Fwd: Please check your sources for strings not marked for translation before release

2012-05-07 Thread Ankitkumar Rameshchandra Patel
Thought of forwarding it here as it also occurs with us in most of the Fedora packages where Fedora is upstream. We (translators) always try to find out where did we miss the translations when we find that a particular package has something viewed in English during the testing phase. So, develope

Re: Proposed F18 feature: MiniDebugInfo

2012-05-07 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Tue, May 08, 2012 at 08:34:57AM +0200, Alexander Larsson wrote: > Its true that that is all the information you need from the > process/core. But you need to have the rest of the information availible > *somewhere*, such as on a global retrace server or just having it Yes. > locally in the min

Re: Proposed F18 feature: MiniDebugInfo

2012-05-07 Thread Alexander Larsson
On Tue, 2012-05-08 at 08:30 +0200, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > On Tue, May 08, 2012 at 08:09:04AM +0200, Alexander Larsson wrote: > > This is your opinion. I rarely need the full backtrace in a bug report, > > because it you can get one its generally something thats easily > > reproduced and I can just

Re: Proposed F18 feature: MiniDebugInfo

2012-05-07 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Tue, May 08, 2012 at 08:09:04AM +0200, Alexander Larsson wrote: > This is your opinion. I rarely need the full backtrace in a bug report, > because it you can get one its generally something thats easily > reproduced and I can just run it in gdb myself. When you need it is when > something weird

Re: Proposed F18 feature: MiniDebugInfo

2012-05-07 Thread Alexander Larsson
On Mon, 2012-05-07 at 22:44 +0200, Jan Kratochvil wrote: > On Mon, 07 May 2012 22:24:15 +0200, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > 4) I disagree with the contention that this should all be done via the > > retrace server. For the retrace server to work, you have to have > > all of the following: > > > > -

Re: Proposed F18 feature: MiniDebugInfo

2012-05-07 Thread Alexander Larsson
On Mon, 2012-05-07 at 16:24 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Alexander Larsson (al...@redhat.com) said: > > I just wrote a new Feature proposal for shipping minimal debug info by > > default: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/MiniDebugInfo > > > > The feature page lists some of the backg

Re: Proposed F18 feature: MiniDebugInfo

2012-05-07 Thread Alexander Larsson
On Mon, 2012-05-07 at 18:55 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Alexander Larsson wrote: > > I just wrote a new Feature proposal for shipping minimal debug info by > > default: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/MiniDebugInfo > > > > The feature page lists some

Re: Proposed F18 feature: MiniDebugInfo

2012-05-07 Thread Alexander Larsson
On Mon, 2012-05-07 at 23:54 +0200, Jan Kratochvil wrote: > On Mon, 07 May 2012 23:36:04 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > But anyway, I don't think it's worth continuing this discussion, this is > > a bit like a dialogue between two wet towels... > > I also do not think we can ever find an agr

Re: ATI graphics card not being detected properly by F17 BETA or current update

2012-05-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2012-05-08 at 15:37 +1000, Rodd Clarkson wrote: > I have a laptop with a radeon display that's been working fine using > f16, but now the best I get is VESA. > > I've tried updating but it still boots with the blue/white bars at the > bottom, instead of the graphic boot and the best resolu

ATI graphics card not being detected properly by F17 BETA or current update

2012-05-07 Thread Rodd Clarkson
I have a laptop with a radeon display that's been working fine using f16, but now the best I get is VESA. I've tried updating but it still boots with the blue/white bars at the bottom, instead of the graphic boot and the best resolution I can get is 1400x900 (the display is 1920x1080). I'm not su

Re: EPEL 6 cmake RPATH deafults?!?

2012-05-07 Thread Richard Shaw
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 7:24 PM, Jonathan Underwood wrote: > I've made a cmake28 package for EL6 that builds and passes all tests. > Review request here: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=819678 > > Generating the patch to make it parallel installable with the RHEL > cmake (2.6) packa

Re: EPEL 6 cmake RPATH deafults?!?

