Debian Linux for smartphones [WAS Re: (No Subject)]

2024-07-12 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 04:17:21PM +, Mike wrote: > Hi. > > Is there any debian linux for smartphones? > If yes, how to install it? Hi Mike, The list you've posted to is the main list for the whole of the Debian project. I suggest follow up to the Debian-user mailing lis

Swap partition default size [WAS Re: Problem With Hard Disk Partitioning In Debian Linux 12.x]

2024-07-07 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
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Problem With Hard Disk Partitioning In Debian Linux 12.x

2024-07-07 Thread Saurav Sarkar
, Saurav SarkarA Debian Linux User

Re: Working for Linux/Debian

2021-11-23 Thread Agata Erminia Pennisi
"To not practice what you preach" is a form of hypocrisy, that doesn't belong to me. You're welcome. Il mar 23 nov 2021, 21:33 Jonas Smedegaard ha scritto: > Quoting Agata Erminia Pennisi (2021-11-23 21:04:59) > > I'm sorry for you, next time read all messages before replying or > > quoting. Tha

Re: Working for Linux/Debian

2021-11-23 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Agata Erminia Pennisi (2021-11-23 21:04:59) > I'm sorry for you, next time read all messages before replying or > quoting. That's all. In fact that was not all, only one part of my reply, but... oh well. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 408431

Re: Working for Linux/Debian

2021-11-23 Thread Agata Erminia Pennisi
I'm sorry for you, next time read all messages before replying or quoting. That's all. Il mar 23 nov 2021, 20:59 Jonas Smedegaard ha scritto: > Quoting Agata Erminia Pennisi (2021-11-23 20:00:51) > > No "ownership" on my part. > > Sorry for misrepresenting your intent. > > > > I do not wish to b

Re: Working for Linux/Debian

2021-11-23 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Agata Erminia Pennisi (2021-11-23 20:00:51) > No "ownership" on my part. Sorry for misrepresenting your intent. > I do not wish to be directly or indirectly involved in discussions > extracted ad libitum. That's all. I urge you to simply refrain from posting to the thread if you wish t

Re: Working for Linux/Debian

2021-11-23 Thread Agata Erminia Pennisi
No "ownership" on my part. I do not wish to be directly or indirectly involved in discussions extracted ad libitum. That's all. Bye, bye Il mar 23 nov 2021, 19:24 Jonas Smedegaard ha scritto: > Hi Zayd, > > Quoting Zayd Ahmed (2021-11-23 18:21:38) > > Lol no problem yeah sorry I had asked for s

Re: Working for Linux/Debian

2021-11-23 Thread Felix Lechner
Hi Zayd, On Tue, Nov 23, 2021 at 8:16 AM Zayd Ahmed wrote: > > I can hopefully find a career in the field! I also enjoyed reading your follow-up message. Kind regards Felix Lechner

Re: Working for Linux/Debian

2021-11-23 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Hi Zayd, Quoting Zayd Ahmed (2021-11-23 18:21:38) > Lol no problem yeah sorry I had asked for some help on here a while > ago breaking into the open source/development stuff and there were a > lot of answers. So yeah sort of fell of at some point. Maybe will look > through this later and see if

Re: Working for Linux/Debian

2021-11-23 Thread Zayd Ahmed
Lol no problem yeah sorry I had asked for some help on here a while ago breaking into the open source/development stuff and there were a lot of answers. So yeah sort of fell of at some point. Maybe will look through this later and see if there was anything specific that I missed. Good luck with

Re: Working for Linux/Debian

2021-11-23 Thread Agata Erminia Pennisi
Thanks for your sharing, but this is an excerpt from a closed discussion, which also does not include my complete answers. Discussion that I do not intend to open again. Il mar 23 nov 2021, 17:01 Zayd Ahmed ha scritto: > Responding to these messages after a long time but I took a bootcamp and >

