Re: [Shale] subview component XML composition extension

2005-03-18 Thread Craig McClanahan
On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 13:06:58 -0600, Michael Rasmussen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Craig, > I know this came up before in a converstion we had about dialogs. I > know it doesn't solve the problem, but I am curious, what is the > reason behind not exposing the navigation rules publicly? I figure

Re: [Shale] subview component XML composition extension

2005-03-18 Thread Michael Rasmussen
Craig, I know this came up before in a converstion we had about dialogs. I know it doesn't solve the problem, but I am curious, what is the reason behind not exposing the navigation rules publicly? I figure you would have some answer being on the expert group for JSF and all. Michael On Fri,

Re: [Shale] subview component XML composition extension

2005-03-18 Thread Craig McClanahan
On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 09:48:40 +0100, Matthias Wessendorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David- > > > Oops, I forgot. I do have a tiles view handler. I used the MyFaces view > > handler as a basis for mine, but I did things a little differently. > > ah, fine! Have you thought about a NavigationHandle

Re: [Shale] subview component XML composition extension

2005-03-18 Thread Sean Schofield
+1 for something like that! On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 09:48:40 +0100, Matthias Wessendorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David- > > > Oops, I forgot. I do have a tiles view handler. I used the MyFaces view > > handler as a basis for mine, but I did things a little differently. > > ah, fine! Have you th

Re: [Shale] subview component XML composition extension

2005-03-18 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
David- Oops, I forgot. I do have a tiles view handler. I used the MyFaces view handler as a basis for mine, but I did things a little differently. ah, fine! Have you thought about a NavigationHandler? I found it usefull to use tiles definitions inside struts-config.xml for ActionForwards. I guess

Re: [Shale] subview component XML composition extension

2005-03-17 Thread David Geary
Le Mar 16, 2005, à 12:51 AM, Matthias Wessendorf a écrit : David, No, I don't have anything JSF-specific. The extracted version is simply decoupled from Struts. Otherwise, it's just vanilla Tiles, except that I So you have no facility like a ViewHandler or something like that? Have you looked at

Re: [Shale] subview component XML composition extension

2005-03-15 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
David, No, I don't have anything JSF-specific. The extracted version is simply decoupled from Struts. Otherwise, it's just vanilla Tiles, except that I So you have no facility like a ViewHandler or something like that? Have you looked at MyFaces' TilesViewHandler ? -Matthias

Re: [Shale] subview component XML composition extension

2005-03-13 Thread Craig McClanahan
On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 17:52:17 -0500, Mike Kienenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David Geary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think this is all good stuff, but I'd rather see integration with > > Tiles instead of reinventing Tiles. Tiles has already covered some of > > this ground and I see no re

Re: [Shale] subview component XML composition extension

2005-03-13 Thread gvanmatre
> Ah, okay, I see. This capability, which essentially lets you plug > component attributes (including managed bean properties) into > components at runtime, is more fine-grained than Tiles and is certainly > JSF-specific. In fact, a while back, I had a client ask for something > like this: they

Re: [Shale] subview component XML composition extension

2005-03-13 Thread David Geary
Ah, okay, I see. This capability, which essentially lets you plug component attributes (including managed bean properties) into components at runtime, is more fine-grained than Tiles and is certainly JSF-specific. In fact, a while back, I had a client ask for something like this: they wanted to

Re: [Shale] subview component XML composition extension

2005-03-13 Thread gvanmatre
> David Geary Wrote: > Perhaps, but assuming we want the same functionality that Tiles > currently provides, such as XML tile definitions, tile inheritance, > role-based tiles, controllers, etc., you're going to have to reinvent > it unless you leverage Tiles somehow. You can have layout compone

Re: [Shale] subview component XML composition extension

2005-03-13 Thread David Geary
Le Mar 12, 2005, à 3:52 PM, Mike Kienenberger a écrit : David Geary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think this is all good stuff, but I'd rather see integration with Tiles instead of reinventing Tiles. Tiles has already covered some of this ground and I see no reason for us to follow. I haven't used J

Re: [Shale] subview component XML composition extension

2005-03-13 Thread gvanmatre
> Mike Kienenberger wrote: > I haven't used JSF enough to see if it fits the same pattern, but the > component-based frameworks I've used in the past have always made Tiles > unnecessary. Components are "tiles". I think that many might prefer using a component XML base technique for page com

Re: [Shale] subview component XML composition extension

2005-03-12 Thread Mike Kienenberger
David Geary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think this is all good stuff, but I'd rather see integration with > Tiles instead of reinventing Tiles. Tiles has already covered some of > this ground and I see no reason for us to follow. I haven't used JSF enough to see if it fits the same pattern, b

Re: [Shale] subview component XML composition extension

2005-03-12 Thread gvanmatre
> I think this is all good stuff, but I'd rather see integration with > Tiles instead of reinventing Tiles. Tiles has already covered some of > this ground and I see no reason for us to follow. I would also like to see tiles integrated. You really have some interesting points about Tiles an

Re: [Shale] subview component XML composition extension

2005-03-12 Thread David Geary
Le Mar 12, 2005, à 10:56 AM, Matthias Wessendorf a écrit : David, you wrote about your extracted Tiles version. Do you have Tiles JSF components and Tags? No, I don't have anything JSF-specific. The extracted version is simply decoupled from Struts. Otherwise, it's just vanilla Tiles, except that

Re: [Shale] subview component XML composition extension

2005-03-12 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
David, you wrote about your extracted Tiles version. Do you have Tiles JSF components and Tags? for instance: most people do: but you also could provide a *NamingContainer* for Tiles that handles the insert. eg where id is also the attribute ? -Matthias David Geary wrote: I think this is

Re: [Shale] subview component XML composition extension

2005-03-12 Thread David Geary
I think this is all good stuff, but I'd rather see integration with Tiles instead of reinventing Tiles. Tiles has already covered some of this ground and I see no reason for us to follow. I'd also like to see integration with SiteMesh, which excels at page decoration (as opposed to Tiles, which

[Shale] subview component XML composition extension

2005-03-12 Thread gvanmatre
This would be the second attempt but I would like to start a discussion on a Shale subview component extension. Currently, The shale subview jsf component provides a post-back method to the prerender method on the ViewController. The id attribute of the component is assumed as the managed bean

Shale subview component XML composition extension

2005-02-26 Thread GVANMATRE
I would like to start a discussion on a Shale subview component extension. Currently, The shale subview jsf component provides a post-back method to the prerender method on the ViewController. The id attribute of the component is assumed as the managed bean name. This method would be very usef