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On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 10:37:23AM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> I'd put it even more bluntly. The current problem is that NM is too
> slow, too sluggish, too boring. Being a DD requires a motivation that I
> wouldn't even dare to ask from the best employees in my company, and god
> know
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 10:10:29PM +, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
>
> > Developer Status
> >
>
> And I should probably have written this inside the mail itself, but the
> most obvious things are those you forget.
>
> This was initially written by me,
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 08:48:51AM +, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le jeudi 23 octobre 2008 à 10:37 +0200, Pierre Habouzit a écrit :
> > So when the
> > *constitution* gives him the right to do what he just did (yeah, sadly
> > he can and we have to be 2:1 to overrule that yeah), it's completely
>
Le jeudi 23 octobre 2008 à 10:37 +0200, Pierre Habouzit a écrit :
> So when the
> *constitution* gives him the right to do what he just did (yeah, sadly
> he can and we have to be 2:1 to overrule that yeah), it's completely
> against the nature of Debian, and the spirit of the constitution.
Only o
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 07:47:10AM +, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le jeudi 23 octobre 2008 à 08:59 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum a écrit :
> > > Debian Contributor
> > > --
> > > Debian Maintainer
> > > -
> > > Debian Member
> > > -
> > > Debian Developer
> > >
Le Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 10:20:55AM +0200, Joerg Jaspert a écrit :
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> - a new policy to get implemented some time soon, with whatever
>sensible changes might come out of this thread
Joerg, this means that if we want to have a word to say about how the
Debian project defines its members, we h
Le jeudi 23 octobre 2008 à 10:20 +0200, Joerg Jaspert a écrit :
> It is
> - a start of the discussion, using d-d-a on purpose to reach
>everyone in something that more or less touches all of us, and
> - a new policy to get implemented some time soon, with whatever
>sensible changes might
also sprach Joerg Jaspert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008.10.22.2333 +0200]:
> Now let us describe the way the account status is meant to be handled
> in future.
Finally!
http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2005/02/msg00079.html
It's the latest message I could find. I am sure I have been harping
on
>> while keeping the spirit of easing entry into Debian for newcomers.
>> At the same time we add a separate track for less-technical
>> contributors.
> Is it a start of a discussion? A new policy?
Both. :)
It is
- a start of the discussion, using d-d-a on purpose to reach
everyone in s
Joerg Jaspert wrote:
Developer Status
This was initially written by me, then discussed within DAM (so take
us two for we) and then discussed with DSA, FTPMaster,
Keyring-Maint, Secretary, FrontDesk and the DPL.
Reading the proposal and the people involved, I think the
First of all, a suggestion from me. I would like to change names a bit,
so there are names for some groups as well. Here's my proposal:
- Debian Developing Contributor (DDC) = what's currently called DM
- Debian Non-Developing Contributor (DNDC) = what's called DC in the
proposal.
- Debian Con
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 08:59:54AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> > Debian is about developing a free operating system, but there's more
> > in an operating system than just software and packages. If we want
> > translators, documentation writers, artists, free software advocates,
> > et al. to g
On Wed Oct 22 23:33, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> Developer Status
>
I fully support this proposal (and have in fact suggested similar things
in the past). I definitely think that a process which involves a more
gradual granting of privileges and more fine-grained access cont
Le jeudi 23 octobre 2008 à 08:59 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum a écrit :
> > Debian Contributor
> > --
> > Debian Maintainer
> > -
> > Debian Member
> > -
> > Debian Developer
> >
>
> I really liked the fact that it was possible to explain Debia
On 22/10/08 at 22:51 +, Clint Adams wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 12:10:29AM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> > This was initially written by me, then discussed within DAM (so take
> > us two for we) and then discussed with DSA, FTPMaster,
> > Keyring-Maint, Secretary, FrontDesk and the DPL.
>
On 22/10/08 at 23:33 +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> Developer Status
>
Like others, I'm uncomfortable with the way this is being announced.
Also, I really want to thank you for starting this discussion now.
Having been personally involved in trying to delay the
helps them for the next step.
They should be doing this on their own, and not force an arbitrary limit on
them. What if they did this _before_ applying for DD/DME/DM/DC status?
> - leaves everyone the option to stay DC or DM, if they do not want/need
>more rights.
>
>
> Af
On Wednesday 22 October 2008, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
[...]
>
> The second way is the technical one:
>
> Debian Maintainer
> -
> A DM has the same strong relation with Debian a DC has, but additionally
> wants to maintain a limited set of packages without the help of a sponsor.
>
> A D
Le Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 11:33:28PM +0200, Joerg Jaspert a écrit :
>
> We plan to integrate DM more closely into the NM process/system
> while keeping the spirit of easing entry into Debian for newcomers.
> At the same time we add a separate track for less-technical
> contributors.
Hi Joer
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 7:33 PM, Joerg Jaspert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We plan to integrate DM more closely into the NM process/system
> while keeping the spirit of easing entry into Debian for newcomers.
> At the same time we add a separate track for less-technical
> contributors.
I hav
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 12:10:29AM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> This was initially written by me, then discussed within DAM (so take
> us two for we) and then discussed with DSA, FTPMaster,
> Keyring-Maint, Secretary, FrontDesk and the DPL.
I am disappointed in all of these people.
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> Developer Status
>
And I should probably have written this inside the mail itself, but the
most obvious things are those you forget.
This was initially written by me, then discussed within DAM (so take
us two for we) and then discussed with DSA, FTPMaster,
Keyring
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 11:33:28PM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> Developer Status
>
>
> Summary of this post
>
> Discussions in the past have made it clear that the current
> definition of "Debian Developer" (AKA someone wh
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