Re: Working for Linux/Debian

2021-11-23 Thread Zayd Ahmed
Responding to these messages after a long time but I took a bootcamp and hope to pursue further education in order to learn more computer science so then I can hopefully find a career in the field! > On Aug 8, 2021, at 12:00 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > Quoting Agata Erminia Pennisi (2021-0

Re: Working for Linux/Debian

2021-08-08 Thread Agata Erminia Pennisi
Dear Jonas, I'll put it aside with your redpills. You're welcome

Re: Working for Linux/Debian

2021-08-08 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Agata Erminia Pennisi (2021-08-08 09:27:51) > Sicilians in Italy are not considered Italians. This thread has as subject "Working for Linux/Debian", and since I suspected that the original poster might expect a high salary I found it relevant to point out that my own in

Re: Working for Linux/Debian

2021-08-08 Thread Agata Erminia Pennisi
Thanks Jonas for sharing your experience. But in my life I have not only known Debian. Sicilians in Italy are not considered Italians. We only serve to increase the flock, to vote, to pay taxes. And in the world, Italians, in general, are seen as cooks, pizza makers, mafia people, covid sufferers.

Re: Working for Linux/Debian

2021-08-08 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Agata Erminia Pennisi (2021-08-06 23:56:10) > *Red pill r*efers to (becoming enlightened to) the truth about > reality, especially a truth that is difficult to accept or exposes > disillusions. Funny you should emphasize redpill in the context of how to make a living off of Free softwar

Re: Working for Linux/Debian

2021-08-07 Thread Zayd Ahmed
Sorry for late response Jonas but that does make sense. I’m just trying to find the path to a career and it is tricky and unfortunately it seems slow and takes a while to gain experience. I might consider doing something like a coding bootcamp and then seeing if I can get a degree or maybe whate

Re: Working for Linux/Debian

2021-08-07 Thread Agata Erminia Pennisi
*Thanks Peter,* *I imagined and hoped he was referring to the Matrix.* *But in my life I have suffered from racism, so I preferred to share the meaning assigned to that term. That's all.* *Red pill r*efers to (becoming enlightened to) the truth about reality, especially a truth that is difficul

Re: Working for Linux/Debian

2021-08-07 Thread Peter Pentchev
On Fri, Aug 06, 2021 at 11:56:10PM +0200, Agata Erminia Pennisi wrote: > > Il ven 6 ago 2021, 17:06 Jonas Smedegaard ha scritto: > [snip] > > [ in reply to questions asked privately... ] > > > > I don't know any "real" programming language like C or C++ or Rust. My > > scripting language of choi

Re: Working for Linux/Debian

2021-08-07 Thread Agata Erminia Pennisi
*Red pill r*efers to (becoming enlightened to) the truth about reality, especially a truth that is difficult to accept or exposes disillusions. Online, *red pill* is especially used among anti-feminist and white supremacist

Re: Working for Linux/Debian

2021-08-06 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Zayd (2021-08-06 00:30:58) > How did you basically start learning or was it just a process of trial > and error? I did not attend any formal school or training courses, if that's what you mean. If you mean what drove me, then I have always felt that computers lacked meaning unless they

Re: Working for Linux/Debian

2021-08-06 Thread Agata Erminia Pennisi
"You can only gain experience for free. I told this to a restaurateur who had opened his first restaurant. So, in order to help him, I asked to eat in his restaurant for free. Oddly, he said No. 🤔" Dear Zeid, I am not part of the Debian project and I'm just an end user. You can create your own ope

Re: Working for Linux/Debian

2021-08-06 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Zayd (2021-08-06 00:29:41) > That makes sense. For me I want to know everything I can and solve my > own problems and do projects but I do think that I want to make > something so that I can afford what I need and then also maybe help to > support projects in the community. So I I have m

Re: Working for Linux/Debian

2021-08-05 Thread Zayd
uggested you to do, I did a lot of volunteer work. >>> I also offered my services at a very low price until I grew confident >>> that I was worth more. >>> >>> >>> > I’ve just tried different things on Linux and completed An >>> > Introductor

