Re: Sourcing one spec from another permissible?

2011-10-17 Thread Kevin Kofler
Richard Shaw wrote: > Yeah, it's a hack, but it works pretty well. Now the kernel module > SRPM will be available as part of the build results. Anyone have a > better idea? Instead of trying to come up with clever hacks, please look at how existing kernel modules are packaged in RPM Fusion. They

Re: Greetings from Olin -- and a package

2011-10-17 Thread Jon Ciesla
> Greetings from the quirky engineering school we call Olin. We three > (Kevin, > Ashley, and I) are getting a crash course on packaging and other release > engineering skills from Sebastian (Sdz > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Sdz) > > We've produced a package for the io programming languag

How to update GMP-using packages

2011-10-17 Thread Jerry James
How should those of us with gmp-using packages manage updates while the update to GMP 5.x is underway? I've got a handful of updates I want to build for Rawhide at some point, but I don't want to cause problems. Should I wait until the GMP update is done and the packages are all tagged, or go ahe

Greetings from Olin -- and a package

2011-10-17 Thread Colin Zwiebel
Greetings from the quirky engineering school we call Olin. We three (Kevin, Ashley, and I) are getting a crash course on packaging and other release engineering skills from Sebastian (Sdz https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Sdz) We've produced a package for the io programming language. https://bug

Re: API change: bump mapnik to 2.0 in rawhide?

2011-10-17 Thread Alex Lancaster
On 17/10/11, Tom Hughes wrote: > On 17/10/11 20:02, Alex Lancaster wrote: >> Looking at the changelog, it isn't obvious whether this >> introduces any ABI/API changes or not, hence this e-mail. > I just asked Dane on IRC and he confirms that they are not compatible so > the soname needs to be b

Re: API change: bump mapnik to 2.0 in rawhide?

2011-10-17 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 15:02:29 -0400 (EDT) Alex Lancaster wrote: > Hi there, > > Looks like mapnik has been bumped from 0.7 to 2.0 upstream: > > http://mapnik.org/news/2011/sep/26/release_2_0/ > > I am rebuilding mapnik in rawhide to fix broken deps, and I > was wondering if any maintainers of m

Re: Building cpufreq modules into F16 kernel is it right or wrong?

2011-10-17 Thread alekcejk
Frequency scaling have negative effects for me so I need to have it disabled in BIOS. I think that this is not BIOS option broken but broken kernel with built-in cpufreq modules. If hardware supports disabling frequency scaling then should be possibility to do this. BIOS have such possibility, Fed

Re: API change: bump mapnik to 2.0 in rawhide?

2011-10-17 Thread Tom Hughes
On 17/10/11 20:02, Alex Lancaster wrote: > Looking at the changelog, it isn't obvious whether this > introduces any ABI/API changes or not, hence this e-mail. I just asked Dane on IRC and he confirms that they are not compatible so the soname needs to be bumped. Tom -- Tom Hughes (t...@compto

API change: bump mapnik to 2.0 in rawhide?

2011-10-17 Thread Alex Lancaster
Hi there, Looks like mapnik has been bumped from 0.7 to 2.0 upstream: http://mapnik.org/news/2011/sep/26/release_2_0/ I am rebuilding mapnik in rawhide to fix broken deps, and I was wondering if any maintainers of mapnik-dependent packages had any opinions on whether updating to 2.0 would have a

Re: systemd - standard place to run stuff after the network is up?

2011-10-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2011-10-17 at 09:20 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > I want to try to modprobe netconsole during boot, but it needs to happen > after the network is up. Is there any standard place (rc.local and > modules-load seem to happen too early) to do this? > > I filed https://bugzilla.redhat.com/sho

Re: Building cpufreq modules into F16 kernel is it right or wrong?

2011-10-17 Thread Adam Jackson
On Mon, 2011-10-17 at 21:54 +0300, alekc...@googlemail.com wrote: > But this assumption was wrong for my system which have BIOS option > for disabling CPU frequency scaling (SpeedStep). > > If SpeedStep is enabled in BIOS then kernel uses acpi-cpufreq built-in module > but if I will disable frequ

Building cpufreq modules into F16 kernel is it right or wrong?

