Hi, folks. It seems about time to send out an overview of the Fedora 17
release status, and what's needed to get us there.
We're a long way behind on rolling a release candidate, because there
are several unaddressed blockers (accepted and proposed). See the
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_
On 05/10/2012 09:34 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On May 10, 2012, at 8:56 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
>> I'd say almost certainly yes. AIUI on any EFI system there's only ever a
>> reason to have _one_ EFI system partition.
> mactel-boot in effect creates an HFS+ /boot/efi partition, and does not use
On May 10, 2012, at 8:56 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> I'd say almost certainly yes. AIUI on any EFI system there's only ever a
> reason to have _one_ EFI system partition.
mactel-boot in effect creates an HFS+ /boot/efi partition, and does not use the
existing FAT32 EFI System partition. So the
On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 15:02 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> Is this a bug? If so I'll file it.
>
> When performing Replace Existing installation types, the 200MB HFS+ partition
> used for /boot/efi is not replaced. Instead, a new one is created each time.
>
> So if I perform five (5) Replace Existi
Just finished fixing an upgrade of F16 to F17, where I have xrdp running
under a custom resolution (i.e. the one that no known monitor would
normally use). It seems that this somehow confused Gnome (or maybe gnome
confused Xvnc, or xrdp or whatever) in F17, so it would basically
disconnect Xvnc (wh
On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 07:33 -0600, Tim Flink wrote:
> # F17 Final Blocker Review meeting #5
> # Date: 2012-05-11
> # Time: 17:00 UTC [1] (13:00 EDT, 10:00 PDT)
> # Location: #fedora-bugzappers on irc.freenode.net
>
>
> The next review meeting will be on Friday, 2012-05-11. We'll be running
> thro
On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 13:40 -0400, DJ Delorie wrote:
> > > Is this close enough?
> > >
> > > http://www.delorie.com/arm/f15-gnome-on-olpc.jpg
> >
> > That's GDM, and so useless unto the purpose. It's not accelerated.
>
> I could log in and got the fallback shell, but it all worked
> sufficiently
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On Thu, 10 May 2012 11:44:44 -0500
Matyas Selmeci wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm wondering about the meaning of the arch i386. Is it just a label,
> or are i386 packages still compiled to only use instructions that a
> 386 had? And if the latter, how come?
>
>
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 5:22 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> - Original Message -
>> On Wed, 2012-05-09 at 16:07 -0400, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
>> > > I know I've said this before, but: we should break the CD size
>> > > barrier
>> > > precisely so people can't burn things to CDs. If you must b
Chris Murphy wrote:
> Isn't it also true the Live CD is English only?
Most of the CDs carry translations, the KDE one does not though, due to how
KDE translations work (they sit in huge kde-l10n-* packages).
The idea is that you install from the live CD and then you install the
translation for
Adam Jackson wrote:
> Therefore I have difficulty evaluating just how much impact this would
> be. Do you have a link to the recipe for building such an image? I
> suspect the incremental cost of each additional desktop environment
> would be successively lower, but without data...
The DVD is co
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> fab gipfel fab vifir
Done
Kind regard,
Fabian
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Is this a bug? If so I'll file it.
When performing Replace Existing installation types, the 200MB HFS+ partition
used for /boot/efi is not replaced. Instead, a new one is created each time.
So if I perform five (5) Replace Existing installation types after the first
Fedora install, I end up wi
On Apr 29, 2012, at 6:20 AM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 01:53:19PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
>
>> New problem is that the successfully installed system (from LiveCD ISO
>> burned to DVD-RW media), upon reboot, does not eject the disc, rather
>> it boots from it not the H
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Greg McGary wrote:
> Minor conflict: the name of one of id-utils main commands "lid" is also the
> same as an existing command, though installed in a different place. id-utils
> has /usr/bin/lid, while libuser has /usr/sbin/lid.
Yeah, that's come up before. Ther
It would be great if GNU id-utils could be included in future Fedora releases.
id-utils is a long-standing GNU package that creates a database of program
identifiers, then allows queries from the command line or from an editor.
Its primary virtue is speed. Think of it as an optimized "grep" which
On 05/10/2012 04:56 AM, David Airlie wrote:
>
>
> - Original Message -
>> From: "Jon Masters"
>> To: "Development discussions related to Fedora"
>>
>> Cc: "Michel Alexandre Salim"
>> Sent: Wednesday, 9 May, 2012 10:57:30 PM
>> Subject: Re: Like C++? Not afraid of quirky build systems?
On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 13:40 -0400, DJ Delorie wrote:
> > > Is this close enough?
> > >
> > > http://www.delorie.com/arm/f15-gnome-on-olpc.jpg
> >
> > That's GDM, and so useless unto the purpose. It's not accelerated.
>
> I could log in and got the fallback shell, but it all worked
> sufficiently
> > Is this close enough?
> >
> > http://www.delorie.com/arm/f15-gnome-on-olpc.jpg
>
> That's GDM, and so useless unto the purpose. It's not accelerated.
I could log in and got the fallback shell, but it all worked
sufficiently well.
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On 05/10/2012 12:51 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On Thu, 10 May 2012 11:44:44 -0500
> Matyas Selmeci wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> I'm wondering about the meaning of the arch i386. Is it just a label,
>> or are i386 packages still compiled to only use instructions that a
>> 386 had? And if the latter, how come?
