Re: Rethink about who we (Debian) are in rapid dev cycle of deep learning

2022-01-15 Thread M. Zhou
Hi Paul, Thanks for the additional questions. On Sun, 2022-01-16 at 09:43 +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > On Wed, 2022-01-12 at 19:00 -0500, M. Zhou wrote: > > > I've had some discussions with several fellow developers on > > suggesting Debian > > to buy some GPUs to extend its infrastructures for bet

Re: Rethink about who we (Debian) are in rapid dev cycle of deep learning

2022-01-15 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, 2022-01-12 at 19:00 -0500, M. Zhou wrote: > I've had some discussions with several fellow developers on suggesting Debian > to buy some GPUs to extend its infrastructures for better GPU support. Was there a plan for what to use these GPUs for? Were they needed for driver/other package bu

Re: Rethink about who we (Debian) are in rapid dev cycle of deep learning

2022-01-15 Thread tomas
On Sat, Jan 15, 2022 at 10:45:35AM +0100, Davide Prina wrote: > On 14/01/22 07:01, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > > That said, to have a workable face recognition, [...] you'll have to collect > > consent from all those face "providers". > > I think that is not so simple. The reply can be very

Re: Rethink about who we (Debian) are in rapid dev cycle of deep learning

2022-01-15 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 08:23:03PM +, Free unofficial Italian translation - FUIT wrote: > I know wikipedia. I was hoping there was a forensic court expert for the > voiceprint among you. This sounds like a wrong topic for debian-project@. -- WBR, wRAR signature.asc Description: PGP signa

Re: Rethink about who we (Debian) are in rapid dev cycle of deep learning

2022-01-15 Thread Davide Prina
On 14/01/22 07:01, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 10:07:05PM +0100, Davide Prina wrote: On 13/01/22 01:00, M. Zhou wrote: Cool and useful stuff keeps emerging -- e.g., Facial Authentication for Linux https://github.com/boltgolt/howdy note that EU (European Union) Privacy

Re: Switzerland and EU (WAS: Rethink about who we (Debian) are in rapid dev cycle of deep learning)

2022-01-14 Thread Davide Prina
On 14/01/22 12:02, Thomas Goirand wrote: On 1/13/22 22:07, Davide Prina wrote: So facial recognition will be illegal for doing workers authentication or for identify clients in your shop or... Let's say we have facial recognition to enter a data center, is this illegal as well? Will that be a

Re: Rethink about who we (Debian) are in rapid dev cycle of deep learning

2022-01-14 Thread tomas
On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 05:33:32PM +, Free unofficial Italian translation - FUIT wrote: > It may seem like a stupid question, but are there any open source programs > based on artificial intelligence for the recognition and forensic analysis of > the voice print? Wikipedia [1] is your frien

Re: Rethink about who we (Debian) are in rapid dev cycle of deep learning

2022-01-14 Thread M. Zhou
On Fri, 2022-01-14 at 15:35 +0100, Gard Spreemann wrote: > > I understand how you reach these conclusions, both from the POV of > hardware driver non-freedom and from the POV of the toxic candy > problem > of trained models. And while I agree with your conclusions, I do > worry > about the prospec

Re: Rethink about who we (Debian) are in rapid dev cycle of deep learning

2022-01-14 Thread Gard Spreemann
Thank you for your work in this area, and wise thoughts, as always! "M. Zhou" writes: > My conclusion is: "Users with special demands can take care of themselves, > as we are unable to go far on our own." In terms of GPU computing, Debian > is providing a great system as a foundation for develop

Re: Rethink about who we (Debian) are in rapid dev cycle of deep learning

2022-01-14 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 1/13/22 22:07, Davide Prina wrote: So facial recognition will be illegal for doing workers authentication or for identify clients in your shop or... Let's say we have facial recognition to enter a data center, is this illegal as well? Will that be also illegal in Switzerland? Cheers, Tho

Re: Rethink about who we (Debian) are in rapid dev cycle of deep learning

2022-01-14 Thread tomas
On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 10:07:05PM +0100, Davide Prina wrote: > On 13/01/22 01:00, M. Zhou wrote: > > > Cool and useful stuff keeps emerging -- e.g., Facial Authentication for > > Linux > >https://github.com/boltgolt/howdy > > note that EU (European Union) Privacy is managed by the GDPR Regu

Rethink about who we (Debian) are in rapid dev cycle of deep learning

2022-01-14 Thread Free unofficial Italian translation - FUIT
Thanks Davide, for talking about this. This is not just a legal problem, but a de facto reality implemented in disregard of any right to freedom. In order to prevent artificial intelligence from being used against the privacy of third parties, it is necessary to eliminate "the opportunity" (foll

Re: Rethink about who we (Debian) are in rapid dev cycle of deep learning

2022-01-13 Thread Davide Prina
On 13/01/22 01:00, M. Zhou wrote: Cool and useful stuff keeps emerging -- e.g., Facial Authentication for Linux https://github.com/boltgolt/howdy note that EU (European Union) Privacy is managed by the GDPR Regulation and the ePrivacy Directive. The Directive will be replaced by the ePriva

Re: Rethink about who we (Debian) are in rapid dev cycle of deep learning

2022-01-13 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 1/13/22 01:00, M. Zhou wrote: Thank you for the excellent system, fellow developers. Thanks to you for all of your work in this field. Cheers, Thomas Goirand (zigo)

Rethink about who we (Debian) are in rapid dev cycle of deep learning

2022-01-12 Thread M. Zhou
Keywords: GPU computing support, AI applications & ML-Policy. Deep learning is a new area. From our past discussions, we have already noted that this area introduces many new questions to Debian. For example, the new AI applications may even challenge the definition of free software. In this artic