2012-05-07 Thread Jonathan Underwood
On 5 May 2012 22:48, Richard Shaw wrote: > On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 5:53 AM, Jonathan Underwood > wrote: [..snip..] >> There's been a BZ asking the rhel maintainer to update to CMake 2.8 for a >> while: >> >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=606892 >> >> thought the response hasn't been

Re: New libtiff version in rawhide, requires dependent packages rebuild

2012-05-07 Thread Tom Callaway
On 05/06/2012 12:10 PM, Tom Lane wrote: > spotR > spotevas > spottkimg needs work for new libtiff > spotxloadimageneeds work for new libtiff These should all be done now in rawhide. ~tom == Fedora Project -- devel mailing list devel@li

Re: Proposed F18 feature: MiniDebugInfo

2012-05-07 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Mon, 07 May 2012 23:36:04 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > I mean, just think of this: you have a pool of workstations to > administer. It's all the same machines, with the same prepared OS > image. Then I probably use readonly /usr/lib/debug over NFS. > Now, with your logic this would eith

Re: Proposed F18 feature: MiniDebugInfo

2012-05-07 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 07.05.12 23:02, Jan Kratochvil (jan.kratoch...@redhat.com) wrote: > On Mon, 07 May 2012 22:16:02 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > Everybody who builds OSes or appliances, and who needs to supervise a > > large number of systems, and hosts, wants stacktraces that just work, > > and don'

Re: Proposed F18 feature: MiniDebugInfo

2012-05-07 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Mon, 07 May 2012 22:16:02 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > Everybody who builds OSes or appliances, and who needs to supervise a > large number of systems, and hosts, wants stacktraces that just work, > and don't require network access or any complex infrastructure. Yes, they work for me.

Re: Proposed F18 feature: MiniDebugInfo

2012-05-07 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Mon, 07 May 2012 22:24:15 +0200, Bill Nottingham wrote: > 4) I disagree with the contention that this should all be done via the > retrace server. For the retrace server to work, you have to have > all of the following: > > - all relevant binaries and DSOs built in Fedora When we are consideri

Re: Proposed F18 feature: MiniDebugInfo

2012-05-07 Thread Bill Nottingham
Alexander Larsson (al...@redhat.com) said: > I just wrote a new Feature proposal for shipping minimal debug info by > default: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/MiniDebugInfo > > The feature page lists some of the background and statistics. It also > lists some options in how to implement

Re: Proposed F18 feature: MiniDebugInfo

2012-05-07 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 07.05.12 17:50, Jan Kratochvil (jan.kratoch...@redhat.com) wrote: > On Mon, 07 May 2012 17:40:18 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > on the individual machine, > > There is no backing reason for this requirement. It does not matter > where. That's my requirement, and actually of many o

Re: F16->F17 preupgrade (Re: F17 Beta to slip by an additional week.)

2012-05-07 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2012/5/7 Michał Piotrowski : [..] > > It seems that the system so far is working well except for one small > thing - I can not log on to phpPgAdmin. I will have to review the > configuration to determine what caused the problem. > I think that in some way /etc/phpPgAdmin/config.inc.php was silentl

[Test-Announce] GDM issues: downgrade to accountsservice-0.6.18-1.fc17

2012-05-07 Thread Adam Williamson
Just wanted to bring to the attention of F17 testers that problems emerged with both accountsservice 0.6.19 and 0.6.20, and the desktop team decided to unpush both updates and, instead of trying to come up with something that works, go with 0.6.18 for the F17 final release. So if you're an F17 test

Summary/Minutes for today's FESCo meeting (2012-05-07)

2012-05-07 Thread Bill Nottingham
=== #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2012-05-07) === Meeting started by notting at 17:01:20 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-05-07/fesco.2012-05-07-17.01.log.html . Meeting summary

Re: Proposed F18 feature: MiniDebugInfo

2012-05-07 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Alexander Larsson wrote: > I just wrote a new Feature proposal for shipping minimal debug info by > default: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/MiniDebugInfo > > The feature page lists some of the background and statistics. It also > lists some options in how

Re: Proposed F18 feature: MiniDebugInfo

2012-05-07 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Mon, 07 May 2012 18:10:17 +0200, Colin Walters wrote: > My experience is otherwise; just look at how the kernel works in > practice. People often post stack traces to the list, and it's > certainly not uncommon for problems to be fixed just based on this data. Linux kernel is not generalizable

Fwd: ANNOUNCE: OpenNebula 3.2.1 Packaging complete - Review assistance requested for Fedora 17

2012-05-07 Thread Jaime Melis
Hello, The OpenNebula package needs to be reviewed https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/OpenNebula ( https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=815001). We sent an email to the cloud mailing list and I'm forwarding it to this list in case someone is interested in reviewing it. BTW: I've asked

Re: Proposed F18 feature: MiniDebugInfo

2012-05-07 Thread Colin Walters
On Mon, 2012-05-07 at 17:50 +0200, Jan Kratochvil wrote: > > * Opinions to this item significantly differ but minidebuginfo-only >backtraces are in many (IMO most) cases not usable for problem analysis. My experience is otherwise; just look at how the kernel works in practice. People often

