Re: Working together. was: plans are nice, but what then?

2009-10-27 Thread Ean Schuessler
Jacques Le Roux wrote: > Is JGit reliable (BTW I work mostly on Windows...) ? Its apparently reliable enough to serve as the basis for Eclipse GIT support. I haven't used it in production. -- Ean Schuessler, CTO e...@brainfood.com 214-720-0700 x 315 Brainfood, Inc. http://www.brainfood.com

Re: Working together. was: plans are nice, but what then?

2009-10-25 Thread Jacques Le Roux
I will also try TortoiseGIt and integration in MS File explorer Jacques From: "Jacques Le Roux" Is JGit reliable (BTW I work mostly on Windows...) ? Thanks Jacques From: "Ean Schuessler" Raul Sieberath wrote: So, there are Git plug-ins for eclipse. They can use the git executables and sc

Re: Working together. was: plans are nice, but what then?

2009-10-25 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Is JGit reliable (BTW I work mostly on Windows...) ? Thanks Jacques From: "Ean Schuessler" Raul Sieberath wrote: So, there are Git plug-ins for eclipse. They can use the git executables and scripts or it can implement in java. Which is very interesting, actually. JGit is an implementation

Re: Working together. was: plans are nice, but what then?

2009-10-24 Thread Tim Ruppert
That is a fantastic idea - I guess it'd be super easy to scale the datastore then right? Cheers, Ruppert On Oct 24, 2009, at 1:35 PM, Ean Schuessler wrote: Raul Sieberath wrote: So, there are Git plug-ins for eclipse. They can use the git executables and scripts or it can implement in java.

Re: Working together. was: plans are nice, but what then?

2009-10-24 Thread Ean Schuessler
Raul Sieberath wrote: So, there are Git plug-ins for eclipse. They can use the git executables and scripts or it can implement in java. Which is very interesting, actually. JGit is an implementation of GIT in Java under the BSD license. I've been interested for some time in turning this into

Re: Working together. was: plans are nice, but what then?

2009-10-23 Thread Raul Sieberath
Pierre, actually git does not have a server installation. It does not have server daemon, and it is not necessary. Git in a collection of programs and scripts. They implemented in c what need to me fast and the rest is perl or python. I do not remember right now. Anyway, to understand the reason

Re: Working together. was: plans are nice, but what then?

2009-10-23 Thread Pierre Smits
Hi Raul, So if I understand your posting correctly you use a git-server in your own development environment and perhaps a plugin in eclipse? Regards, Pierre 2009/10/23 Raul Sieberath > Jacques, > > 1 - Everyone has the whole history of development, what also is good > for backup. > 2 - It is d

Re: Working together. was: plans are nice, but what then?

2009-10-22 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Thanks Raul, It helped me to understand the process, and yes this seems like an interesting process indeed Jacques From: "Raul Sieberath" Jacques, 1 - Everyone has the whole history of development, what also is good for backup. 2 - It is distributed. This means there is no central reposito

Re: Working together. was: plans are nice, but what then?

2009-10-22 Thread Ryan Foster
I really was trying not to say anything here, first because I do not wish to add any fuel to the fire, and secondly because this conversation did not personally concern me. However, I fail see any circumstance when a personal conversation is "very much bad form". Isn't the opposite genera

Re: Working together. was: plans are nice, but what then?

2009-10-22 Thread Adam Heath
Tim Ruppert wrote: > Just so everyone is on the up and up, Hans and I are offline reconciling > _both_ "attacks" and will figure a way forward. Thanks for the help and > the concern. Offline? Why? This incident occurred in public, so should be resolved in public. Private emails, private phone

Re: Working together. was: plans are nice, but what then?

2009-10-22 Thread Tim Ruppert
Thanks Raul - I have to admit that I like it and am happy to give it a +1 from over here. Cheers, Ruppert On Oct 22, 2009, at 4:05 PM, Raul Sieberath wrote: Jacques, 1 - Everyone has the whole history of development, what also is good for backup. 2 - It is distributed. This means there is

Re: Working together. was: plans are nice, but what then?

2009-10-22 Thread Raul Sieberath
Jacques, 1 - Everyone has the whole history of development, what also is good for backup. 2 - It is distributed. This means there is no central repository. No central repository means that we do not need commiters as we need with SVN. However, the community still have the people they trust.

Re: Working together. was: plans are nice, but what then?

2009-10-22 Thread David E Jones
On Oct 22, 2009, at 3:26 PM, Adam Heath wrote: Tim Ruppert wrote: That's a pretty interesting option and I'm sure one that you've put forward many times by now. Is this something that can be supported by the ASF infrastructure or is that something we'd have to provide / do differently on t

Re: Working together. was: plans are nice, but what then?

2009-10-22 Thread Adam Heath
Tim Ruppert wrote: > Just so everyone is on the up and up, Hans and I are offline reconciling > _both_ "attacks" and will figure a way forward. Thanks for the help and > the concern. That's just it, I only saw one attack. :|

Re: Working together. was: plans are nice, but what then?

2009-10-22 Thread David E Jones
Well, there's the apology you requested Adam: 'reconciling _both_ "attacks"' -David On Oct 22, 2009, at 3:25 PM, Tim Ruppert wrote: Just so everyone is on the up and up, Hans and I are offline reconciling _both_ "attacks" and will figure a way forward. Thanks for the help and the conc

Re: Working together. was: plans are nice, but what then?

2009-10-22 Thread Adam Heath
Tim Ruppert wrote: > That's a pretty interesting option and I'm sure one that you've put > forward many times by now. Is this something that can be supported by > the ASF infrastructure or is that something we'd have to provide / do > differently on top of the existing workflow to put into place?