Re: Working for Linux/Debian

2021-08-05 Thread Zayd
ding your knowledge? >> >> Like Paul Wise also suggested you to do, I did a lot of volunteer work. >> I also offered my services at a very low price until I grew confident >> that I was worth more. >> >> >> > I’ve just tried different things on Linux and c

Re: Working for Linux/Debian

2021-08-05 Thread Zayd
s worth more. > > > > I’ve just tried different things on Linux and completed An > > Introductory certification through the Linux foundation. I’m > > comfortable with the basics of how to operate Debian and other distros > > but want to learn more. I’m most co

Re: Working for Linux/Debian

2021-08-05 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
ered my services at a very low price until I grew confident that I was worth more. > I’ve just tried different things on Linux and completed An > Introductory certification through the Linux foundation. I’m > comfortable with the basics of how to operate Debian and other distros >

Re: Working for Linux/Debian

2021-08-05 Thread Zayd
have been able to make it work. How did you go about building your knowledge? I’ve just tried different things on Linux and completed An Introductory certification through the Linux foundation. I’m comfortable with the basics of how to operate Debian and other distros but want to learn more. I’m most

Re: Working for Linux/Debian

2021-08-05 Thread Zayd
someone that has a similar mindset and really inspiring to hear that you have been able to make it work. How did you go about building your knowledge? I’ve just tried different things on Linux and completed An Introductory certification through the Linux foundation. I’m comfortable with the basics of

Re: Mail privacy (was: Working for Linux/Debian)

2021-08-05 Thread Parodper
O 05/08/21 ás 10:25, Martin escribiu: Dears, On 2021-08-04 20:09, Zayd Ahmed wrote: When I originally sent this message I just saw the contact information on the Debian website and didn’t realize that this was a chain email. I wonder, if we should point out more clearly, that certain email

Re: Mail privacy (was: Working for Linux/Debian)

2021-08-05 Thread Felix Lechner
Hi, On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 1:45 AM Martin wrote: > > I suggest to put *bold* warning signs on the top page(s), where such > email addresses appear: What a great suggestion! So much empathy. How about: WARNING: Do not post private information here! Your message will be read by many people and re

Mail privacy (was: Working for Linux/Debian)

2021-08-05 Thread Martin
Dears, On 2021-08-04 20:09, Zayd Ahmed wrote: > When I originally sent this message I just saw the contact information on the > Debian website and didn’t realize that this was a chain email. I wonder, if we should point out more clearly, that certain email addresses on our website point to pub

Re: Working for Linux/Debian

2021-08-05 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
h someone at Debian that could answer my > question but it seems there is no actual organization at Debian like > other enterprise Linux distros. I contacted Canonical, Red Hat, and > SUSE and it seems they have trainings but those are more enterprise > Linux distributions. Was just

Re: Working for Linux/Debian

2021-08-04 Thread Onildo R Ribeiro - Pessoal
Hello Zayd, how are you doing? Unless you are already working in some company it is very difficult for some recruiter believes you only in your words and feeling about linux. I suggest you to be cerified with Comptia Linux+ or LPI-1, 2 and 3 and after you get those certs you apply to a

Re: Working for Linux/Debian

2021-08-04 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Aug 4, 2021 at 3:28 PM Zayd Ahmed wrote: > I hope that you are doing well. My name is Zayd. I am currently in the midst > of a career change. A couple of years ago, I discovered Linux and realize > that I have a passion for it. I have already completed my Bachelors degree. I &

Re: Working for Linux/Debian

2021-08-04 Thread Zayd Ahmed
there is no actual organization at Debian like other enterprise Linux distros. I contacted Canonical, Red Hat, and SUSE and it seems they have trainings but those are more enterprise Linux distributions. Was just wondering if there was a path to having a career in Linux while focusing on Debian

Re: Working for Linux/Debian

2021-08-04 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Hello Zayd, > I hope that you are doing well. My name is Zayd. I am currently in > the midst of a career change. A couple of years ago, I discovered > Linux and realize that I have a passion for it. I have already > completed my Bachelors degree. I recently also completed an >