On Thu, 10 May 2012 11:44:44 -0500
Matyas Selmeci wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm wondering about the meaning of the arch i386. Is it just a label,
> or are i386 packages still compiled to only use instructions that a
> 386 had? And if the latter, how come?
In any place I can think of you seeing this in curr
On May 10, 2012, at 9:00 AM, Adam Jackson wrote:
> So the set of people we'd be inconveniencing is exactly the set of
> people with no bandwidth and the inability to boot from anything larger
> than a CD.
>
> Do we think that's a statistically significant number of people, or are
> we just argui
Hi,
I'm wondering about the meaning of the arch i386. Is it just a label, or
are i386 packages still compiled to only use instructions that a 386
had? And if the latter, how come?
Thanks,
-Matyas Selmeci
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On 05/10/2012 10:56 AM, Adam Jackson wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 12:08 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
>> drago01 wrote:
>>> Not really, you are restricting yourself by the artificial CD size limit.
>>> You don't have to use the full size of whatever bigger medium you
>>> choose (DVD, 1 or 2GB stick)
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On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Adam Jackson wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 09:16 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> > Adam Jackson wrote:
> > > Even if all of your objections are true, and who knows, they might be:
> > > we already do provide alternatives. The Live media is not the only
> > > instal
On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 09:16 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Adam Jackson wrote:
> > Even if all of your objections are true, and who knows, they might be:
> > we already do provide alternatives. The Live media is not the only
> > install media.
>
> The other alternatives are either already DVDs or n
On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 12:08 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> drago01 wrote:
> > Not really, you are restricting yourself by the artificial CD size limit.
> > You don't have to use the full size of whatever bigger medium you
> > choose (DVD, 1 or 2GB stick) but you are currently providing a poorer
> > u
On Wed, 2012-05-09 at 18:00 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
> Putting that another way, if we carried eglibc in Fedora, there would be
> cries and shouts if a large number of packages started requiring it
> because we have folks that maintain GLIBC.
I don't believe this is entirely accurate, since glib
Hi,
On 05/10/2012 03:26 PM, Jon Ciesla wrote:
I recently updated Io-language to the current release. Finally.
Anyway, TnL, which requires it, had been unable to run, at least for
me, and now I can't even get it to build. So unless someone else
wants to take a crack at it and fix it up, I'm go
# F17 Final Blocker Review meeting #5
# Date: 2012-05-11
# Time: 17:00 UTC [1] (13:00 EDT, 10:00 PDT)
# Location: #fedora-bugzappers on irc.freenode.net
The next review meeting will be on Friday, 2012-05-11. We'll be running
through the beta blockers and nice-to-haves. An updated list of blocker
I recently updated Io-language to the current release. Finally.
Anyway, TnL, which requires it, had been unable to run, at least for
me, and now I can't even get it to build. So unless someone else
wants to take a crack at it and fix it up, I'm going to retire it in a
few days. I'll be happy to
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On 05/09/2012 03:07 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
>> I know I've said this before, but: we should break the CD size
>> barrier
>> precisely so people can't burn things to CDs. If you must burn to
>> optical media, do yourself a favor and burn a DVD, the reduced seek
>> time
>> is entirely worth it.
>
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Hi
Quick note: rssh has a security bug unfixed by upstream and has been
orphaned
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=820415
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drago01 wrote:
> Not really, you are restricting yourself by the artificial CD size limit.
> You don't have to use the full size of whatever bigger medium you
> choose (DVD, 1 or 2GB stick) but you are currently providing a poorer
> user experience because you insist on a medium from the last centu
- Original Message -
> From: "Jon Masters"
> To: "Development discussions related to Fedora"
>
> Cc: "Michel Alexandre Salim"
> Sent: Wednesday, 9 May, 2012 10:57:30 PM
> Subject: Re: Like C++? Not afraid of quirky build systems? Seeking LLVM
> co-maintainers
>
> On 05/06/2012
On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 10:02 +0200, drago01 wrote:
> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> > I'd rather we just don't add yet another size overhead to every package. Our
> > packages keep growing and growing even without that. A few KiB here, a few
> > KiB there, in many packages,
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Alexander Larsson wrote:
>> Its not particularly hard to strip the debuginfo when constructing the
>> live image, although then installation from it will not really work as
>> the rpms checksums will be wrong.
>
> Indeed, that doesn't sound li
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 4:17 AM, DJ Delorie wrote:
>
>> Is LLVMpipe needed on, say, ARM? (Does anyone have a screenshot of
>> GNOME Shell running on such a system?).
>
> Is this close enough?
>
> http://www.delorie.com/arm/f15-gnome-on-olpc.jpg
And currently OLPC uses gnome-panel although there i
Alexander Larsson wrote:
> Its not particularly hard to strip the debuginfo when constructing the
> live image, although then installation from it will not really work as
> the rpms checksums will be wrong.
Indeed, that doesn't sound like a sane solution to me.
I'd rather we just don't add yet an
Adam Jackson wrote:
> Even if all of your objections are true, and who knows, they might be:
> we already do provide alternatives. The Live media is not the only
> install media.
The other alternatives are either already DVDs or netinstall CDs which
require a fast Internet connection (which peop
Matthias Clasen wrote:
> We could easily drop some of less-than-half-complete translations to
> make room for a bit of minidebuginfo. Last time I looked, translations,
> fonts, etc made up upwards of 25% of the livecd. Or we could just drop
> the obsolescent cdrom size limitation...
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