Re: Working together. was: plans are nice, but what then?

2009-10-22 Thread Tim Ruppert
Just so everyone is on the up and up, Hans and I are offline reconciling _both_ "attacks" and will figure a way forward. Thanks for the help and the concern. Cheers, Ruppert On Oct 22, 2009, at 3:19 PM, Adam Heath wrote: David E Jones wrote: I am saddened by the tone of some recent messa

Re: Working together. was: plans are nice, but what then?

2009-10-22 Thread Adam Heath
David E Jones wrote: > I am saddened by the tone of some recent messages to you from Tim and > certain others at Hotwax, and I'm glad you are stepping up and > responding well and being a peacemaker to help hold together the > community that drives this project. I would almost go so far as to say

Re: Working together. was: plans are nice, but what then?

2009-10-22 Thread Raul Sieberath
GIT is really a very good tool. I use it locally and for other projects. However, it does change the work flow of development. My 2 cents Raul On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 01:14:57 -0500 Ean Schuessler wrote: > Adrian Crum wrote: > > I share some of the frustration Tim expressed, but at the same time >

Re: Working together. was: plans are nice, but what then?

2009-10-22 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Thanks for comment Raul, How does it change the workflow, what does it changes ? Could you elaborate a bit more please ? I have read on Apache MLs that some persons are against using Git because, they say, it's not good for collaboration. Their arguments is to say that, contrary as Subversion g

Re: Working together. was: plans are nice, but what then?

2009-10-22 Thread Joe Eckard
On Oct 22, 2009, at 11:49 AM, Raul Sieberath wrote: GIT is really a very good tool. I use it locally and for other projects. However, it does change the work flow of development. My 2 cents Raul I agree - we use GIT internally for everything except OFBiz. Also, I would add a preemptive +1

Re: Working together. was: plans are nice, but what then?

2009-10-22 Thread Raul Sieberath
GIT is really a very good tool. I use it locally and for other projects. However, it does change the work flow of development. My 2 cents Raul On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 01:14:57 -0500 Ean Schuessler wrote: > Adrian Crum wrote: > > I share some of the frustration Tim expressed, but at the same time >

Re: Working together. was: plans are nice, but what then?

2009-10-22 Thread Ean Schuessler
Tim Ruppert wrote: That's a pretty interesting option and I'm sure one that you've put forward many times by now. Is this something that can be supported by the ASF infrastructure or is that something we'd have to provide / do differently on top of the existing workflow to put into place? I h

Re: Working together. was: plans are nice, but what then?

2009-10-21 Thread Tim Ruppert
That's a pretty interesting option and I'm sure one that you've put forward many times by now. Is this something that can be supported by the ASF infrastructure or is that something we'd have to provide / do differently on top of the existing workflow to put into place? I have to admit to

Re: Working together. was: plans are nice, but what then?

2009-10-21 Thread Ean Schuessler
Well played sir. Hans Bakker wrote: Let me first say that i appreciate the things you and your people have done to OFbiz but is that a reason to write such a flame message? Yes i know you contributed a lot similar to what we (I and my people) have done. However it sure looks like we have a diff

Re: Working together. was: plans are nice, but what then?

2009-10-21 Thread Ean Schuessler
Adrian Crum wrote: I share some of the frustration Tim expressed, but at the same time I really appreciate the valuable contributions your company has made to the project. All I would ask is that you spend a little more time reviewing code and testing it before committing it. Which brings u

Re: Working together. was: plans are nice, but what then?

2009-10-21 Thread Tim Ruppert
valuable contributions your company has made to the project. All I would ask is that you spend a little more time reviewing code and testing it before committing it. -Adrian --- On Wed, 10/21/09, Hans Bakker wrote: From: Hans Bakker Subject: Working together. was: plans are nice, but

Re: Working together. was: plans are nice, but what then?

2009-10-21 Thread Adrian Crum
, Hans Bakker wrote: > From: Hans Bakker > Subject: Working together. was: plans are nice, but what then? > To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org > Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 6:14 PM > Tim, > > Let me first say that i appreciate the things you and your > people have >

Re: Working together. was: plans are nice, but what then?

2009-10-21 Thread Scott Gray
Hi Al, It is probably easiest if you just review the commits that have received comments: http://markmail.org/search/list:org%2Eapache%2Eofbiz%2Edev+subject :"svn+commit:"+order:date-backward Regards Scott On 22/10/2009, at 3:53 PM, Al Byers wrote: Tim, What are the most common bad pract

Re: Working together. was: plans are nice, but what then?

2009-10-21 Thread Al Byers
Tim, What are the most common bad practices that you see? It would help to know some specifics. -Al

Re: Working together. was: plans are nice, but what then?

2009-10-21 Thread Tim Ruppert
Looking forward to working this out as a community Hans. I'll do this for you -anything that you want me or my people to go back and look at because it doesn't follow the best practices of the project, I will fully endorse and will ensure get fixed. Please do the same on your end - and wh

Re: Working together. was: plans are nice, but what then?

2009-10-21 Thread David E Jones
Hans, Thank you for a mature and polite response to an immature and impolite message from Tim. I am saddened by the tone of some recent messages to you from Tim and certain others at Hotwax, and I'm glad you are stepping up and responding well and being a peacemaker to help hold together

Working together. was: plans are nice, but what then?

2009-10-21 Thread Hans Bakker
Tim, Let me first say that i appreciate the things you and your people have done to OFbiz but is that a reason to write such a flame message? Yes i know you contributed a lot similar to what we (I and my people) have done. However it sure looks like we have a different focus supporting OFBiz, I a