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Title:
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Status i
I'd really just prefer that you revert back to the classic, time tested
user interface. The white and grey examples are not nearly as easy to
see. If it wasn't broken, why break it? This change has single handedly
made thunderbird less pleasant for me to use. I held off upgrading my
operating syste
The above mock-ups don't show what happens when there is a long list of
recipients. The current style does not make obvious how many there are
if they are more than three, but the proposed style does not seem to
make things better (and perhaps it makes them worse by just showing 1
recipient).
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(In reply to M Lopez-Ibanez from comment #82)
> The above mock-ups don't show what happens when there is a long list of
> recipients. The current style does not make obvious how many there are if
> they are more than three, but the proposed style does not seem to make
> things better (and perhaps i
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Title:
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Actually, problem has diminished:
- Active fields can be found by hovering the mouse.
- When creating new message, first "To:" field is selected by default.
- If you forget to add "Subject:" line, you are reminded.
Personally i got used to new interface and always remember to change
To:, Subject:
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Title:
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S
@Andrej: Welcome to the club :-) I have had to manually modify the text
fields in order to be able to properly use Thunderbird. It is beyond me
why this has not been recognised as a usability issue in the first
place, and it is beyond me why the default design is still unusable at
this point in tim
I work as computer administrator in small company.
1. Had complain from user that "in e-mail something has changed
dramatically", Particularly those grayed out fields.
2. Upgraded my own Thunderbird version to see the changes and to see
what i can do about it. After short time was writing Re: ema
Adding relevant search words to summary - was too hard too find!
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Title:
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Bob added the following comment to Launchpad bug report 1347305:
What's pissing me off about this? Is how you all lack souls, and somehow
I've got to do the obvious goddamn complaining/fighting/etc that none of
you have even seemed to want to bother with. Tell mozilla to fuck
itself, switch to som
What's pissing me off about this? Is how you all lack souls, and somehow
I've got to do the obvious goddamn complaining/fighting/etc that none of
you have even seemed to want to bother with. Tell mozilla to fuck
itself, switch to something else. Why do I have to be an asshole to
stand up for your s
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Created attachment 8524740
8515396 Mockup Revisited
Based on mockup proposed by Josiah (attachment 8507360 and attachment 8515396),
and few comments that follows, I would suggest the following modifications (see
mockup attached):
- keep white background by default
- remove underline below fiel
Created attachment 8524840
8524740 Mockup variation (with margins)
As a further proposal, here is a slight variation of my previous mockup
(attachment 8524740) with following changes:
- added more space between labels and value fields
- made the subject field higher to create a better and more br
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(In reply to Josiah Bruner [:JosiahOne] (needinfo > CC) from comment #72)
> (In reply to Andrew Buehler from comment #67)
> > - the vibrancy looks weird, I was wondering if my screen had glitched.
> Yeah, I don't think I'm going to use that.
I kinda liked the vibrancy, and am having happy thoughts
(In reply to Josiah Bruner [:JosiahOne] (needinfo > CC) from comment #72)
> (In reply to calimeroteknik from comment #69)
> > Short comments:
> > - the arrow on the right (see attachment);
>
> I agree, I think that will be removed completely.
Ah, but then if it looks like the other editable fields
(In reply to Andrew Buehler from comment #67)
> Based on comment 52, I'm presuming that this would be intended as a
> cross-platform appearance (as much as possible given OS/toolkit
> capabilities), not something Mac-specific despite the current screenshots?
Yes, it will be XP, though the current
Created attachment 8515391
WIP screenshot.
Screenshot.
Please, please, please don't comment on this with specific details you'd
like addressed, or other multi-page comments. :) I'm still working on
getting a basis, so limit comments to general ideas.
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Created attachment 8515397
Use -moz-mac-vibrancy-light screenshot
Also, here's an idea I had to add vibrancy to the OS X 10.10 version. I
think it looks pretty nice, but I'm not convinced it's worth it
considering the trouble it will be to obtain border colors for the
fields (which in this screens
Short comments:
- the arrow on the right (see attachment);
- the vibrancy looks weird, I was wondering if my screen had glitched.
I would also be very thankful if you could make sure that your changes
look OK on dark themes. Thunderbird always has!
On the whole, it looks like you are trying to ma
Created attachment 8515396
WIP screenshot.
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Title:
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Status in Mozilla Thunder
Speaking as someone who found the TB31 compose-headers interface
sufficiently horrible that he actively applied much user-chrome CSS to
revert it to something very close to the TB24 one, while I'm not
entirely happy with the look of these latest screenshots, I'm much more
pleased with them than wit
@Josiah
First of all: Thank you, that's a huge improvement of the current
situation and still different than the old one.
