Re: Changing default setting of bash's hash table?

2011-08-19 Thread Ville Skyttä
On 08/20/2011 12:09 AM, Maciej Małecki wrote: > Not worth it, one can always use which to verify if command is gone or > is bash is going mad. +1 -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: RPM version goes backward in Rawhide

2011-08-19 Thread Garrett Holmstrom
On 2011-08-19 20:41, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Updates can be pulled out of updates-testing at any moment, which makes a > lot of sense, but which means that users with updates-testing enabled will > end up with the EVR going backwards, something that's not even allowed in > Rawhide. > > Enabling updat

RFC: Fedora-medical comps patch

2011-08-19 Thread Ankur Sinha
Hello, You may have noticed a lot of packaging activity on the fedora-medical front[1]. There are still quite a few packages in the review queue. Some have been approved, and we'd like to get started with the comps group. I've created a patch (attached). Please review it :) If all's okay, I shall

Re: Self Introduction

2011-08-19 Thread Steve Jenkins
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 9:17 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 08/19/2011 06:02 AM, Steve Jenkins wrote: >> Hi - the purpose of this email is to introduce myself as a prospective >> new package maintainer for Fedora. >> >> My recently filed review request is here: >> >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/sh

Re: Self Introduction

2011-08-19 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 08/19/2011 06:02 AM, Steve Jenkins wrote: > Hi - the purpose of this email is to introduce myself as a prospective > new package maintainer for Fedora. > > My recently filed review request is here: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=731898 > Hello Steve Jenkins, welcome to Fedora

Re: RPM version goes backward in Rawhide

2011-08-19 Thread Kevin Kofler
Looks like I forgot to reply to this: Adam Williamson wrote: > That's ass backwards, though. We need the testing _to determine if the > things should be in the release_. Really, I think if you look at the > quality of the releases that have happened since this policy was > changed, it's pretty cle

Re: Default services enabled

2011-08-19 Thread Kevin Kofler
Tim Waugh wrote: > Oh, I just noticed this: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines:Systemd#Socket_activation > "Since Fedora currently doesn't want any services to do on-demand > loading, all socket activated services must autostart." What the heck?! We're disabling systemd's mai

Re: Fwd: [Fedora Update] [CRITPATH] [old_testing_critpath] mdadm-3.1.3-0.git20100804.3.fc14

2011-08-19 Thread Kevin Kofler
Michal Hlavinka wrote: > I'm getting the same mail for some time now for my critpath security > update. I'm just wondering how long it takes before update reaches > users IMHO, the time it has taken so far is already too long. Stuff gets stuck in the queue literally forever due to this stupid bro

Re: Default services enabled

2011-08-19 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 19.08.2011 18:46, schrieb Lennart Poettering: > On Fri, 19.08.11 18:00, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote: > > Heya, > >> * no feedback of systemctl and wrong from /sbin/service-wrapper > Like most Unix commands systemctl will not output anything in case of > success, only on failur

Re: Changing default setting of bash's hash table?

2011-08-19 Thread Maciej Małecki
2011/8/19 Roberto Ragusa > > On 08/19/2011 01:24 PM, Roman Rakus wrote: > > I have a question, if it is worth to enable this option by default? It > > will not confuse some people, but can increase disk searching. Comments > > welcome. > > Confusion can only happen in this particular case, I think

Re: Changing default setting of bash's hash table?

2011-08-19 Thread Roberto Ragusa
On 08/19/2011 01:24 PM, Roman Rakus wrote: > I have a question, if it is worth to enable this option by default? It > will not confuse some people, but can increase disk searching. Comments > welcome. Confusion can only happen in this particular case, I think: 1) you run a command and the cache

[perl-Plack] Created tag perl-Plack-0.9974-2.el6.1

2011-08-19 Thread Jose Pedro Oliveira
The lightweight tag 'perl-Plack-0.9974-2.el6.1' was created pointing to: 0632e31... * First EPEL6 release (based on a F15 SRPM with a modified -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fed

[perl-Plack/el6] * First EPEL6 release (based on a F15 SRPM with a modified BR - perl(Devel::StackTrace))

2011-08-19 Thread Jose Pedro Oliveira
commit 0632e318d238ef7bfa66f12c9193e254bec82391 Author: Jose Pedro Oliveira Date: Fri Aug 19 18:31:22 2011 +0100 * First EPEL6 release (based on a F15 SRPM with a modified BR - perl(Devel::StackTrace)) .gitignore |1 + perl-Plack.spec | 35 ---

Re: Default services enabled

2011-08-19 Thread Simo Sorce
On Fri, 2011-08-19 at 17:47 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Fri, 19.08.11 11:03, Steve Grubb (sgr...@redhat.com) wrote: > > > > > On Friday, August 19, 2011 10:50:51 AM Richard Hughes wrote: > > > On 19 August 2011 13:35, Steve Grubb wrote: > > > > All security guidance says turn off or ge

