Re: proposal: overriding property setting per tenant.

2012-01-31 Thread Pierre Smits
Hi Charles, Could you please state with which version this is committed to OFBiz trunk? I am very much interested in this subject and didn't find anything related when I upgraded to the latest version this morning. Regards, Pierre 2012/1/31 STELTZLEN Charles > Hi, > > > Yes this is a good i

Re: proposal: overriding property setting per tenant.

2012-01-30 Thread STELTZLEN Charles
Hi, Yes this is a good idea. We did such a modification into an old OFbiz project and it was very useful. It's now updated for ofbiz trunk and package as an addon ;-) We have implemented a new entity called GeneralPropertyAttribute that allow us to manage dynamic properties. That solve multi

Re: proposal: overriding property setting per tenant.

2012-01-29 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Yes thanks Joe, I was (almost) sure I had read something in Commons for properties reloading but could not put my hand on it Jacques From: "Adrian Crum" Thanks for the reminder Joe! -Adrian On 1/29/2012 5:26 PM, J. Eckard wrote: Apache Commons Configuration can do this. http://commons.ap

Re: proposal: overriding property setting per tenant.

2012-01-29 Thread Adrian Crum
Thanks for the reminder Joe! -Adrian On 1/29/2012 5:26 PM, J. Eckard wrote: Apache Commons Configuration can do this. http://commons.apache.org/configuration/userguide/howto_multitenant.html#Multi-tenant_Configurations --- http://osdir.com/ml/user.ofbiz.apache.org/2010-03/msg00343.html Subj

Re: proposal: overriding property setting per tenant.

2012-01-29 Thread J. Eckard
Apache Commons Configuration can do this. http://commons.apache.org/configuration/userguide/howto_multitenant.html#Multi-tenant_Configurations --- http://osdir.com/ml/user.ofbiz.apache.org/2010-03/msg00343.html Subject: Re: Brainstorming about the Framework: General - msg#00343 List: user.ofbi

Re: proposal: overriding property setting per tenant.

2012-01-28 Thread Paul Foxworthy
lowest level will have the >>>> accounting.fixedasset.* >>>> *autocreate name and value=Y >>>> >>>> when we have this working we can slowly reorganize these records >>>> without >>>> having to change the programs. >>>>

Re: proposal: overriding property setting per tenant.

2012-01-28 Thread Jacques Le Roux
What could be even more intereting is to add a dynamic way to load a property in the schema you proposed. For instance SAP xMII usse a such scheme for dynamic i18n (which is not our concern since we have xml file for that) http://help.sap.com/saphelp_xmii115/helpdata/en/Localization/Localizati

Re: proposal: overriding property setting per tenant.

2012-01-28 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Hi Ruth, Could you elaborate on "true multitenancy", describe it in more details? Could you compare with current OFBiz solution? What would be the best way for OFBiz to achieve it? Thanks Jacques From: "Ruth Hoffman" Hi Pierre: I understand the premise. I don't understand the value proposit

Re: proposal: overriding property setting per tenant.

2012-01-27 Thread Hans Bakker
Then I am always thinking, why didn't you contribute it? On 01/27/2012 02:49 PM, pierre.gaudin wrote: Yes this is a good idea. We did such a modification into an old OFbiz project and it was very useful. On 27/01/2012 07:40, Hans Bakker wrote: Problem: 1. If you would like to hav

Re: proposal: overriding property setting per tenant.

2012-01-27 Thread Ruth Hoffman
Hi Pierre: I understand the premise. I don't understand the value proposition. I just don't see how this is any better than separate instances. Just wondered if anyone has done an ROI comparing the two approaches. My analysis suggests that the OFBiz implementation may not be the best way to a

Re: proposal: overriding property setting per tenant.

2012-01-27 Thread Pierre Smits
Re 1: Sandbox This is generaly done in larger organization wrt system integration testing and education/training of endusers. Re 2: With current version (trunk) of OFbiz this can be done. Keeping in mind JIRA issue https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4130 with regards to privacy. Regards,

Re: proposal: overriding property setting per tenant.

2012-01-27 Thread Adrian Crum
The use cases I can think of: 1. Implement a "sandbox" instance for users to learn on (with demo data), and also have a "live" instance (with live data). OFBiz users can learn in the sandbox without affecting live data, and then switch to the live instance. 2. Offer a customized version of OFB

Re: proposal: overriding property setting per tenant.

2012-01-27 Thread pierre.gaudin
Yes this is a good idea. We did such a modification into an old OFbiz project and it was very useful. On 27/01/2012 07:40, Hans Bakker wrote: Problem: 1. If you would like to have different tenants on your system and want to have different property settings for each tenant laike l

Re: proposal: overriding property setting per tenant.

2012-01-27 Thread Pierre Smits
Hi Ruth, For an explanation on multi-tenancy see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multitenancy. OFBiz does handle specific tenant usage with that datasets for each tenant can be customer specific and with regards of provision of hot-deploy applications each application can be made available to the te

Re: proposal: overriding property setting per tenant.

2012-01-27 Thread Ruth Hoffman
Hi Hans, et al. Could someone take a few minutes and explain to me the value of OFBiz multi-tenancy? Why not just use SVN or other tool specifically designed to manage multiple versions of a project where a project is an OFBiz tenant. The problem as I see it is that the OFBiz multi-tenant impl

Re: proposal: overriding property setting per tenant.

2012-01-27 Thread Adrian Crum
I have been thinking about Properties handling too, not from a multi-tenant perspective, but from a convenience perspective. It seems to me the way we handle properties right now could be simplified. Instead of calling a static utility method to get a property or using a special mini-language

Re: proposal: overriding property setting per tenant.

2012-01-27 Thread Hans Bakker
No it is not, property settings are taken for every tenant from the properties file. Do not confuse with userPreferences which are settings per userlogin. Do not have a list yet...but is not really required because if it is missing in the entity it still will retrieve it from the properties fil

Re: proposal: overriding property setting per tenant.

2012-01-27 Thread Pierre Smits
Hans, Is it not so that the default currency of any tenant is set when the ofbiz-setup process is run for that tenant? That should also be the case with other organizational settings per tenant, like default language. Do you currently have a list of all the properties that are spread over all the

proposal: overriding property setting per tenant.

2012-01-26 Thread Hans Bakker
Problem: 1. If you would like to have different tenants on your system and want to have different property settings for each tenant laike language or currency etc, that is currently not supported. 2. the properties are not very well organized, to say the least. Proposal: -