Working for Linux/Debian

2021-08-04 Thread Zayd Ahmed
Hello, I hope that you are doing well. My name is Zayd. I am currently in the midst of a career change. A couple of years ago, I discovered Linux and realize that I have a passion for it. I have already completed my Bachelors degree. I recently also completed an Introduction to Linux course

Re: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-24 Thread Pierre-Elliott Bécue
with upstream contributors), then making sure those changes are > > included in the relevant Debian version. That also means really early > > hardware shouldn't be needed since most of the *porting* work should > > have been done (and actually mostly by Intel and maybe AMD engin

Re: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-14 Thread Martin
On 2020-06-14 10:59, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: > Hibernation doesn't work with Secure Boot at the moment (there's no > infrastructure in the Linux kernel to verify that you're not resuming to an > “unsigned” memory image). Not sure how much people hibernate these days anyw

Re: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-14 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
;t work with Secure Boot at the moment (there's no infrastructure in the Linux kernel to verify that you're not resuming to an “unsigned” memory image). Not sure how much people hibernate these days anyway (I did that a lot on workstations but quite never on laptops) > But ethernet,

Re: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-13 Thread Mark Pearson
Hi Kurt On 6/13/2020 5:47 AM, Kurt Roeckx wrote: On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 05:10:11PM -0400, Mark Pearson wrote: Hi Kurt On 6/12/2020 2:58 PM, Kurt Roeckx wrote: On Wed, Jun 03, 2020 at 01:39:08PM +, Mark Pearson wrote: The good - Lenovo are expanding what they offer on Linux (we had

Re: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-13 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 05:10:11PM -0400, Mark Pearson wrote: > Hi Kurt > > On 6/12/2020 2:58 PM, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 03, 2020 at 01:39:08PM +, Mark Pearson wrote: > > > > > > The good - Lenovo are expanding what they offer on Linux (we ha

Re: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-12 Thread Paul Wise
king about hardware platforms here. Debian only has popularity information for architectures, not more specific than that. They don't exactly measure popularity, but the install howtos and installation reports are probably useful. Outside Debian there is the Linux Hardware Database, which allows

Re: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-12 Thread Mark Pearson
hould have been done (and actually mostly by Intel and maybe AMD engineers, these days). Agreed I'd say this is mostly about having the correct fixes in the Linux kernel, but maybe there are other parts which need fixes (maybe Xorg, pulseaudio, stuff like that?). I used to work on network sw

Re: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-12 Thread Mark Pearson
Hi Kurt On 6/12/2020 2:58 PM, Kurt Roeckx wrote: On Wed, Jun 03, 2020 at 01:39:08PM +, Mark Pearson wrote: The good - Lenovo are expanding what they offer on Linux (we had another big announcement yesterday about doing full config on our workstations with Ubuntu and RHEL). We're a

Re: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-12 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Wed, Jun 03, 2020 at 01:39:08PM +, Mark Pearson wrote: > > The good - Lenovo are expanding what they offer on Linux (we had another big > announcement yesterday about doing full config on our workstations with > Ubuntu and RHEL). We're asking HW vendors to have Linux

Re: Debian utility live distribution (was Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux)

2020-06-11 Thread RP
On 6/11/20 8:30 PM, Ryan Finnie wrote: As the developer of Finnix, I'm open to a few ideas and this will be a bit of a ramble going off in a few directions. But first, a bit of an introduction. Finnix is a utility Live CD, in production since 2000[0]. I recently released Finnix 120[1] after a

Debian utility live distribution (was Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux)

2020-06-11 Thread Ryan Finnie
Quoth pabs: > On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 7:46 PM Philip Hands wrote: > > > Of course, Grml isn't a direct output of the Debian project, so perhaps > > people might take issue with having that as the "Debian Recovery > > Option", but it is closely based on Debian, and includes a couple of > > ways of in