Re: Proposed F18 feature: MiniDebugInfo

2012-05-07 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Mon, 07 May 2012 17:40:18 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > on the individual machine, There is no backing reason for this requirement. It does not matter where. > without having to keep coredumps, Core dump currently always have to be shortly stored on the disk anyway, even for using mini

Re: Proposed F18 feature: MiniDebugInfo

2012-05-07 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 07.05.12 16:25, Jan Kratochvil (jan.kratoch...@redhat.com) wrote: > On Mon, 07 May 2012 15:07:20 +0200, Alexander Larsson wrote: > > I just wrote a new Feature proposal for shipping minimal debug info by > > default: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/MiniDebugInfo > > The "sever

Re: Transcient error in Koji/F15 (mock)

2012-05-07 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, 07 May 2012 15:11:29 +0200 Patrick Monnerat wrote: > While packaging a new version of xca, the initial "fedpkg build" for > F15 failed with error "BuildrootError: could not init mock buildroot, > mock exited with status 4; see root.log for more information". See > http://koji.fedoraprojec

Re: Proposed F18 feature: MiniDebugInfo

2012-05-07 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Mon, 07 May 2012 17:29:12 +0200, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > On Mon, May 07, 2012 at 05:25:29PM +0200, Jan Kratochvil wrote: > > On Mon, 07 May 2012 16:34:27 +0200, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > > > For bug reporting, you don't need to upload core files, if all you want > > > is to augment backtraces with s

Re: Proposed F18 feature: MiniDebugInfo

2012-05-07 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Mon, 07 May 2012 17:15:17 +0200, Alexander Larsson wrote: > * They don't work offline, or before/after the network is up + > * Its problematic to use a retrace server during early boot, or e.g. in > non-session apps like a daemon /var/spool/abrt/ stores them for later GUI upload, it already w

Re: Proposed F18 feature: MiniDebugInfo

2012-05-07 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Mon, May 07, 2012 at 05:25:29PM +0200, Jan Kratochvil wrote: > On Mon, 07 May 2012 16:34:27 +0200, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > > For bug reporting, you don't need to upload core files, if all you want > > is to augment backtraces with symbol info and perhaps line info, then > > all you can do is just

Re: Proposed F18 feature: MiniDebugInfo

2012-05-07 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Mon, 07 May 2012 16:34:27 +0200, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > For bug reporting, you don't need to upload core files, if all you want > is to augment backtraces with symbol info and perhaps line info, then > all you can do is just upload backtraces without symbol info/line info, > supply the relevant

Re: Proposed F18 feature: MiniDebugInfo

2012-05-07 Thread Alexander Larsson
On Mon, 2012-05-07 at 16:25 +0200, Jan Kratochvil wrote: > On Mon, 07 May 2012 15:07:20 +0200, Alexander Larsson wrote: > > I just wrote a new Feature proposal for shipping minimal debug info by > > default: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/MiniDebugInfo > > The "several choices" is mis

Schedule for today's FESCo meeting (2012-05-07)

2012-05-07 Thread Bill Nottingham
Apologies for the very late agenda. Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting monday at 17:00UTC (1:00pm EDT) in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. Links to all tickets below can be found at: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/report/9 = Followups = #topic #839

rawhide report: 20120507 changes

2012-05-07 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
Compose started at Mon May 7 08:15:03 UTC 2012 Broken deps for x86_64 -- [389-admin] 389-admin-1.1.28-1.fc18.i686 requires libicuuc.so.48 389-admin-1.1.28-1.fc18.i686 requires libicui18n.so.48 389-admin-1.1.28-1.fc18.

Re: rawhide ext4/virtio FS performance hit (10x slower) ?

2012-05-07 Thread Jim Meyering
Josh Boyer wrote: > On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 8:43 AM, Jim Meyering wrote: >> Today I noticed that some tests from coreutils' test suite >> were taking far longer than they used to on rawhide. >> For example, run this command in an empty directory: >> >>  seq 20|env time xargs touch >> >> it take

Re: Proposed F18 feature: MiniDebugInfo

2012-05-07 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Mon, May 07, 2012 at 04:25:46PM +0200, Jan Kratochvil wrote: > On Mon, 07 May 2012 15:07:20 +0200, Alexander Larsson wrote: > > I just wrote a new Feature proposal for shipping minimal debug info by > > default: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/MiniDebugInfo > > The "several choices"

Re: Proposed F18 feature: MiniDebugInfo

2012-05-07 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Mon, 07 May 2012 15:07:20 +0200, Alexander Larsson wrote: > I just wrote a new Feature proposal for shipping minimal debug info by > default: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/MiniDebugInfo The "several choices" is missing the primary possibility of no debug info needed at the client si