2011-10-17 Thread alekcejk
Hi, The purpose of this bug was to provide native systemd script for cpuspeed in Fedora 16 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=713572 But instead of adding systemd script which should load cpufreq modules other solution was provided - cpufreq modules was compiled as built-in in Fedora 16

Self Introduction

2011-10-17 Thread Jon VanAlten
Hello all, Just going through the process noted at the wiki for becoming a package maintainer[1], so here I am introducing myself. A bit about me: Red Hatter, Open Source Java guy, so far have done much more lurking than participating at least wrt Fedora. I am for now mainly taking on the new

synergy-plu, synergy, and gnome3

2011-10-17 Thread Laine Stump
The version of synergy-plus currently in Fedora doesn't work well with gnome3; I had noticed this because I couldn't get the mouse past the menubar to an alternate screen configured to be "north", but there are other problems as well: http://synergy-foss.org/tracker/issues/2958 Since the sy

Re: systemd - standard place to run stuff after the network is up?

2011-10-17 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 10/17/2011 01:10 PM, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: > On 10/17/2011 10:20 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: >> I want to try to modprobe netconsole during boot, but it needs to happen >> after the network is up. Is there any standard place (rc.local and >> modules-load seem to happen too early) to do this? >>

[Test-Announce] Fedora 16 Final Test Compose 1 (TC1) x86_64 install images available now!

2011-10-17 Thread Andre Robatino
This is a followup to the earlier TC1 announcement http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test-announce/2011-October/000309.html when the x86_64 install images were not available yet. They are now in http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/16.TC1/Fedora/x86_64/iso/ Delta ISOs should be avai

FESCo meeting minutes for 2011-10-17

2011-10-17 Thread Bill Nottingham
=== #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2011-10-17) === Meeting started by notting at 17:01:09 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-10-17/fesco.2011-10-17-17.01.log.html Meeting summary --

Re: systemd - standard place to run stuff after the network is up?

2011-10-17 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 17.10.11 13:21, Simo Sorce (s...@redhat.com) wrote: > > Note that you might still need to enable > > NetworkManager-wait-online.servce with "systemctl enable" so that bootup > > is delayed until NM configured a network. (more precisely: delay > > network.target until NM configured a networ

Re: systemd - standard place to run stuff after the network is up?

2011-10-17 Thread Simo Sorce
On Mon, 2011-10-17 at 19:10 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Mon, 17.10.11 09:20, Bruno Wolff III (br...@wolff.to) wrote: > > > I want to try to modprobe netconsole during boot, but it needs to happen > > after the network is up. Is there any standard place (rc.local and > > modules-load seem

Re: systemd - standard place to run stuff after the network is up?

2011-10-17 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 17.10.11 09:20, Bruno Wolff III (br...@wolff.to) wrote: > I want to try to modprobe netconsole during boot, but it needs to happen > after the network is up. Is there any standard place (rc.local and > modules-load seem to happen too early) to do this? Well, yes and no. In general doing

Re: systemd - standard place to run stuff after the network is up?

2011-10-17 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 10/17/2011 10:20 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > I want to try to modprobe netconsole during boot, but it needs to happen > after the network is up. Is there any standard place (rc.local and > modules-load seem to happen too early) to do this? > > I filed https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id

Re: Sourcing one spec from another permissible?

2011-10-17 Thread Richard Shaw
Ok, I've dug a little deeper and I think there needs to be two separate packages. The reason for this is that the kernel module needs to be rebuilt on every kernel install/update. The current Makefile has a target to create a SRPM for the kernel module. I think I can do something along these lines

Re: Sourcing one spec from another permissible?

2011-10-17 Thread Richard Shaw
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 09:27:38AM -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: >> NOTE (just for Jon :): This is for RPM Fusion but the question is a >> technical one. >> >> I'm looking at packaging zfs for Fedora (via RPM Fusion) and it has a >> single so

Re: Sourcing one spec from another permissible?

2011-10-17 Thread Richard Shaw
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Nicolas Chauvet wrote: > 2011/10/17 Richard Shaw : >> Is it technically possible to "source in" an spec from within a spec? > > If that really worth it, I would create a package dropping several > macros into /etc/rpm. > Then I could reuse them in the two different

Re: Sourcing one spec from another permissible?

2011-10-17 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 09:27:38AM -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: > NOTE (just for Jon :): This is for RPM Fusion but the question is a > technical one. > > I'm looking at packaging zfs for Fedora (via RPM Fusion) and it has a > single source package but contains two spec files. One for the > utilitie

Re: Sourcing one spec from another permissible?

2011-10-17 Thread Nicolas Chauvet
2011/10/17 Richard Shaw : > NOTE (just for Jon :): This is for RPM Fusion but the question is a > technical one. > > I'm looking at packaging zfs for Fedora (via RPM Fusion) and it has a > single source package but contains two spec files. One for the > utilities (zfs{,-devel,-dracut,-test}) and on

Re: Sourcing one spec from another permissible?