Re: Debian utility live distribution (was Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux)

2020-06-11 Thread Harshad Joshi
Till stretch release, live build did had a standard rescue package. It's not there anymore. --sent from OnePlus device-- Check out newly released IIoT Gateway https://sourceforge.net/projects/iiot-gateway/files/20_may_2020/ On Fri, 12 Jun, 2020, 9:01 AM Ryan Finnie, wrote: > Quoth pabs: > > O

Re: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-11 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 6/10/20 2:50 AM, RP wrote: > On 6/9/20 12:19 PM, Steve McIntyre wrote: >> use the install disk as an all around rescue disk. >> You can - there's a "rescue mode" if you look in the boot menus... >> > That's true, but I was looking for more tools than what busybox comes > with.  Like an all purpo

Re: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-10 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
one (and actually mostly by Intel and maybe AMD engineers, these days). I'd say this is mostly about having the correct fixes in the Linux kernel, but maybe there are other parts which need fixes (maybe Xorg, pulseaudio, stuff like that?). If you have experience on what was really needed in recent

Re: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-10 Thread RP
On 6/10/20 4:52 AM, Michael Kesper wrote: It would be nice if such a thing would be available as an official Debian live cd rescue image. No debian-live currently includes tools like lvm, for example. So you depend on a working network setup for rescueing encrypted partitions etc. Just my 2

Re: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-10 Thread Mark Pearson
Hi Yves-Alexis On 6/6/2020 10:43 AM, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Fri, 2020-06-05 at 11:58 -0400, Mark Pearson wrote: That's where doing a Debian pre-load would be challenging (which is really where this conversation started). If support for a pla

Re: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-10 Thread Michael Kesper
Hi all, On 10.06.20 01:59, RP wrote: > On 6/9/20 12:19 PM, Steve McIntyre wrote: >> use the install disk as an all around rescue disk. >> You can - there's a "rescue mode" if you look in the boot menus... >> > That's true, but I was looking for more tools than what busybox comes with.  > Like an

Re: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-09 Thread RP
On 6/9/20 12:19 PM, Steve McIntyre wrote: use the install disk as an all around rescue disk. You can - there's a "rescue mode" if you look in the boot menus... That's true, but I was looking for more tools than what busybox comes with.  Like an all purpose installer/rescue disk.  The suggestion

Re: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-09 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Tue, Jun 09, 2020 at 10:24:53AM -0700, RP wrote: >On 6/9/20 8:08 AM, Marc Haber wrote: >> >> Why would we want to do that when downstream distributions for this >> purpose are available. Frankly, I don't currently see that a Debian >> rescue image could reach grml's level of matureness in time.

Re: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-09 Thread RP
On 6/9/20 8:08 AM, Marc Haber wrote: Why would we want to do that when downstream distributions for this purpose are available. Frankly, I don't currently see that a Debian rescue image could reach grml's level of matureness in time. We do have more important things to spend our personpower on t

Re: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-09 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Marc Haber (2020-06-09 17:08:25) > On Sat, Jun 06, 2020 at 03:09:26AM +, Paul Wise wrote: > > Debian used to publish a "recovery" variant of Debian Live, but that > > was dropped due to lack of maintenance at one point. I note there are > > several Debian derivatives producing rescue/re

Re: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-09 Thread Marc Haber
On Sat, Jun 06, 2020 at 03:09:26AM +, Paul Wise wrote: > Debian used to publish a "recovery" variant of Debian Live, but that > was dropped due to lack of maintenance at one point. I note there are > several Debian derivatives producing rescue/recovery live media (Grml, > rescatux, Finnix come

Re: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-06 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Fri, 2020-06-05 at 11:58 -0400, Mark Pearson wrote: > That's where doing a Debian pre-load would be challenging (which is > really where this conversation started). If support for a platform isn't > there until 6 to 8 months after it's shipped (

