Re: Why does Debian have code names for releases?

2023-07-03 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 03 Jul 2023 23:34:50 +0200 Emanuel Berg wrote: Hello Emanuel, >Maybe the UK roads also follow a system. They certainly did. The remnants can be seen still. Maybe wikipedia has an article about it - I've not checked. A DDG (or other search engine) lookup would find something. -- Re

Re: Why does Debian have code names for releases?

2023-07-03 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 03 Jul 2023 23:33:23 +0200 Emanuel Berg wrote: Hello Emanuel, >days, they want their product or project to come up first if >anyone Googles them. What comes up first is the company with biggest wallet. Name, or number, matters not one iota. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator

Re: Network setup on Raspberry Pi

2023-07-03 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Mon, Jul 3, 2023 at 6:22 PM Michael Jinks wrote: > I have a Pi 4 machine where I've installed two OS's, the "house supplied", > and Ubuntu, both worked fine so I'm sure the hardware is good. Now I'd > like to install Debian. > > I've found one very slim image of that, which ran without issue,

Re: Network setup on Raspberry Pi

2023-07-03 Thread tomas
On Mon, Jul 03, 2023 at 05:21:20PM -0500, Michael Jinks wrote: > I have a Pi 4 machine where I've installed two OS's, the "house supplied", > and Ubuntu, both worked fine so I'm sure the hardware is good. Now I'd > like to install Debian. > > I've found one very slim image of that, which ran with

Re: mounting media in plasma5

2023-07-03 Thread Max Nikulin
On 03/07/2023 20:45, Greg Wooledge wrote: Who or what mounted the device? udiskd (udisks2 package) in response to a d-bus call from GUI. There is the udisksctl(1) CLI tool as well. On an external ex4 drive it is possible to chown directories to a specific user or a group, however it would n

Re: Why does Debian have code names for releases?

2023-07-03 Thread Emanuel Berg
tomas wrote: > Or is "metric" one of these things spared by the > Brexit Bonfire? It depends which gear your camp is since the metric system is partly implemented and partly co-exists (e.g. on product labels) in the UK ... and the supposed all-Metric world. Everything, of course, Made in China an

Network setup on Raspberry Pi

2023-07-03 Thread Michael Jinks
I have a Pi 4 machine where I've installed two OS's, the "house supplied", and Ubuntu, both worked fine so I'm sure the hardware is good. Now I'd like to install Debian. I've found one very slim image of that, which ran without issue, but left nothing in the way of a network. So now I'm trying t

Re: Why does Debian have code names for releases?

2023-07-03 Thread Emanuel Berg
Brad Rogers wrote: >> But M5 can be a bolt size and a lot of other things as well, > > Context! When the conversation is about roads in the UK, why > would *anyone* think bolt size? I agree, but that's why people have a hangup with names these days, they want their product or project to come up f

Re: Why does Debian have code names for releases?

2023-07-03 Thread Emanuel Berg
tomas wrote: >>> But M5 can be a bolt size and a lot of other things as well, >> >> Context! When the conversation is about roads in the UK, >> why would *anyone* think bolt size? > > Especially metric ones =:-o Maybe the UK roads also follow a system. They were the first guys having one, after

Re: Why does Debian have code names for releases?

2023-07-03 Thread Emanuel Berg
debian-user wrote: No but I live in the UK and I know the A1, A2, A4, A5, A6 and many others, plus the M1, M4, M5, M6. >> >> But M5 can be a bolt size and a lot of other things as >> well, while creative names may stay "more" unique. > > Nonsense. Curt's reply (which you cut when wrongl

Re: Deactivating and Reactivating the display of a NUC 13

2023-07-03 Thread Anssi Saari
Stefan Schumacher writes: > Hello Timothy > >>Do both NUC's have the same behavior or is just one of them having > this problem? If just one of >them is having this behavior is it the > DP or HDMI? > > I have just done some tests and it's only the USB-C-to-DP NUC that is > problematic. The HDMI o

Re: mounting media in plasma5

2023-07-03 Thread Bob McGowan
On 7/3/23 07:36 AM, Hans wrote: An ext4 file system has its own internal Unix ownerships and permissions. When mounted, those ownerships and permissions are what determine who can read or write to each file/directory within the file system. Yes, I know. The ACL that's being added at the root di

Re: Why does Debian have code names for releases?