Re: Default services enabled

2011-08-19 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fri, 19.08.11 18:00, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote: Heya, > * no feedback of systemctl and wrong from /sbin/service-wrapper Like most Unix commands systemctl will not output anything in case of success, only on failure. See cp, ln, mv, rm for similar behaviour. > * systemctl d

[perl-Devel-StackTrace-AsHTML/el6] * EPEL6: Disable test t/enconding.t as Devel::StackTrace is too old

2011-08-19 Thread Jose Pedro Oliveira
commit f24b3eb466844331c5b3dce7fc96b1fa9f140f98 Author: Jose Pedro Oliveira Date: Fri Aug 19 17:26:44 2011 +0100 * EPEL6: Disable test t/enconding.t as Devel::StackTrace is too old perl-Devel-StackTrace-AsHTML.spec |8 +++- 1 files changed, 7 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- dif

[perl-Devel-StackTrace-AsHTML] Created tag perl-Devel-StackTrace-AsHTML-0.11-2.el6.1

2011-08-19 Thread Jose Pedro Oliveira
The lightweight tag 'perl-Devel-StackTrace-AsHTML-0.11-2.el6.1' was created pointing to: f24b3eb... * EPEL6: Disable test t/enconding.t as Devel::StackTrace i -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Default services enabled

2011-08-19 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 19.08.2011 17:47, schrieb Lennart Poettering: > Well, I think Fedora is more interested in real-life users than synthetic > certifications well, when will you start to fix the usability-faux-passes you brought for the normal users? the last systemd update is long ago * no feedback of system

Re: Default services enabled

2011-08-19 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fri, 19.08.11 11:51, seth vidal (skvi...@fedoraproject.org) wrote: > > On Fri, 2011-08-19 at 17:47 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > Well, I think Fedora is more interested in real-life users than > > synthetic certifications. > > I think you are not the arbiter of what fedora is intere

Re: Default services enabled

2011-08-19 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fri, 19.08.11 17:12, Tomasz Torcz (to...@pipebreaker.pl) wrote: > > > Just a thought - would it make sense to create a "server-target" (and/or > > > "desktop-target") that is independent of graphical-target? > > > > I would hope there are pre-canned targets for different crowds. I also hope >

Re: Default services enabled

2011-08-19 Thread seth vidal
On Fri, 2011-08-19 at 17:47 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > Well, I think Fedora is more interested in real-life users than > synthetic certifications. I think you are not the arbiter of what fedora is interested in. If this is a point of conflict it should be discussed with the board and fes

Re: Default services enabled

2011-08-19 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 08/19/2011 03:39 PM, Steve Grubb wrote: > We need a way to specify in the service init files which targets the service > is allowed > to run in by default. You do that in the install section of the unit file [Install] WantedBy=$foo.target So basically all desktop related service should only

Re: Default services enabled

2011-08-19 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fri, 19.08.11 11:03, Steve Grubb (sgr...@redhat.com) wrote: > > On Friday, August 19, 2011 10:50:51 AM Richard Hughes wrote: > > On 19 August 2011 13:35, Steve Grubb wrote: > > > All security guidance says turn off or get rid of avahi. We really don't > > > want to require it just to print. >

Re: Default services enabled

2011-08-19 Thread Steve Grubb
On Friday, August 19, 2011 11:12:25 AM Tomasz Torcz wrote: > On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 11:07:45AM -0400, Steve Grubb wrote: > > On Friday, August 19, 2011 10:38:59 AM Ola Thoresen wrote: > > > On 19. aug. 2011 16:00, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > > > > On 08/19/2011 12:35 PM, Steve Grubb wrote: >

Re: Default services enabled

2011-08-19 Thread Robert Marcano
On 08/19/2011 10:08 AM, Ola Thoresen wrote: > On 19. aug. 2011 16:00, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: >> On 08/19/2011 12:35 PM, Steve Grubb wrote: >>> On Friday, August 19, 2011 03:41:33 AM Tim Waugh wrote: On Thu, 2011-08-18 at 16:52 -0600, Orion Poplawski wrote: > It's not so much cups s

Re: Default services enabled

2011-08-19 Thread Steve Grubb
On Friday, August 19, 2011 11:24:39 AM Tim Waugh wrote: > On Fri, 2011-08-19 at 11:03 -0400, Steve Grubb wrote: > > People running in a LSPP configuration would be horrified > > to know avahi is now required for printing top secret documents. > > Just to clarify: it is not required. Most likely i

Re: Default services enabled

2011-08-19 Thread Tim Waugh
On Fri, 2011-08-19 at 11:03 -0400, Steve Grubb wrote: > People running in a LSPP configuration would be horrified > to know avahi is now required for printing top secret documents. Just to clarify: it is not required. Most likely in an LSPP configuration not even CUPS Browsing is used, but expli

Re: Default services enabled

2011-08-19 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 11:07:45AM -0400, Steve Grubb wrote: > On Friday, August 19, 2011 10:38:59 AM Ola Thoresen wrote: > > On 19. aug. 2011 16:00, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > > > On 08/19/2011 12:35 PM, Steve Grubb wrote: > > >> On Friday, August 19, 2011 03:41:33 AM Tim Waugh wrote: > > >>