Re: FW: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-05 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 7:46 PM Philip Hands wrote: > Of course, Grml isn't a direct output of the Debian project, so perhaps > people might take issue with having that as the "Debian Recovery > Option", but it is closely based on Debian, and includes a couple of > ways of installing vanilla Debian

Re: FW: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-05 Thread Philip Hands
Mark Pearson writes: >>> 3. Rescue partition >>> >>> Laptop manufacturers usually don't ship with physical media anymore. >>> Instead, the laptops have a rescue partition on them for >>> re-installing/resetting the machine. >>> >>> As far as I know both installers we currently use in Debian are f

Re: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-05 Thread Martin
On 2020-06-05 12:12, Mark Pearson wrote: > You will be able to buy a Linux system > (albeit not Debian) soon. That's fine with me! If a notebook computer works with any Linux, I'm confident, that I/someone can put Debian on it!

Re: Debian hardware support and enablement for newer devices (was ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux)

2020-06-05 Thread Noah Meyerhans
On Fri, Jun 05, 2020 at 12:26:12PM +0200, Ansgar wrote: > > > As a project, how can we improve the current entry level to new > > > companies wanting support for their devices? > > > > Is the backports archive not sufficient for this? I see it doesn't > > contain mesa backports at this point and p

Re: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-05 Thread Mark Pearson
Hi Martin On 6/5/2020 11:03 AM, Martin wrote: On 2020-06-03 13:39, Mark Pearson wrote: I'm the linux technical lead at Lenovo for the PC team and I'd *love* to improve the Debian experience on Lenovo platforms. Very welcome! Just to add some praise here: I'm using X220 at h

Re: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-05 Thread Mark Pearson
one admits using Linux, at least for clear hardware faults like broken mouse buttons etc¹, and can I please have the old keyboard style back as an option? And please keep in mind that Linux nerds enjoy tinkering around with their older hardware, so it would be great to have disk slots that conform to th

Re: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-05 Thread Mark Pearson
s can pick them up from there. It sounds like you are saying that the Linux kernel release cycle (every 2-3 months) plus the time it takes them to get into Debian is too slow for Lenovo. While Debian sid is waiting for the next Linux kernel release, it does get updated with Linux kernel stable rel

Re: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-05 Thread Martin
On 2020-06-03 13:39, Mark Pearson wrote: > I'm the linux technical lead at Lenovo for the PC team and I'd *love* to > improve the Debian experience on Lenovo platforms. Very welcome! Just to add some praise here: I'm using X220 at home and X220 at work, one with Debian tes

Re: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-05 Thread Pirate Praveen
en to get fixes from upstream into sid so that Debian users can pick them up from there. But being able to backport them from there would be brilliant. $ rmadison linux-image-amd64 [older releases skipped] linux-image-amd64 | 4.19+105+deb10u4| stable | amd64 linux-

Re: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-05 Thread Marc Haber
nerally, the [TX][245]40 series was not a very good machine regarding Linux, like the older T61[p] line. Things have become a lot better again since then, my X260 works like a charm, the T450 and T460 I had from my last customers were ok as well. Generally, T- and X-Thinkpads are a very good ch

Re: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-05 Thread Paul Wise
ounds like you are saying that the Linux kernel release cycle (every 2-3 months) plus the time it takes them to get into Debian is too slow for Lenovo. While Debian sid is waiting for the next Linux kernel release, it does get updated with Linux kernel stable releases, which get fixes that are backp

Re: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-05 Thread Mark Pearson
Hi Pirate On 6/5/2020 5:03 AM, Pirate Praveen wrote: Hi Mark, I also use a Thinkpad (X240) with Debian unstable, it mostly work except for some issues with touchpad and suspend (touchpad stops working after resuming from suspend, but I work around it using an external mouse). OK - I'll

Re: Debian hardware support and enablement for newer devices (was ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux)

2020-06-05 Thread Ansgar
On Thu, 2020-06-04 at 02:31 +, Paul Wise wrote: > > As a project, how can we improve the current entry level to new > > companies wanting support for their devices? > > Is the backports archive not sufficient for this? I see it doesn't > contain mesa backports at this point and probably other

