Re: [Desktop_architects] ELF scoping problem

If you were to dlopen your libs, you would solve this by passing the RTLD_LOCAL flag, right? I admit that I don't know how to do this when you don't use dlopen but directly link against the lib instead. Cheers, Waldo Intel Corporation - Channel Platform Solutions Group - Hillsboro, Oregon >

Re: [Desktop_architects] FW: follow-up on OSDL DTL Documentation Framework

06 3:39 PM >To: Bastian, Waldo; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; fedora-docs- >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: FW: follow-up on OSDL DTL Documentation Framework > >f-docs-l folks, please read below for the context of this message. > >On Wed, 2006-12-06 at 14:44 -0800, Bastian, Waldo wrote: >&

[Desktop_architects] FW: follow-up on OSDL DTL Documentation Framework

?) Cheers, Waldo Intel Corporation - Channel Platform Solutions Group - Hillsboro, Oregon -Original Message- From: Karsten Wade [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 6:51 PM To: Bastian, Waldo Subject: follow-up on OSDL DTL Documentation Framework Waldo: I was forwarded

[Desktop_architects] H&R Block: Looking at Linux desktop to keep it simple

http://www.forbes.com/archive/forbes/2006/0918/102_3.html Despite chintzier budgets, the new barbarians can reap a fortune on this fourth wave. Once companies start rebuilding their back-end data centers other changes become possible. H&R Block (nyse: HRB

[Desktop_architects] Third party packaging

People interested in third party (non distro-specific) packaging may find the following discussion on lsb-discuss interesting: http://lists.freestandards.org/pipermail/lsb-discuss/2006-October/003085.html   See http://lists.freestandards.org/mailman/listinfo/lsb-discuss for subscription

Re: [Desktop_architects] REMINDER: OSDL DTL Tech Board:Documentation Framework (Tue, Oct 17)

>On Tuesday 17 October 2006 18:41, Dominik Haumann wrote: >> On Tuesday 17 October 2006 16:57, Bastian, Waldo wrote: >> > About to start! >> >> I wasn't able to join the channel in time. Are there any notes or irc >logs >> I can read? > >I've

[Desktop_architects] REMINDER: OSDL DTL Tech Board: Documentation Framework (Tue, Oct 17)

About to start! Waldo Bastian Linux Client Architect - Client Linux Foundation Technology Channel Platform Solutions Group Intel Corporation - http://www.intel.com/opensource OSDL DTL Tech Board Chairman >-Original Message- >From: Bastian, Waldo >Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 200

[Desktop_architects] OSDL DTL Tech Board: Documentation Framework (Tue, Oct 17)

Where: channel #dtl on the FreeNode IRC network (See http://freenode.net/irc_servers.shtml ) When: Tue, Oct 17, 8:00am Pacific, 11:00am Eastern, 17:00 Paris, 11:00pm PRC Who: People interested in Linux and Open Source documentation for developers The OSDL DTL Technical Board is organizing an IRC

[Desktop_architects] REMINDER: OSDL DTL Tech board on freedesktop.org specs - Thu, Aug 10

Thursday, 10 August 2006, 07:00am to 08:00am PT Tollfree: 1-800-211-0633 Toll: 1-719-867-0485 Passcode: 942698 Agenda: freedesktop.org specs - Status update - Base Directory spec - Desktop Entry spec - Menu spec - Icon Theme spec - XSettings spec - ??? - How to improve the process

Re: [Desktop_architects] OSDL DTL Tech board on Portland - Thu, Aug 3

sage- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:portland- >[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bastian, Waldo >Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 11:41 AM >To: desktop_architects@lists.osdl.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: [Portland] OSDL DTL Tech board on Portland - Thu, Aug 3 > >People interested in th

Re: [Desktop_architects] OSDL DTL Tech board on freedesktop.org specs - Thu, Aug 10

>On jeu, 2006-08-03 at 14:34 -0700, Bastian, Waldo wrote: >> People interested in freedesktop.org specifications are hereby invited >> to join next week's DTL Technical Workgroup conference call on this >> topic. I have attached the preliminary agenda below. If y