2011-10-17 Thread Richard Shaw
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > On Mon, 2011-10-17 at 09:27 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: >> NOTE (just for Jon :): This is for RPM Fusion but the question is a >> technical one. >> >> I'm looking at packaging zfs for Fedora (via RPM Fusion) and it has a >> single source p

Re: Sourcing one spec from another permissible?

2011-10-17 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Mon, 2011-10-17 at 09:27 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: > NOTE (just for Jon :): This is for RPM Fusion but the question is a > technical one. > > I'm looking at packaging zfs for Fedora (via RPM Fusion) and it has a > single source package but contains two spec files. One for the > utilities (zfs{

Sourcing one spec from another permissible?

2011-10-17 Thread Richard Shaw
NOTE (just for Jon :): This is for RPM Fusion but the question is a technical one. I'm looking at packaging zfs for Fedora (via RPM Fusion) and it has a single source package but contains two spec files. One for the utilities (zfs{,-devel,-dracut,-test}) and one for the kernel module (zfs-modules)

Re: No guidelines for packaging of udev rules?

2011-10-17 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 16:07:54 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > In fact, a package that installs rules files in /etc is almost > definitely doing it wrong, and should be fixed. On that note I have filed bug 744230 against apmd which tries to package a config file in /etc/module-load whic

systemd - standard place to run stuff after the network is up?

2011-10-17 Thread Bruno Wolff III
I want to try to modprobe netconsole during boot, but it needs to happen after the network is up. Is there any standard place (rc.local and modules-load seem to happen too early) to do this? I filed https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=746481 against systemd, but it has been closed notabug.

Re: No guidelines for packaging of udev rules?

2011-10-17 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 17.10.11 08:34, Richard Shaw (hobbes1...@gmail.com) wrote: > Out of curiosity I decided to see if I could package zfs from > http://zfsonlinux.org/. One thing I noticed is that there are both > udev rules in /lib/udev/rules.d and /etc/udev/rules.d and I could not > find any guidelines on F

Re: No guidelines for packaging of udev rules?

2011-10-17 Thread Jon Ciesla
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 08:34:58 -0500, > Richard Shaw wrote: >> Out of curiosity I decided to see if I could package zfs from >> http://zfsonlinux.org/. One thing I noticed is that there are both >> udev rules in /lib/udev/rules.d and /etc/udev/rules.d and I could not >> find any guidelines

FESCo meeting agenda for 2011-10-17

2011-10-17 Thread Bill Nottingham
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting today at 17:00UTC (1:00pm EDT) in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. Links to all tickets below can be found at: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/report/9 = Followups = #topic #667 Request to fix CRITPATH update proces

Re: No guidelines for packaging of udev rules?

2011-10-17 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 08:34:58 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: > Out of curiosity I decided to see if I could package zfs from > http://zfsonlinux.org/. One thing I noticed is that there are both > udev rules in /lib/udev/rules.d and /etc/udev/rules.d and I could not > find any guidelines on Fedora

No guidelines for packaging of udev rules?

2011-10-17 Thread Richard Shaw
Out of curiosity I decided to see if I could package zfs from http://zfsonlinux.org/. One thing I noticed is that there are both udev rules in /lib/udev/rules.d and /etc/udev/rules.d and I could not find any guidelines on Fedora for what directory was appropriate. I did find a discussion from Arch

rawhide report: 20111017 changes

2011-10-17 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Mon Oct 17 08:15:23 UTC 2011 Broken deps for x86_64 -- 389-admin-1.1.23-1.fc17.i686 requires libicuuc.so.46 389-admin-1.1.23-1.fc17.i686 requires libicui18n.so.46 389-admin-1.1.23-1.fc17.i686 require

Re: PackageKit vice shell

2011-10-17 Thread Genes MailLists
Also, FYI, you you can disable it (as alternative to deleting): unset -f command_not_found_handle in your .bashrc ... -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: PackageKit vice shell

2011-10-17 Thread Richard Hughes
On 16 October 2011 19:00, JB wrote: >  pk-command-not-found [OPTION...] We fixed this quite a long time ago. Perhaps upgrading to F15 or F16 might be a good idea? Richard. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: grubby and the transition from grub to grub2

2011-10-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2011-10-16 at 11:14 -0700, darrell pfeifer wrote: > How does grubby decide which boot loader is running? It doesn't care. It updates any grub config it finds. If you have both grub1 and grub2 configs present, it will update both. > > I have a system upgraded from grub to grub2. I've yum