Re: [Desktop_architects] Regarding GNOME usability (and the Linus, Schaller debate)

2007-02-24 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
s" and they don't work. it's been tried many times in many guises. google should turn up information on why. 3) numbered lists are fun, but more so on saturdays. -- Aaron J. Seigo humru othro a kohnu se GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47 B1EA EE75 D6B7 2EB1 A7F1 DB43

Re: [Desktop_architects] Printing dialog and GNOME

2007-02-22 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
i haven't tried it, but i know jono and he's cool so the software MUST be right? ;) but it's not breaking new ground that i can see. -- Aaron J. Seigo humru othro a kohnu se GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47 B1EA EE75 D6B7 2EB1 A7F1 DB43 Full time KDE developer spon

Re: [Desktop_architects] Printing dialog and GNOME

2007-02-20 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
ot; options. a lot of fiddly "accountant" type work all the same. that said, care would need to be taken not to repeat the user level mistake in implementing this. to be honest, i'm not particularly sure how one would. --

Re: [Desktop_architects] [dtl_s_t_m] Adding some background information...

2006-06-14 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
nalogy of the civil engineer building a bridge, personally, but i won't bore you with it here =). but if one pays attention to how a user phrases something, one can often become aware of things we weren't. often because users come up with creative ways of (ab)using tools or have wil

Re: [Desktop_architects] [dtl_s_t_m] Re: [dtl_s_t_m] Adding some background information...

2006-06-14 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
the new contributor. this brings us back to a developer portal =) -- Aaron J. Seigo Undulate Your Wantonness GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47 B1EA EE75 D6B7 2EB1 A7F1 DB43 Full time KDE developer sponsored by Trolltech (http://www.trolltech.com) pgpNgGZiy9XtX.pgp Description: PGP signat

Re: [Desktop_architects] Desktop Meeting in Japan, Jun. 1

2006-06-12 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Monday 12 June 2006 09:00, Mike Hearn wrote: > On 6/12/06, Aaron J. Seigo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Why don't we all go and ask them what the top inhibitors are to > > > migrate to an open source desktop? > > Migrations I've seen (can't

Re: [Desktop_architects] Desktop Meeting in Japan, Jun. 1

2006-06-12 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
le out in the field I hear about issues that have not really been > mentioned here. can you share these with us? -- Aaron J. Seigo Undulate Your Wantonness GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47 B1EA EE75 D6B7 2EB1 A7F1 DB43 Full time KDE developer sponsored by Trolltech (http://www.troll

Re: [Desktop_architects] Desktop Meeting in Japan, Jun. 1

2006-06-10 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
se, with a mailing list, irc channel, website, etc in their preferred langauge(s) they can coordinate and make progress within their own language community quite effectively. -- Aaron J. Seigo Undulate Your Wantonness GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47 B1EA EE75 D6B7 2EB1 A7F1 DB43 Fu

Re: [Desktop_architects] Desktop Meeting in Japan, Jun. 1

2006-06-10 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
rk right for us to be able to add all that "reason to use linux on the desktop" on top of. this group, for me, is about the nuts and bolts and ensuring we're not all working at odds with each other. but the innovation we require will probably happen elsewhere. i'm not even

Re: [Desktop_architects] Desktop Meeting in Japan, Jun. 1

2006-06-09 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
ual more likely to use other open source applications), how they perceive those applications and what the long term (2-5 year) affect on decision making that usage has would be dreamy. realistically, i don't see that coming any time soon. -- Aaron J. Seigo Undulate Your Wantonness GPG Fin

Re: [Desktop_architects] Desktop Linux - architects and developers

2006-03-13 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
t ... i believe that was what was settled on, though i don't have a copy of the announcement draft around anymore for some reason =/ -- Aaron J. Seigo GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47 B1EA EE75 D6B7 2EB1 A7F1 DB43 Full time KDE developer sponsored b

Re: [Desktop_architects] Desktop Linux - architects and developers

2006-03-13 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Monday 13 March 2006 16:57, John Cherry wrote: > September - KDE Developers Conference 2006 - aKademy: Location > not confirmed the location has been decided on and is about to be announced: Dublin, Ireland (in fact, it's already been "leaked" in a developer&#

Re: [Desktop_architects] Summits at Desktop Developers Conferencein Ottawa

2006-03-07 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Monday 06 March 2006 15:37, Robert O'Callahan wrote: > On Fri, 2006-03-03 at 16:15 -0700, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > honestly, i don't even think the X.org devs who are doing this work have > > much of an idea on what app devs want out of it > > Mostly the