[Desktop_architects] OSDL DTL Tech board on freedesktop.org specs - Thu, Aug 10

People interested in freedesktop.org specifications are hereby invited to join next week's DTL Technical Workgroup conference call on this topic. I have attached the preliminary agenda below. If you have suggestions for additional agenda items, please let me know and I will update the agenda accord

[Desktop_architects] FW: IRC Meeting #2 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on Tuesday, 1/Aug/06, 12:00UTC-GMT/Zulu: Font availability; font licensing; selecting fonts

FYI Waldo Bastian Linux Client Architect - Client Linux Foundation Technology Channel Platform Solutions Group Intel Corporation - http://www.intel.com/go/linux OSDL DTL Tech Board Chairman -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Simos Xenitellis

[Desktop_architects] OSDL DTL Tech board on Portland - Thu, Aug 3

People interested in the Portland initiative are hereby invited to join next weeks DTL Technical Workgroup conference call on Portland. In the call we will discuss the upcoming xdg-utils 1.0 release, explain the test suite and what you can do to help with testing and look ahead to the next steps fo

[Desktop_architects] DTL tech board - Upcoming meetings

The DTL tech board will start to follow a meeting format for its conference calls that resembles the Desktop Architects Meetings. Meetings will be focused on a single technical topic and non-DTL members with expertise on the topic in question and other stakeholders will be invited to join. Meeting

Re: [Desktop_architects] Desktop Meeting in Japan, Jun. 1

Takaaki Higuchi wrote: >Bastian, Waldo wrote: >> The problem with the disconnect between the asian markets and current >> open source development communities is that in the above analysis these >> markets classify as a whole in the "free rider" category

Re: [Desktop_architects] Desktop Meeting in Japan, Jun. 1

>In Inkscape I frequently make the case that our customer and audience is >*not* the ordinary user. Unlike commercial software, where an ordinary >user equals some dollar value, with open source that user is just a free >rider. Rather, value comes from the users who participate in and >contribute

[Desktop_architects] Portland status presentation

FYI   Waldo Bastian Linux Client Architect - Client Linux Foundation Technology Channel Platform Solutions Group Intel Corporation - http://www.intel.com/go/linux OSDL DTL Tech Board Chairman   Portland@DAM2.odp Description: Portland@DAM2.odp _

[Desktop_architects] Phonon: Multimedia in KDE 4

Overview of the new high-level multimedia API (Phonon) in development for KDE4: http://dot.kde.org/1146140474/ Cheers, Waldo -- Linux Client Architect - Channel Platform Solutions Group - Intel Corporation ___ Desktop_architects mailing list Desktop_a

[Desktop_architects] DAM II - Preparation Template

As with the previous Desktop Architects Meeting a presentation template has been made that will help us to make more efficient use of our meeting time. We would like to ask all participants as well as those that aren’t able to attend the actual meeting to prepare a presentation based on the

[Desktop_architects] Invitation to DAM-II preparation conference call

This is an invitation to participate in the first preparation conference call for the OSDL Desktop Architects Meeting II (DAM II), May 8-9, Mainz (near Frankfurt), Germany. A second preparation conference call will be scheduled for Thursday, April 27th, 8am Pacific / 17:00 Paris. The latest info

[Desktop_architects] Desktop Architect Meeting 2 - May 8-9, Frankfurt, Germany

Hi All, We are on a tight timescale to get the second desktop architects meeting off the ground. I have included the current agenda below. Although we have invited a significant number of people already, if you know of people who might be interested in attending and who would be relevant for any o

[Desktop_architects] Portland Technology Preview available for download

The joined OSDL/freedesktop.org Portland initiative that was started at the OSDL Desktop Architects Meeting last december has now a Technology Preview available of the set of common programming interfaces that help Linux desktop applications integrate with the desktop of the user's choice. Portland

