Re: What do you expect from the DPL?

2015-02-16 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 16/02/15 at 20:39 +0100, Ondřej Surý wrote: > Just few random notes... > > On Fri, Feb 13, 2015, at 04:08, Paul Wise wrote: > > > - Mediation regarding social and technical problems > > > > The former seems like the responsibility of Debian as a whole and the > > latter is the responsibility o

Re: What do you expect from the DPL?

2015-02-16 Thread Ondřej Surý
Just few random notes... On Fri, Feb 13, 2015, at 04:08, Paul Wise wrote: > > - Mediation regarding social and technical problems > > The former seems like the responsibility of Debian as a whole and the > latter is the responsibility of the CTTE. I have several occasions in my mind when I would

Re: What do you expect from the DPL?

2015-02-16 Thread Nikolaus Rath
On Feb 16 2015, Ian Jackson wrote: >> I haven't seen any followup from the tech ctte on some of the disucssion from >> Dec about improving the way the ctte approaches requests, cf >> >> https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2014/12/msg00050.html >> https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2014/12/ms

Re: What do you expect from the DPL?

2015-02-16 Thread Ian Jackson
Anthony Towns writes ("Re: What do you expect from the DPL?"): > To my mind, that's because there's a lack of obvious alternatives on how > to do ambitious Debian reform plans -- or in particular establishing the > moral and practical support for them. So in the same

Re: What do you expect from the DPL?

2015-02-15 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 02:41:18PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 10:07:08AM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > My own view on the original question ("What are you expected the DPL to > > do?") is that the main thing the DPL must absolutely do is being a good > > "garbage

Re: What do you expect from the DPL?

2015-02-14 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 02:41:18PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: >On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 10:07:08AM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: >> My own view on the original question ("What are you expected the DPL to >> do?") is that the main thing the DPL must absolutely do is being a good >> "garbage coll

Re: What do you expect from the DPL?

2015-02-14 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 10:07:08AM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > My own view on the original question ("What are you expected the DPL to > do?") is that the main thing the DPL must absolutely do is being a good > "garbage collector" (I think the original naming comes from Zack). Possibly. I think

Re: What do you expect from the DPL?

2015-02-14 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
Hi, On 13/02/15 at 11:08 +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 4:57 AM, Ana Guerrero Lopez wrote: > > > Lucas sent an email asking people to encourage their 'dream DPL' [1]. > > I have already encouraged a few people in the last weeks, but when > > discussing > > with them, they all

Re: What do you expect from the DPL?

2015-02-13 Thread Ana Guerrero Lopez
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 11:08:44AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 4:57 AM, Ana Guerrero Lopez wrote: > > > Lucas sent an email asking people to encourage their 'dream DPL' [1]. > > I have already encouraged a few people in the last weeks, but when > > discussing > > with them,

Re: What do you expect from the DPL?

2015-02-12 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 4:57 AM, Ana Guerrero Lopez wrote: > Lucas sent an email asking people to encourage their 'dream DPL' [1]. > I have already encouraged a few people in the last weeks, but when discussing > with them, they all tell me very different things about the DPL role. When > I asked:

Re: What do you expect from the DPL?

2015-02-12 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
[ just pointing to some "related work" / previous discussion on this topic ] On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 09:57:04PM +0100, Ana Guerrero Lopez wrote: > This is, globally, people are expecting the DPL to do all of the above and > maybe > more. I think it's clear this is NOT humanly possible. What are t

What do you expect from the DPL?

2015-02-12 Thread Ana Guerrero Lopez
Hi, Lucas sent an email asking people to encourage their 'dream DPL' [1]. I have already encouraged a few people in the last weeks, but when discussing with them, they all tell me very different things about the DPL role. When I asked: "What are you expecting the DPL to do?", I got a bunch of diff