RE: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-05 Thread Pirate Praveen
On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 1:39 pm, Mark Pearson wrote: From my point of view what I've been trying to do is to get more involved so I can contribute/backport fixes directly. I get good insight into what issues impact our platforms and when fixes land upstream. It seems the best way to make co

Re: Re: FW: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-04 Thread Hideki Yamane
Hi, Thank you for your mail. In short term, Lenovo cannot provide Debian pre-installed laptops since there are some blockers for it. But they want to give better experience with Linux for their laptop users, including Debian. So, we can continue to talk with them, will try to find the root

Re: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-03 Thread Vincent Bernat
ot have the four freedoms > since we cannot upload our own firmware binaries onto the audio > devices. So the best option here is for Intel to do the building and > signing and get them included in linux-firmware and then Debian pull > the latest version of that. Unfortunately

Re: Debian hardware support and enablement for newer devices (was ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux)

2020-06-03 Thread Paul Wise
nsultancy and pay Debian developers, a la Debian LTS, > but that has been at least controversial and, to my knowledge, no > general solution has been provided. There was the etch-and-a-half initiative a while ago, where backports of hardware support packages (Linux, xorg drivers) were added to s

Re: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-03 Thread Paul Wise
since we cannot upload our own firmware binaries onto the audio devices. So the best option here is for Intel to do the building and signing and get them included in linux-firmware and then Debian pull the latest version of that. More details in the links on this page: https://wiki.debian.org/Firm

Debian hardware support and enablement for newer devices (was ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux)

2020-06-03 Thread Hector Oron
Hello, > > A shout out for Hector Martinez who has been helping me a whole bunch. > > Without his help I likely would have given up and wouldn't even be reading > > the threads on this forum. If there are more people like Hector > > (particularly in kernel, audio and graphics) let me know! > A

Re: FW: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-03 Thread Mark Pearson
ng ThinkPad users too). That sounds awesome. And agreed - I would never want to pressure picking up patches that are wrong. My general mantra to *anybody* in open source for any of our Linux offerings is if you see us doing anything crappy let me know as it's very important to me that w

Re: FW: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-03 Thread Jonathan Carter
So - I'm kinda nervous about the support side to see what happens as we > enable websales. Up until now it's just been corporate customers and > best effort support on our Lenovo Linux forums. > We will provide support for HW related aspects of the platforms and > genuinely w

Re: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-03 Thread Mark Pearson
Hi Vincent On 6/3/2020 3:29 PM, Vincent Bernat wrote: ❦ 3 juin 2020 13:39 +00, Mark Pearson: As an important example - the X1 Carbon 7 (which is a popular machine) still doesn't work well with any version of Debian (including experimental or testing) as the audio is broken. Debian users hav

Re: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-03 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 3 juin 2020 13:39 +00, Mark Pearson: > As an important example - the X1 Carbon 7 (which is a popular machine) > still doesn't work well with any version of Debian (including > experimental or testing) as the audio is broken. Debian users have to > jump through a few hoops to get it to work. I'

Re: FW: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-03 Thread Mark Pearson
Hi Jonathan Thanks for the follow up. Also - apologies as I realised I used my non-linux friendly email account for my original posting with all the horrible outlook mangling. I'm posting this from my alternative account which avoids outlook (I'm just transitioning between the tw

Re: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-03 Thread Felix Lechner
Hi Mark, On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 9:02 AM Jonathan Carter wrote: > > My x250 is 5 years old So is my T450s, and it's not the first. Lenovo and Debian are a great combo. Thanks for taking this initiative! Kind regards Felix Lechner

Re: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-03 Thread tomas
On Wed, Jun 03, 2020 at 05:53:50PM +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote: > Hi Mark! [...] This is from the peanut gallery, from a simple Debian user. Thanks you both for this delightful exchange. This is one of the things why I love Debian -- running, BTW, on a thinkpad, which is an awesome machine, too

