. Let me know where I
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