Re: [OFBiz] Users - Accounting Extension (GL, etc) Now In Beta

2007-11-25 Thread David E Jones
On Nov 25, 2007, at 12:07 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More commonly, there is one post for the sum of the inventory items sold. However, this method offers some flexibility if you want to split up cost of goods or maybe you have separate inventory accounts for different inventory types.

Re: [OFBiz] Users - Accounting Extension (GL, etc) Now In Beta

2007-11-25 Thread David E Jones
Yes, that is correct, I mis-wrote. The origin "document" (record is probably a better term) triggers/ causes the transaction and not each entry in the transaction. -David On Nov 25, 2007, at 1:59 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: David, after reviewing the AcctgTrans and AcctgTransEntry entit

RE: [OFBiz] Users - Accounting Extension (GL, etc) Now In Beta

2007-11-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Nice find BJ. -Original Message- From: BJ Freeman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 11:32 AM To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org Subject: Re: [OFBiz] Users - Accounting Extension (GL, etc) Now In Beta before I put my two cents in I have searching the Internet and reading

Re: [OFBiz] Users - Accounting Extension (GL, etc) Now In Beta

2007-11-25 Thread BJ Freeman
or different inventory > types. For that reason, I like it. > > Skip > > > > -Original Message- > From: Jacopo Cappellato [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 1:00 AM > To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org > Subject: Re: [OFBiz] Users -

RE: [OFBiz] Users - Accounting Extension (GL, etc) Now In Beta

2007-11-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
different inventory types. For that reason, I like it. Skip -Original Message- From: Jacopo Cappellato [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 1:00 AM To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org Subject: Re: [OFBiz] Users - Accounting Extension (GL, etc) Now In Beta David, after reviewing the

Re: [OFBiz] Users - Accounting Extension (GL, etc) Now In Beta

2007-11-25 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Hi Jacopo, De : "Jacopo Cappellato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Jacques Le Roux wrote: > > > > Two persons (former clients of mine) seems to be interested to work on the > > accouting module on their own free time. One has a solid > > background as manager and the other as programmer. > > I will not w

Re: [OFBiz] Users - Accounting Extension (GL, etc) Now In Beta

2007-11-25 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
David, after reviewing the AcctgTrans and AcctgTransEntry entity I've noticed that fixedAssetId, inventoryItemId, physicalInventoryId, partyId, roleTypeId, invoiceId, paymentId, finAccountTransId, shipmentId, receiptId, workEffortId are in the AcctgTrans entity, while partyId and productId ar

Re: [OFBiz] Users - Accounting Extension (GL, etc) Now In Beta

2007-11-25 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
Jacques Le Roux wrote: Two persons (former clients of mine) seems to be interested to work on the accouting module on their own free time. One has a solid background as manager and the other as programmer. I will not work myself on this task but I will try as much as I'm able to to put them o

Re: [OFBiz] Users - Accounting Extension (GL, etc) Now In Beta

2007-11-24 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
Jacques Le Roux wrote: De : "Jacopo Cappellato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> associated with a commit on some entity generates an exception, is the associated transaction rolled back? For example, if a SECA was tied to an Invoice commit and that code caused an exception, would the Invoice commit be roll

RE: [OFBiz] Users - Accounting Extension (GL, etc) Now In Beta

2007-11-24 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
@ofbiz.apache.org Subject: Re: [OFBiz] Users - Accounting Extension (GL, etc) Now In Beta On Nov 24, 2007, at 1:05 PM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: > David E Jones wrote: >> On Nov 24, 2007, at 9:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> I am thinking about the implementation of this. >>&g

Re: [OFBiz] Users - Accounting Extension (GL, etc) Now In Beta

2007-11-24 Thread Jacques Le Roux
This begins to sounds quite right :o) Jacques De : "David E Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > On Nov 24, 2007, at 1:05 PM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: > > > David E Jones wrote: > >> On Nov 24, 2007, at 9:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>> I am thinking about the implementation of this. > >>> > >>