2023-07-03 Thread tomas
On Mon, Jul 03, 2023 at 05:53:10PM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Mon, 03 Jul 2023 18:28:49 +0200 > Emanuel Berg wrote: > > Hello Emanuel, > > >But M5 can be a bolt size and a lot of other things as well, > > Context! When the conversation is about roads in the UK, why would > *anyone* think b

Re: Why does Debian have code names for releases?

2023-07-03 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 03 Jul 2023 18:28:49 +0200 Emanuel Berg wrote: Hello Emanuel, >But M5 can be a bolt size and a lot of other things as well, Context! When the conversation is about roads in the UK, why would *anyone* think bolt size? -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}"

Re: Why does Debian have code names for releases?

2023-07-03 Thread mick.crane
On 2023-07-01 15:15, David Wright wrote: You don't have to memorize all of Debian's codenames in order, do you? There are about three or four in current use at any one time. (And the release numbers might be monotonic, but they're not sequential, so memorizing them would be just as tricky.) Th

Re: Why does Debian have code names for releases?

2023-07-03 Thread debian-user
Emanuel Berg wrote: > Curt wrote: > > >> No but I live in the UK and I know the A1, A2, A4, A5, A6 > >> and many others, plus the M1, M4, M5, M6. > > But M5 can be a bolt size and a lot of other things as well, > while creative names may stay "more" unique. Nonsense. Curt's reply (which you c

Re: Why does Debian have code names for releases?

2023-07-03 Thread Emanuel Berg
Curt wrote: >> No but I live in the UK and I know the A1, A2, A4, A5, A6 >> and many others, plus the M1, M4, M5, M6. But M5 can be a bolt size and a lot of other things as well, while creative names may stay "more" unique. But on the other hand there are many Emmas and Camillas, and people tend

Re: Deactivating and Reactivating the display of a NUC 13

2023-07-03 Thread debian-user
Stefan Schumacher wrote: > Hello Timothy > > >Do both NUC's have the same behavior or is just one of them having > >this problem? If just one of >them is having this behavior is it the > >DP or HDMI? > > I have just done some tests and it's only the USB-C-to-DP NUC that is > problematic. The H

Re: Why does Debian have code names for releases?

2023-07-03 Thread Curt
On 2023-07-03, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > Nicolas George wrote: >> Roger Price (12023-07-03): >> > Exactly my point that inanimate objects of which there are many >> > examples are best known by numbers. Numbers so well known that >> > songs are written about the number: historic US 66

Re: Deactivating and Reactivating the display of a NUC 13

2023-07-03 Thread Stefan Schumacher
Hello Timothy >Do both NUC's have the same behavior or is just one of them having this >problem? If just one of >them is having this behavior is it the DP or HDMI? I have just done some tests and it's only the USB-C-to-DP NUC that is problematic. The HDMI one goes into suspend and wakes up witho

Re: mounting media in plasma5

2023-07-03 Thread Hans
> An ext4 file system has its own internal Unix ownerships and permissions. > When mounted, those ownerships and permissions are what determine who > can read or write to each file/directory within the file system. Yes, I know. > > The ACL that's being added at the root directory of the mounted f

Re: mounting media in plasma5

2023-07-03 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Jul 03, 2023 at 04:09:23PM +0200, Hans wrote: > > If not: Can you create a new file in /media/myusername/ ? > > Nope, I can not. I was at a customer today and did an upgrade from bullseye > to bookworm and there I discvered this issue the first time, as he has a > hardrive with ext4. As

Re: mounting media in plasma5

2023-07-03 Thread Hans
Am Montag, 3. Juli 2023, 16:02:34 CEST schrieb Thomas Schmitt: > Hi, > > Hans wrote: > > getfacl /media/myusername/ > > [...] > > user:myusername:r-x > > I wonder why the desktop did not give you write permission. > Does > mount | grep /media/myusername > show option "ro" in the part of the out

Re: mounting media in plasma5

2023-07-03 Thread Hans
Ok, I learned now, that I can either clear the directory /media/myusername frm ACL, or I can set special settings with "setfacl" or deinstall acl (worst idea). But what d you suggest, should I do? I believe, there is some configuration file, where ACL are preset or preconfigured. Remember, I am