In addition to the comments (top right arrow, missing arrows of the To:
field): The left alignment of the From: field doesn't match the other
ones.
I want to try this version
Created attachment 8515389
WIP
Not even close to done, but I'm uploading my WIP for documentation.
(I'll go ahead and upload the screenshot as well)
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This looks already promising.
I think -moz-mac-vibrancy-light is mostly used on sidebars, or not? It
makes the header part again different from content, which isn't the goal
of this bug. I think first we should do it without vibrancy.
Here some feedback:
- The header background color should be p
Created attachment 8515395
WIP
Whoops, I messed up the padding of the toolbar on accident. This patch
corrects that and cleans up some other styling.
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The attachment didn't work, here it is:
http://www.kirikoo.net/images/14Anonyme-20141101-133421.png
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Address fields ar
Hello,
how much feedback is necessary to get
this feature-bug fixed!?
greetings
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Most of the users of Thunderbird are normally in my expectation people
who want an email system that just works. It does not need all the bells
and whistles, skins and fashionable features, it just needs to work.
Change for the sake of change is not a good option. If somebody wants to
change someth
(In reply to Josiah Bruner [:JosiahOne] (needinfo > CC) from comment #2)
> This was an intentional change made across platforms that makes text fields
> appear as single lines when text needs to be entered instead of the bulkier
> text fields.
Imho how bulky text fields appear depends much on thei
This problem extends even further indeed: Personally, I might be able to
"work around" the (for me) currently unusable default compose window,
but I have become hesitant to recommend Thunderbird to others.
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Aesthetically, to my eyes both Richard's and Josiah's proposals look
very clean.
Functionally, what I like particularly about Richard's mockup is that
there is a distinct separation between sender, recipients and subject
line.
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(In reply to Josiah Bruner [:JosiahOne] (needinfo > CC) from comment #52)
> Created attachment 8507360
> OS X 10.10 Compose Proposal
> Alternatively, I would suggest following what OS X does now, and have full
> lines with the header background the same color as the input area.
It does look nice,
Much prefer Josiah's proposal. Much cleaner but, at least for non-Apple
OS's, it needs a collapsible formatting toolbar.
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Created attachment 8507360
OS X 10.10 Compose Proposal
Alternatively, I would suggest following what OS X does now, and have
full lines with the header background the same color as the input area.
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I am delighted by what I am reading here most recently, and I am a fan
of Richard's mockup, too.
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First of all, I want to thank you for having an issue with the design
*and taking action* on it, it's very much appreciated, and a rare
quality. I actually am a fan of your idea, and think that if done
properly, could balance the "cleaner design" without having such a
radical change.
(In reply to
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Created attachment 8507216
TB31-compose-windows-mockup-improvement-proposal.png
Idea for improvement...
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Title:
Address fiel
As indicated in Bug 1084539 after upgrade to TB 31.2 (Win 7 64bits) the lack of
contrast between the background color of windows and background color of fields
(currently same color) in compose window is the main issue. It make the fields
much more difficult to read and edit and therefore are no
(In reply to Josiah Bruner [:JosiahOne] (needinfo > CC) from comment #49)
> First of all, I want to thank you for having an issue with the design *and
> taking action* on it, it's very much appreciated, and a rare quality. I
> actually am a fan of your idea, and think that if done properly, could
>
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Hello,
i can confirm this. The bugreport
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1042780 is quite informative and
its
possible to find a workaround.
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Thank you for pointing to the bugzilla report. By now, there has been quite
some input over there and the developers have responded, too. Personal
preferences for the "look" may vary. But to me, this is a usability issue:
editable text fields should be recognisable as editable text fields. You c
Someone reported it upstream too, but no responses from developers yet:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1042780
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Seems it may be an intentional UI change for TB 29 onwards?
See 2nd post in this link.
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=2798693
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It's not only the grey input fields, the drop-down menus don't look like
anything anywhere else on the plattform, either. Also, there's an
irritating drop shadow, "raising" the composition toolbar above the
address fields and message underneath. Maybe this is a tribute to
unity8/ubuntu touch-based
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users.
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Public bug reported:
When composing a message, any address field that does not have the
cursor is shown as grey. While this is at first only a cosmetic glitch,
it is also serious usability issue: Usually any field that can be edited
is white and text that can't be edited is simply drawn grey. Now
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