Re: New libtiff version in rawhide, requires dependent packages rebuild

2012-05-07 Thread Tom Lane
Ralf Corsepius writes: > On 05/07/2012 10:08 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: >> On Mon, 07 May 2012 08:07:22 +0200, RC (Ralf) wrote: >>> Digging BZ, koji and googling did not turn up any formal FTBFS, however >>> when trying to rebuild OSG, it indeed fail to build due to an issue >>> which seems unrel

Transcient error in Koji/F15 (mock)

2012-05-07 Thread Patrick Monnerat
While packaging a new version of xca, the initial "fedpkg build" for F15 failed with error "BuildrootError: could not init mock buildroot, mock exited with status 4; see root.log for more information". See http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=4059840 I thus examined all the log files

Proposed F18 feature: MiniDebugInfo

2012-05-07 Thread Alexander Larsson
I just wrote a new Feature proposal for shipping minimal debug info by default: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/MiniDebugInfo The feature page lists some of the background and statistics. It also lists some options in how to implement this, which all have various different pros and cons. I

Re: rawhide ext4/virtio FS performance hit (10x slower) ?

2012-05-07 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 8:43 AM, Jim Meyering wrote: > Today I noticed that some tests from coreutils' test suite > were taking far longer than they used to on rawhide. > For example, run this command in an empty directory: > >  seq 20|env time xargs touch > > it takes < 5s on F17 3.3.4-1.fc17.

Re: F16->F17 preupgrade (Re: F17 Beta to slip by an additional week.)

2012-05-07 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi, 2012/5/2 Adam Williamson : [..] > So AIUI, you're saying preupgrade wasn't able to add an entry to grub1's > config for performing the upgrade? Exactly. > That could be filed as a bug, though > it probably wouldn't get high priority unless it also affects F15. Someone would have to verify i

rawhide ext4/virtio FS performance hit (10x slower) ?

2012-05-07 Thread Jim Meyering
Today I noticed that some tests from coreutils' test suite were taking far longer than they used to on rawhide. For example, run this command in an empty directory: seq 20|env time xargs touch it takes < 5s on F17 3.3.4-1.fc17.x86_64 ext4/sdb8/SSD, yet it takes 47s on rawhide 3.4.0-0.rc5.gi

[perl-Capture-Tiny] 0.18 bump

2012-05-07 Thread Petr Šabata
commit cf76ceaa85853ff912b517aad914481e8fd17ea8 Author: Petr Šabata Date: Mon May 7 13:53:52 2012 +0200 0.18 bump .gitignore |1 + perl-Capture-Tiny.spec |6 -- sources|2 +- 3 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/.git

File Capture-Tiny-0.18.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by psabata

2012-05-07 Thread Petr Šabata
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Capture-Tiny: 74760c1f86824080ae4059d6f471a092 Capture-Tiny-0.18.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mai

F-17 Branched report: 20120507 changes

2012-05-07 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Mon May 7 08:15:04 UTC 2012 Broken deps for x86_64 -- [LuxRender] LuxRender-blender-0.8.0-13.fc17.x86_64 requires blender(ABI) = 0:2.61 [aeolus-conductor] aeolus-conductor-0.4.0-2.fc17.noarch requires ruby(

Re: New libtiff version in rawhide, requires dependent packages rebuild

2012-05-07 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 05/07/2012 10:08 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Mon, 07 May 2012 08:07:22 +0200, RC (Ralf) wrote: On 05/06/2012 06:10 PM, Tom Lane wrote: I have pushed libtiff 4.0.1 into rawhide, replacing libtiff 3.9.5. This entails a library soname bump and a few small source-level incompatibilities, as

Re: New libtiff version in rawhide, requires dependent packages rebuild

2012-05-07 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 07 May 2012 08:07:22 +0200, RC (Ralf) wrote: > On 05/06/2012 06:10 PM, Tom Lane wrote: > > I have pushed libtiff 4.0.1 into rawhide, replacing libtiff 3.9.5. > > This entails a library soname bump and a few small source-level > > incompatibilities, as detailed at > > http://www.remotesensi

Re: New libtiff version in rawhide, requires dependent packages rebuild

2012-05-07 Thread Ankur Sinha
On Sun, 2012-05-06 at 12:10 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > ankursinha aeskulap Rebuilt for rawhide and f17. -- Thanks :-), Regards, Ankur: "FranciscoD" http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha http://dodoincfedora.wordpress.com/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message