Re: [OFBiz] Users - Accounting Extension (GL, etc) Now In Beta

2007-11-24 Thread Jacques Le Roux
De : "Jacopo Cappellato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > associated with a commit on some entity generates an exception, is the > > associated transaction rolled back? For example, if a SECA was tied to an > > Invoice commit and that code caused an exception, would the Invoice commit > > be rolled back to

Re: [OFBiz] Users - Accounting Extension (GL, etc) Now In Beta

2007-11-24 Thread Jacques Le Roux
De : "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [...] > > I have zero understanding of the needs of European accounting requirements > (if they are different) and the differences with U.S. ones. Two persons (former clients of mine) seems to be interested to work on the accouting module on their own

Re: [OFBiz] Users - Accounting Extension (GL, etc) Now In Beta

2007-11-24 Thread David E Jones
On Nov 24, 2007, at 1:05 PM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: David E Jones wrote: On Nov 24, 2007, at 9:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am thinking about the implementation of this. As I mentioned, I am strongly motivated to make each entry in AcctgTrans/AcctgTransEntry an atomic part of the unde

Re: [OFBiz] Users - Accounting Extension (GL, etc) Now In Beta

2007-11-24 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
David E Jones wrote: On Nov 24, 2007, at 9:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am thinking about the implementation of this. As I mentioned, I am strongly motivated to make each entry in AcctgTrans/AcctgTransEntry an atomic part of the underlying reason for the enter, say an Invoice creation.

Re: [OFBiz] Users - Accounting Extension (GL, etc) Now In Beta

2007-11-24 Thread David E Jones
On Nov 24, 2007, at 11:20 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And I learned something too. Sync calls are part of the begin/commit transaction and async calls are not. Thanks for the feedback. There is one exception to this: sync remote calls are not part of the same transaction right now, even

Re: [OFBiz] Users - Accounting Extension (GL, etc) Now In Beta

2007-11-24 Thread David E Jones
On Nov 24, 2007, at 9:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am thinking about the implementation of this. As I mentioned, I am strongly motivated to make each entry in AcctgTrans/AcctgTransEntry an atomic part of the underlying reason for the enter, say an Invoice creation. If the AcctgTrans/Ac

Re: [OFBiz] Users - Accounting Extension (GL, etc) Now In Beta

2007-11-24 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
eople can just comment them out or uncomment them if they don't want or do want GL accounting done. Skip -Original Message- From: Jacopo Cappellato [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 9:19 AM To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org Subject: Re: [OFBiz] Users - Accounting Ext

RE: [OFBiz] Users - Accounting Extension (GL, etc) Now In Beta

2007-11-24 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
they don't want or do want GL accounting done. Skip -Original Message- From: Jacopo Cappellato [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 9:19 AM To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org Subject: Re: [OFBiz] Users - Accounting Extension (GL, etc) Now In Beta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

Re: [OFBiz] Users - Accounting Extension (GL, etc) Now In Beta

2007-11-24 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am thinking about the implementation of this. As I mentioned, I am strongly motivated to make each entry in AcctgTrans/AcctgTransEntry an atomic part of the underlying reason for the enter, say an Invoice creation. If the AcctgTrans/AcctgTransEntry creation fails, the

RE: [OFBiz] Users - Accounting Extension (GL, etc) Now In Beta

2007-11-24 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am thinking about the implementation of this. As I mentioned, I am strongly motivated to make each entry in AcctgTrans/AcctgTransEntry an atomic part of the underlying reason for the enter, say an Invoice creation. If the AcctgTrans/AcctgTransEntry creation fails, the Invoice creation should be

RE: [OFBiz] Users - Accounting Extension (GL, etc) Now In Beta

2007-11-24 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message- From: David E Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 4:20 AM To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org Subject: Re: [OFBiz] Users - Accounting Extension (GL, etc) Now In Beta It sounds here like you are confusing a transaction (AcctgTrans) with a journal