[Desktop_architects] DAM-II: Agenda proposal & request for feedback

OSDL DTL has planned the second desktop architects meeting for May 8-9, in Frankfurt, Germany. (It was originally planned for Cannes, but this way it will be easier to combine with LinuxTag) Details and invitations will follow later. Below you will find the list of topics we would like to propose

RE: [Desktop_architects] Desktop Linux - architects and developers

>On Monday 13 March 2006 16:57, John Cherry wrote: >> September - KDE Developers Conference 2006 - aKademy: Location >> not confirmed > >the location has been decided on and is about to be announced: Dublin, >Ireland > >(in fact, it's already been "leaked" in a developer's blog ;) Has

[Desktop_architects] Preview available of OpenDocument sample documents

FYI, if you know of any projects working on OpenDocument support you may want to bring the following to their attention: The Networking and Mobile Computing Laboratory at the School of EECS of University of Central Florida, in close cooperation with Intel Corporation, is working to create an exten

RE: [Desktop_architects] Summits at Desktop Developers Conferencein Ottawa

>On Thursday 02 March 2006 23:19, Alex Graveley wrote: >> There is a still a lot of discussion and work to be done, beyond just X. >>Namely, as an application developer, what API do I use to access these >> cool 3D features? > >yes, this is an interesting question. i'm not sure we're quite th

RE: [Desktop_architects] Summits at Desktop Developers Conferencein Ottawa

I think what would be an interesting discussion is how 3D can be used to improve the user experience, not just in terms of improving the visual apearance, but in terms of functionality that allows users to be make more effective use of their computer. There are some good use cases around accessibil

RE: [Desktop_architects] Summits at Desktop Developers Conference inOttawa

uch appreciate it if everyone on this list would give a quick reply with its thoughts on the proposal below. Cheers, Waldo >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:desktop_architects- >[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bastian, Waldo >Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 3:

[Desktop_architects] Summits at Desktop Developers Conference in Ottawa

As a result of desktop architects meeting in december of last year, OSDL DTL is assisting with the organisation of three dedicated summits around printing, wireless and power management in April 2006. In order to maintain the momentum that has been created with these efforts OSDL DTL is currently w

RE: [Desktop_architects] The experience of an ISV

>On Feb 14, 06 14:50:06 -0500, Jim Gettys wrote: >> Xtst is a local only "solution". As such, it doesn't help LTSP. > >IMHO it is not a solution at all. It is an ugly workaround, a kludge. > >> There are (at least) two ways to solve this problem, that can/should be >> discussed on the xdg list: >>

RE: [Desktop_architects] Desktop linux talk slides

>Bastian, Waldo wrote: >> Wrt media codecs: Fluendo is offering free (beer) patent-licensed codecs >> for gstreamer. Mostly free as in speech as well, the source for the MP3 >> codec is available under the MIT license, but there are some >> restrictions due to the

RE: [Desktop_architects] Desktop linux talk slides

Wrt media codecs: Fluendo is offering free (beer) patent-licensed codecs for gstreamer. Mostly free as in speech as well, the source for the MP3 codec is available under the MIT license, but there are some restrictions due to the patent license. See http://www.fluendo.com/press/releases/PR-2005-05.

RE: [Desktop_architects] The experience of an ISV

The Portland initiative is doing exactly that. The two critical steps in the process are "code to implement them" and not getting lost in discussions about nirvana. We are working out the details on how to get from where we are today to nirvana with a focus on solving the needs of ISV sooner rather

RE: [Desktop_architects] The experience of an ISV

Great feedback. Most of this seems to be in line with tasks and prioritization on http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/PortlandIntegrationTasks Can you expand on the use case for "Interface with e-mail client"? Is there specific functionality you are looking for beyond "start an e-mail composer for th

RE: [Desktop_architects] Applications and pre-installed machines

>> Why not simply ask the ISVs? Why doesn't OSDL start another survey which >> asks all the big and small ISVs what the need to port their applications >> to Linux? Okay I'll start a list of questions for such a survey at >> "http://wyoguide.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/OSDL_survey_for_ISVs";. >>