Re: [Desktop_architects] Summits at Desktop Developers Conferencein Ottawa

2006-03-03 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
uot; as exhibits in this case ;) so this would likely be useful for that crowd too. so if we were to frame it as a track for advanced user interface concepts that build upon the emerging 3D / acceleration / composition technologies, i'm all in. -- Aaron J. Seigo GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 22

Re: [Desktop_architects] Summits at Desktop Developers Conference in Ottawa

2006-03-03 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
e enough material there for a full track? are there more pressing issues? will i ask any more questions? who knows? ;) -- Aaron J. Seigo GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47 B1EA EE75 D6B7 2EB1 A7F1 DB43 Full time KDE developer sponsored by Trolltech (http://www.trolltech.com) pgp3GvaLHu465.p

Re: [Desktop_architects] Summits at Desktop Developers Conference in Ottawa

2006-03-02 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
desktop stuff again, that there may not be a lot more ground to cover here at this point in time. we could try and keep X's "feet to the fire" so to speak by running this track, but perhaps there are other useful topics? -- Aaron J. Seigo GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47 B

[Desktop_architects] finally, the html!

2006-01-30 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
lly, of course ;) o Get the FreeDesktop.org ball rolling to make the document a reality progress is being made within the GNOME side of things as well, with people within Novell now helping guide things a bit as well as the GNOME accessibility team taking up the charge. this is good news. -- Aar

Re: [Desktop_architects] Applications and pre-installed machines

2006-01-18 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
e very interesting to know if there is any merit to it. -- Aaron J. Seigo GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47 B1EA EE75 D6B7 2EB1 A7F1 DB43 Full time KDE developer sponsored by Trolltech (http://www.trolltech.com) pgpvviz6pH91e.pgp Descrip

Re: [Desktop_architects] Applications and pre-installed machines

2006-01-18 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
without doing a port Adobe is likely reaching a good % of the market who would purchase a Linux-native port today, and all the while "photoshop doesn't run on linux". the best of all worlds when it comes to dissincentivation! ;) -- Aaron J. Seigo GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0

Re: [Desktop_architects] Applications and pre-installed machines

2006-01-17 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
paper drafts... i'm stupidly busy here with 2 multi-day events on my schedule this month =/ i'll be getting to them on the airplane to new zealand at the end of the week unless someone beats me to it. -- Aaron J. Seigo GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47 B1EA EE75 D6B7 2EB

[Desktop_architects] comunity/public/fd.o statements

2006-01-05 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
at works for us all, laying aside our differences in the process to achieve the most ambitious goal we've ever dared tackle: to make the open source desktop a mainstream phenomenon. -- Aaron J. Seigo GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47

Fwd: Re: What is your answer to solve the top inhibitor for the Linuxdesktop adoption? (was Re: [Desktop_architects] Most wantedApplication: Email)

2006-01-03 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
uations personally. based on the "i'm not exactly special" concept, i assume that if i know of a few of them there must be many. -- Aaron J. Seigo GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47 B1EA EE75 D6B7 2EB1 A7F1 DB43 Full time KDE developer sponsored by Trolltech (http://w

Re: What is your answer to solve the top inhibitor for the Linuxdesktop adoption? (was Re: [Desktop_architects] Most wantedApplication: Email)

2006-01-03 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
en trench soldiers doing the same thing is not a particularly efficient way to get the message out in a useful manner. ;) this also happens to be one of the #1 blockers to getting more open source developers (in the traditional sense of the term) on board. it's simply too much of a learnin

Re: What is your answer to solve the top inhibitor for the Linuxdesktop adoption? (was Re: [Desktop_architects] Most wantedApplication: Email)

2006-01-03 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
or "what are the IPC options available and how do i use them from my application?" the real value in such a portal is in the latter sort IMHO. these are the questions i end up being asked time and time again by developers and there is no good place to send them. because the answe

Re: What is your answer to solve the top inhibitor for the Linuxdesktop adoption? (was Re: [Desktop_architects] Most wantedApplication: Email)

2006-01-03 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
gentoo community documentation and the LTDP works so well compared to what we have with developer docu. but that's really just an educated guess, nothing more. -- Aaron J. Seigo GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47 B1EA EE75 D6B7 2EB1 A7F1 DB43 Full time KDE developer sponsored by

Re: What is your answer to solve the top inhibitor for the Linuxdesktop adoption? (was Re: [Desktop_architects] Most wantedApplication: Email)

2006-01-03 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
ably fall upon the shoulders of developers even as it tends to now. -- Aaron J. Seigo GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47 B1EA EE75 D6B7 2EB1 A7F1 DB43 Full time KDE developer sponsored by Trolltech (http://www.trolltech.com) pgpZYNe3FgDq8.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [Desktop_architects] Re: Desktop Services