Re: Default services enabled

2011-08-19 Thread Steve Grubb
On Friday, August 19, 2011 10:38:59 AM Ola Thoresen wrote: > On 19. aug. 2011 16:00, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > > On 08/19/2011 12:35 PM, Steve Grubb wrote: > >> On Friday, August 19, 2011 03:41:33 AM Tim Waugh wrote: > >>> On Thu, 2011-08-18 at 16:52 -0600, Orion Poplawski wrote: > It's

Re: Default services enabled

2011-08-19 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 19.08.2011 16:50, schrieb Richard Hughes: > On 19 August 2011 13:35, Steve Grubb wrote: >> All security guidance says turn off or get rid of avahi. We really don't >> want to >> require it just to print. > > Then "security" is flying in the face of usability this is always so, nearly every

Re: Default services enabled

2011-08-19 Thread Steve Grubb
On Friday, August 19, 2011 10:50:51 AM Richard Hughes wrote: > On 19 August 2011 13:35, Steve Grubb wrote: > > All security guidance says turn off or get rid of avahi. We really don't > > want to require it just to print. > > Then "security" is flying in the face of usability. Generally there is

Re: glibc causing crashes in most anything that does DNS lookups in F16

2011-08-19 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 19.8.2011 14:06, Peter Robinson napsal(a): > Do you have IPv6, I wonder if its somehow related to that. I haven't disabled it, but the turtle doesn't dance, so it is not configured. Matěj -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/d

Re: Default services enabled

2011-08-19 Thread Richard Hughes
On 19 August 2011 13:35, Steve Grubb wrote: > All security guidance says turn off or get rid of avahi. We really don't want > to > require it just to print. Then "security" is flying in the face of usability. Richard. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproj

Re: Default services enabled

2011-08-19 Thread Ola Thoresen
On 19. aug. 2011 16:00, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 08/19/2011 12:35 PM, Steve Grubb wrote: >> On Friday, August 19, 2011 03:41:33 AM Tim Waugh wrote: >>> On Thu, 2011-08-18 at 16:52 -0600, Orion Poplawski wrote: It's not so much cups start up being slow as discovering network pri

Re: Default services enabled

2011-08-19 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 08/19/2011 12:35 PM, Steve Grubb wrote: > On Friday, August 19, 2011 03:41:33 AM Tim Waugh wrote: >> On Thu, 2011-08-18 at 16:52 -0600, Orion Poplawski wrote: >>> It's not so much cups start up being slow as discovering network >>> printers. That can take up to a minute I think. >> This is true.

Re: Default services enabled

2011-08-19 Thread Steve Grubb
On Friday, August 19, 2011 03:41:33 AM Tim Waugh wrote: > On Thu, 2011-08-18 at 16:52 -0600, Orion Poplawski wrote: > > It's not so much cups start up being slow as discovering network > > printers. That can take up to a minute I think. > > This is true... however, discovered printers are cached s

Re: glibc causing crashes in most anything that does DNS lookups in F16

2011-08-19 Thread Peter Robinson
2011/8/19 Matěj Cepl : > Dne 9.8.2011 00:24, Adam Williamson napsal(a): >> >> A bit of detective work led to: >> >> https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/24615 >> >> apparently Arch has been seeing the same thing. They've addressed it by >> reverting the following upstream glibc commit: >> >> >> http://s

Changing default setting of bash's hash table?

2011-08-19 Thread Roman Rakus
Maybe the subject is a bit misleading, I will clarify it. Bash is using hash table to remember locations of executed commands. Whenever you try to run a command bash looks in hash table. When the command is found in table then bash will you full path name as it is in the table. However there i

Re: glibc causing crashes in most anything that does DNS lookups in F16

2011-08-19 Thread Matěj Cepl
Dne 9.8.2011 00:24, Adam Williamson napsal(a): A bit of detective work led to: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/24615 apparently Arch has been seeing the same thing. They've addressed it by reverting the following upstream glibc commit: http://sourceware.org/git/?p=glibc.git;a=commit;h=4769ae77

Re: Is there any guideline / examples to package lisp packages ?

2011-08-19 Thread Arun SAG
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 5:04 PM, Kushal Das wrote: > Hi all, > > >Is there any guideline / examples to package lisp packages ? > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Lisp -- Arun S.A.G http://zer0c00l.in/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.or

Is there any guideline / examples to package lisp packages ?

2011-08-19 Thread Kushal Das
Hi all, Is there any guideline / examples to package lisp packages ? Kushal -- http://fedoraproject.org http://kushaldas.in -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Default services enabled

2011-08-19 Thread Tim Waugh
On Thu, 2011-08-18 at 16:52 -0600, Orion Poplawski wrote: > It's not so much cups start up being slow as discovering network printers. > That can take up to a minute I think. This is true... however, discovered printers are cached so this is only an issue the first time CUPS starts after installa