Re: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-03 Thread Jonathan Carter
feel free to reach out to me personally at any time if you're frustrated with getting something done in Debian. > Short answer - you have the right contact. I'm the linux technical lead at > Lenovo for the PC team and I'd *love* to improve the Debian experience on > Lenovo pla

RE: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-03 Thread Mark Pearson
vo.com/smarter-technology-for-all-extends-to-the-linux- > community-this-summer/ > > > > At past DebConfs, I saw a lot of ThinkPad devices so many contributors > > love it, and they're even Platinum sponsor for this year. > > Can we talk to them to happen the s

Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-03 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Wed, Jun 03, 2020 at 02:10:09PM +0200, Thomas Goirand wrote: >On 6/3/20 4:30 AM, Hideki Yamane wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I've found an article about Lenovo ships Fedora pre-installed machine. >> >> https://news.lenovo.com/smarter-technology-for-all-exte

Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-03 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 6/3/20 4:30 AM, Hideki Yamane wrote: > Hi, > > I've found an article about Lenovo ships Fedora pre-installed machine. > > https://news.lenovo.com/smarter-technology-for-all-extends-to-the-linux-community-this-summer/ > > At past DebConfs, I saw a lot o

ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-02 Thread Hideki Yamane
Hi, I've found an article about Lenovo ships Fedora pre-installed machine. https://news.lenovo.com/smarter-technology-for-all-extends-to-the-linux-community-this-summer/ At past DebConfs, I saw a lot of ThinkPad devices so many contributors love it, and they're even Platinum s

Linux Developer Conference Brazil in August, 2-4

2019-04-02 Thread Gustavo Padovan
Hi, For those who are attending DebConf19 in Brazil next July I would like you invite you to 3rd edition of the Linux Developer Conference Brazil - linuxdev-br[1], which will happen one week after in São Paulo. The conference is focused at connecting the community around the core components of

Re: Linux - Debian

2019-03-18 Thread Paul Wise
c instead. https://www.libreoffice.org/discover/calc/ If that is not possible, Microsoft Excel does not officially support Linux but it may be possible to get it running using the Wine project. https://www.winehq.org/ > 3) Is running full MySQL without problems? Debian stretch replaced MySQL wi

Linux - Debian

2019-03-18 Thread Mucska.La
Dear Sir / Madam, I look for operation systems for new notebook, which it will be. Please, could you answer me on following: 1) How is claims/demands on hardware, prize,  another costs for using (licences, uppgrades, etc.). 2) Is running full MS Excel 2019 without problems? 3) Is r

Re: Linux Mint Operating System V.S Other Operating Systems

2017-08-29 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 8/29/17, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 12:01:52PM -0500, Walsh, Ryan wrote: >> My name is Ryan Walsh and I am a gifted student from Saint Charles MO. I >> am >> researching why Linux Mint is more popular than other operating systems. >> I >&g

Re: Linux Mint Operating System V.S Other Operating Systems

2017-08-29 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 12:01:52PM -0500, Walsh, Ryan wrote: > My name is Ryan Walsh and I am a gifted student from Saint Charles MO. I am > researching why Linux Mint is more popular than other operating systems. I > am really enjoying researching this topic and I have some questi

Linux Mint Operating System V.S Other Operating Systems

2017-08-29 Thread Walsh, Ryan
My name is Ryan Walsh and I am a gifted student from Saint Charles MO. I am researching why Linux Mint is more popular than other operating systems. I am really enjoying researching this topic and I have some questions about Debian for research: 1. What was Debian mainly built towards

Why does no one care that Brad Spengler of GRSecurity is blatantly violating the intention of the rightsholders to the Linux Kernel?

2017-06-15 Thread aconcernedfossdev
Why does no one care that Brad Spengler of GRSecurity is blatantly violating the intention of the rightsholders to the Linux Kernel? He is also violating the license grant, Courts would not be fooled by his scheme to prevent redistribution. The license grant the Linux Kernel is distributed

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