2005-12-31 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
Vs to found and implement IMHO. trying to rely on the open source desktop projects to cater to every ISV software need without some sort of support from them is a little unrealistic, i fear. -- Aaron J. Seigo GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47 B1EA EE75 D6B7 2EB1 A7F1 DB43 Full

Re: [Desktop_architects] Printing dialog and GNOME

2005-12-31 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
ng it a "web service" is more than a stretch. probably more accurate is saying that it is a kind abuse of WSDL ;) -- Aaron J. Seigo GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47 B1EA EE75 D6B7 2EB1 A7F1 DB43 Full time KDE developer sp

Re: [Desktop_architects] Deskop configuration management

2005-12-27 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
people over and over, and not just neophytes but even people doing deployments and people designing operating systems, it is worthwhile to reconsider the whole approach. > Note that a lot of the problems seen with XDG_DATA_DIRS are actuallly > problems of the menu specification. See no. the

[Desktop_architects] project status with regard to the cross-desktop message drafts

2005-12-27 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
). the other three listed are important supporters from the perspective of giving this thing some real teeth. -- Aaron J. Seigo GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47 B1EA EE75 D6B7 2EB1 A7F1 DB43 Full time KDE developer sponsored by Trolltech (http://www.trolltech.com) pgppVh5TFlT5x.

Re: [Desktop_architects] Deskop configuration management

2005-12-27 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
r migration? - migration mark two. many kde applications use spaces or slashes in their key names. this means lots of changes in code and lots of value migrations. ergo items like "All characters with exception of the slash and the space are allowed for preferences." are not fun. --

Re: [Desktop_architects] Desktop Architects reference site at OSDL

2005-12-23 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
the road. > I want to wish everyone a very Merry Christmas as we reflect back on a > really good year for the desktop Linux community. likewise.. have a great holiday season everyone! =) -- Aaron J. Seigo GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47 B1EA EE75 D6B7 2EB1 A7F1 DB43 Full tim

Re: [Desktop_architects] Xgl controversy

2005-12-23 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
re useful in the long term? -- Aaron J. Seigo GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47 B1EA EE75 D6B7 2EB1 A7F1 DB43 Full time KDE developer sponsored by Trolltech (http://www.trolltech.com) pgpkkJ4jAypnD.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Desk

Re: [Desktop_architects] Xgl controversy

2005-12-23 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
hin Novell or if this is a one-off, an experiment or what-have-you. i was encouraged by how SUSE was opening up (YAST, OpenSUSE). either way, it's obviously your choice and i am in no position to play judge to your decisions. but knowing who i'm working with makes my decision making ea

Re: [Desktop_architects] Xgl controversy

2005-12-22 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
that improve usability; small things like live thumbnails of windows and their contents, extra-window painting, organic (versus mechanical) window and widget movement they can make a measurable difference for usability and user comfort. -- Aaron J. Seigo GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47 B1

Re: [Desktop_architects] Most wanted Application: Email

2005-12-21 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
ple need (if that is indeed a problem) is the cough; the issues identified at Portland are the disease. do we really want to address symptoms? -- Aaron J. Seigo GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47 B1EA EE75 D6B7 2EB1 A7F1 DB43 Full time KDE developer sponsored by Trolltech (http://www.trol

[Desktop_architects] new draft of public and community messages

2005-12-16 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
most ambitious goal we've ever dared tackle: to make the open source desktop a mainstream phenomenon. -- Aaron J. Seigo GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47 B1EA EE75 D6B7 2EB1 A7F1 DB43 Full time KDE developer sponsored by Trolltec

Re: [Desktop_architects] community / public / fd.o drafts

2005-12-16 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Friday 16 December 2005 03:18, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > so here's the most recent drafts of these documents i've been working on.. btw, here's my thinking of how to proceed: if by monday end-of-day there is no further feedback, i'll just consider that to be a sign o

[Desktop_architects] community / public / fd.o drafts

2005-12-16 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
nd ISVs will be an important metric. But the ultimate measure of success will be found in the enjoyment and energy levels of those participating in FreeDesktop.org as it is from that wellspring that the momentum we are all looking for will emerge. -- Aaron J. Seigo GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0

Re: [Desktop_architects] Proposal for change to administration

2005-12-15 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
oday's email traffic on the list. -- Aaron J. Seigo GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47 B1EA EE75 D6B7 2EB1 A7F1 DB43 Full time KDE developer sponsored by Trolltech (http://www.trolltech.com) pgpf1oUKs0iRu.pgp Description: PG

Re: [Desktop_architects] List moderation

2005-12-15 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
e requested here have not been taken or the noise continues to mount, at that point perhaps we should consider taking some more direct action. -- Aaron J. Seigo GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47 B1EA EE75 D6B7 2EB1 A7F1 DB43 Full time KDE developer sponsored by Trolltech (http://w