Re: [OFBiz] Users - Accounting Extension (GL, etc) Now In Beta

2007-11-24 Thread David E Jones
nes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 6:20 PM To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org Subject: Re: [OFBiz] Users - Accounting Extension (GL, etc) Now In Beta Some notes on journals (GlJournal), transactions (AcctgTrans), transaction entries (AcctgTransEntry), etc: 1. they are opt

Re: [OFBiz] Users - Accounting Extension (GL, etc) Now In Beta

2007-11-23 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
old), I am betting we are disagreeing over semantic issues. Yes, it seems to me too a semantic issue only. Jacopo Skip -Original Message- From: David E Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 6:20 PM To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org Subject: Re: [OFBiz] Users - Acc

RE: [OFBiz] Users - Accounting Extension (GL, etc) Now In Beta

2007-11-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
TECTED] Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 6:20 PM To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org Subject: Re: [OFBiz] Users - Accounting Extension (GL, etc) Now In Beta Some notes on journals (GlJournal), transactions (AcctgTrans), transaction entries (AcctgTransEntry), etc: 1. they are optional, transactions do not have

Re: [OFBiz] Users - Accounting Extension (GL, etc) Now In Beta

2007-11-23 Thread David E Jones
course up to you, but all the pieces that I have described are provided for in the data model with the possible exception of supportingDocumentId. Skip -Original Message- From: Jacopo Cappellato [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 2:40 AM To: dev@ofbiz.apache.o

RE: [OFBiz] Users - Accounting Extension (GL, etc) Now In Beta

2007-11-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
exception of supportingDocumentId. Skip -Original Message- From: Jacopo Cappellato [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 2:40 AM To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org Subject: Re: [OFBiz] Users - Accounting Extension (GL, etc) Now In Beta David, all, I'm really interested in kno

Re: [OFBiz] Users - Accounting Extension (GL, etc) Now In Beta

2007-11-23 Thread David E Jones
On Nov 23, 2007, at 3:39 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: David, all, I'm really interested in knowing more about the design for journal management. I did some research (existing data model and services) and it seems to me that: * a journal (GlJournal) is used to group together a set of ac

Re: [OFBiz] Users - Accounting Extension (GL, etc) Now In Beta

2007-11-23 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
David, all, I'm really interested in knowing more about the design for journal management. I did some research (existing data model and services) and it seems to me that: * a journal (GlJournal) is used to group together a set of accounting transactions (AcctgTrans) * a journal can be used t

RE: [OFBiz] Users - Accounting Extension (GL, etc) Now In Beta

2007-11-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message- From: David E Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 11:31 PM To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org Subject: Re: [OFBiz] Users - Accounting Extension (GL, etc) Now In Beta On Nov 23, 2007, at 12:02 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I have some str

Re: [OFBiz] Users - Accounting Extension (GL, etc) Now In Beta

2007-11-22 Thread David E Jones
On Nov 23, 2007, at 12:02 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have some strong feelings about how Si has done this though. My primary concern is that some organizations prefer to post to the G/L in real time and others prefer to do batch review/post. I hope we can do something like have a pr

RE: [OFBiz] Users - Accounting Extension (GL, etc) Now In Beta

2007-11-22 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
nes. Skip -Original Message- From: Jacopo Cappellato [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 10:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; dev@ofbiz.apache.org Subject: Re: [OFBiz] Users - Accounting Extension (GL, etc) Now In Beta Hi Jim, (and others interested in helping with the impleme

Re: [OFBiz] Users - Accounting Extension (GL, etc) Now In Beta

2007-11-22 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
Hi Jim, (and others interested in helping with the implementation of the accounting component) can I add you to the list of "people interested" in this page: http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/New+Features+Roadmap+-+Draft ? If you (or others in this list) are willing to help with the imple