[Desktop_architects] HP to sell Linux PCs across Latin America | CNET News.com

On the topic of PCs with Linux pre-installed: http://news.com.com/HP+to+sell+Linux+PCs+across+Latin+America/2100-7344_ 3-6028325.html ___ Desktop_architects mailing list Desktop_architects@lists.osdl.org https://lists.osdl.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop_a

RE: [Desktop_architects] Applications and pre-installed machines

>It would be a lot easier to convince Adobe to do a Linux port if they >thought the could get incremental revenue from animation artists doing >work on Linux render farms. Maybe Adobe doesn't have enough to win here. Either the animation artists are already using Linux and managing fine without Ad

RE: [Desktop_architects] Applications and pre-installed machines

>On Wed, 2006-01-18 at 09:57 -0800, Bastian, Waldo wrote: >> >The one business issue that is going to be hard to overcome >> >for the general market is the vast differences in market segment >> >sizes. >> > >> >Lets use the numbers of >

RE: [Desktop_architects] Applications and pre-installed machines

>The one business issue that is going to be hard to overcome >for the general market is the vast differences in market segment >sizes. > >Lets use the numbers of > 90% Windows >5% Mac >5% Linux > > Now the Mac market segment is a little di

RE: [Desktop_architects] Applications and pre-installed machines

>The list seems fine. I hesitate at the "open source the linux >version of my app", >though; the source tree should be the same for both Windows and Linux >versions, so open sourcing one means open sourcing the other. >Best leave that question out. Wouldn't it be worth leaving it in in order to

RE: [Desktop_architects] Applications and pre-installed machines

>> So to take this to the next step, what specifically (other than just >> marketshare) is stopping Adobe and Autodesk from porting to Linux, and >> what is stopping system providers from pre-installing it on new PCs? >> I imagine DTL has access to contacts at each of these companies and >> could g

RE: What is your answer to solve the top inhibitor for the Linuxdesktop adoption? (was Re: [Desktop_architects] Most wantedApplication: Email)

>On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 05:11:27PM -0800, Bastian, Waldo wrote: >> >Yes, the concensus was that it would be difficult to host a developer >> >resource like this with any of the Linux distributions and/or desktop >> >organizations. However, the distros and

RE: What is your answer to solve the top inhibitor for the Linuxdesktop adoption? (was Re: [Desktop_architects] Most wantedApplication: Email)

>Yes, the concensus was that it would be difficult to host a developer >resource like this with any of the Linux distributions and/or desktop >organizations. However, the distros and desktop organizations have the >content that is needed to make the portal meaningful. I think the solution to that

RE: [Desktop_architects] Deskop configuration management

>On Tuesday 27 December 2005 11:45, you wrote: >> > - XDG_DATA_DIRS. this has already caused problems for us with the menu >> >spec in that it can't be changed within a session, >> >> Why would you want that? > >because they are set wrong. That's the cause that needs fixing then. The rest is fixi

RE: [Desktop_architects] Deskop configuration management

> - XDG_DATA_DIRS. this has already caused problems for us with the menu >spec in that it can't be changed within a session, Why would you want that? >can't be changed by >installing a new desktop (think of multiple desktops on the same system) Each desktop startup sequence can adjust it accordi

RE: [Desktop_architects] Presentation slides - with attached templates

>On Monday 05 December 2005 22:32, Till Kamppeter wrote: >>      --> >>       Use of GhostScript for PostScript printers is not standard with >>       linuxprinting.org. It is an exception, > >This is not my impression any more. It happens far more often than is >healthy for my inner balance ;-) >

RE: [Fwd: Re: [Desktop_architects] Presentation slides - with attachedtemplates]

>Till Kamppeter wrote: >> Michael Sweet wrote: >>> >>> 2. Use the supplied APIs to get the available drivers and >>>devices. Right now each distro seems to be maintaining >>>their own (insert your buzzword) database of printer >>>drivers rather than asking CUPS for a li