Re: mounting media in plasma5

2023-07-03 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Hans wrote: > getfacl /media/myusername/ > [...] > user:myusername:r-x I wonder why the desktop did not give you write permission. Does mount | grep /media/myusername show option "ro" in the part of the output line which is in "()" brackets ? If not: Can you create a new file in /media/myu

Re: mounting media in plasma5

2023-07-03 Thread Hans
The device is a usb-harddrive, formatted with ext4. It is connected to an usb port, and the user is mounting it using the option in plasma5 (KDE). So it is plasma5 which is mounting the device. As I did not use ACL in the past, I am just crawling through docs and the web, to learn, how to set

Re: mounting media in plasma5

2023-07-03 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Jul 03, 2023 at 03:40:22PM +0200, Hans wrote: > getfacl /media/myusername/ > getfacl: Entferne führende '/' von absoluten Pfadnamen > # file: media/myusername/ > # owner: root > # group: root > user::rwx > user:myusername:r-x > group::--- > mask::r-x > other::--- > Exchanged my r

Re: mounting media in plasma5

2023-07-03 Thread Hans
Am Montag, 3. Juli 2023, 15:16:22 CEST schrieb Thomas Schmitt: Hi Thomas, good hint! Yes, of course ACL. I forgot about it. This is the output: getfacl /media/myusername/ getfacl: Entferne führende '/' von absoluten Pfadnamen # file: media/myusername/ # owner: root # group: root user::rwx

Re: mounting media in plasma5

2023-07-03 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, > drwxr-x---+  2 root root 4096 24. Jun 18:55 myusername > The device will be mounted under "/media/myusername/", but when I look. I > see owner rot and group root. And only root is allowed to read and write > into this folder. The "+" indicates the presence of ACL. What do you get from g

mounting media in plasma5

2023-07-03 Thread Hans
Hi folks, there is a little thing, I am not quite understanding: I want to mount an usb-media (harddrive) with ext4-filesystem in plasma5. When I physically connect it to an usb port, it can be automatically mounted and dolphin will open. This is working well. But I am wondering of the rights

Re: How do I remotely access the computer in the next room?

2023-07-03 Thread debian-user
Andy Smith wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Jul 03, 2023 at 12:17:36AM +0100, Alain D D Williams wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 02, 2023 at 06:49:07PM -0400, hobie of RMN wrote: > > > Chiefly I'm looking for the most convenient way to keep an eye > > > on his incoming e-mail for him. Mostly I use Mutt; he use

Re: Why does Debian have code names for releases?

2023-07-03 Thread debian-user
Nicolas George wrote: > Roger Price (12023-07-03): > > Exactly my point that inanimate objects of which there are many > > examples are best known by numbers. Numbers so well known that > > songs are written about the number: historic US 66 [1], and in > > France the historic N7 [2], a vacation h

Re: Deactivating and Reactivating the display of a NUC 13

2023-07-03 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Sun, Jul 2, 2023 at 10:39 AM Stefan Malte Schumacher < s.schumac...@netcologne.de> wrote: > Hello everybody, > > This is a revised translation of a posting to the German Debian > mailing list. Unfortunately > nobody there was able to help me with my problem but I hope that on > this list with a

Re: Why does Debian have code names for releases?

2023-07-03 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Mon, Jul 3, 2023 at 4:42 AM Roger Price wrote: > > On Sun, 2 Jul 2023, David Wright wrote: > > > Perhaps more people remember the A5 is the Holyhead Road, rather than > > Exactly my point that inanimate objects of which there are many examples are > best known by numbers. Numbers so well known

Re: Why does Debian have code names for releases?

2023-07-03 Thread Nicolas George
Roger Price (12023-07-03): > Exactly my point that inanimate objects of which there are many examples are > best known by numbers. Numbers so well known that songs are written about > the number: historic US 66 [1], and in France the historic N7 [2], a > vacation highway. And you know which one i

Re: Why does Debian have code names for releases?

2023-07-03 Thread Roger Price
On Sun, 2 Jul 2023, David Wright wrote: Perhaps more people remember the A5 is the Holyhead Road, rather than Exactly my point that inanimate objects of which there are many examples are best known by numbers. Numbers so well known that songs are written about the number: historic US 66 [1]