On 28 December 2014 at 19:32, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> On 12/29/2014 12:58 AM, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Alec Leamas
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hm... developers which never touches the terminal?! Seems like a
>>> really narrow group (?)
>>
>>
>> Not really. At a previous
On 28 December 2014 at 17:32, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> On 12/29/2014 12:58 AM, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Alec Leamas
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hm... developers which never touches the terminal?! Seems like a
>>> really narrow group (?)
>>>
>>
>> Not really. At a previo
On 12/29/2014 12:58 AM, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Alec Leamas wrote:
Hm... developers which never touches the terminal?! Seems like a
really narrow group (?)
Not really. At a previous workplace, we used two different IDEs for the
two programming languages we ne
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Am 29.12.2014 um 01:19 schrieb Peter Hutterer:
On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 09:42:07PM +0100, Alec Leamas wrote:
On 28/12/14 18:05, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Alec Leamas wrote:
Possibly. But isn't there quite a difference between the "novice user"
and the Fedora W
On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 09:42:07PM +0100, Alec Leamas wrote:
> On 28/12/14 18:05, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> >On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Alec Leamas wrote:
> >>Possibly. But isn't there quite a difference between the "novice user"
> >>and the Fedora Workstation target user i. e., developers?
On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Alec Leamas
wrote:
Hm... developers which never touches the terminal?! Seems like a
really
narrow group (?)
Not really. At a previous workplace, we used two different IDEs for the
two programming languages we needed to work with, and wrote GUI apps to
handle
Hi,
I with my friend (Vitaly Sulimov) developed easy application for
Android to use Fedora pastebin[0].
I often using my android device to do my work (help people in
irc/jabber, etc.) and I need send some code from phone. This is not
useful to do via web browser (I'm using FF).
So, we created app
Am 28.12.2014 um 22:13 schrieb Orcan Ogetbil:
On 28 December 2014 at 07:57, Richard Hughes wrote:
On 27 December 2014 at 23:17, Reindl Harald wrote:
having choices and options is the reason why people switch to Linux,
http://www.islinuxaboutchoice.com/
Oh please, no need for provocation...
On 12/28/2014 06:46 PM, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
One more note here: if you try to run a command line program that isn't
installed, PackageKit will search for it in all enabled repos, offer to
install it for you if found, and then run the command. It's really a
nice user experience,
I respectful
On 12-28-14 11:46:09 Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> One more note here: if you try to run a command line program that
> isn't installed, PackageKit will search for it in all enabled repos,
> offer to install it for you if found, and then run the command.
No real need when you can do:
$ sudo dnf i
On 28 December 2014 at 07:57, Richard Hughes wrote:
> On 27 December 2014 at 23:17, Reindl Harald wrote:
>> having choices and options is the reason why people switch to Linux,
>
> http://www.islinuxaboutchoice.com/
>
Oh please, no need for provocation... I was silently following this
thread but I
> On Dec 27, 2014, at 13:03, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
>
> Who else thinks that this part of texlive-base's %preinstall is not really
> such a hot idea:
>
> for i in `find /home/*/.texlive* -type d -prune`; do
> find $i -name *.fmt -type f | xargs rm -f > /dev/null 2>&1
> done
>
I'm... really
On Sat, Dec 27, 2014 at 7:15 PM, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> The question is: is it more confusing for novice users to include a
> graphical package manager by default, or to not include it?
tl;dr Oh absolutely it's confusing as well as incredibly frustrating.
I think software installations should
On 28/12/14 18:05, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Alec Leamas wrote:
Possibly. But isn't there quite a difference between the "novice user"
and the Fedora Workstation target user i. e., developers?
Not necessarily. I wrote:
"Yes, Workstation targets developers, but
2014-12-28 21:38 GMT+02:00 Michael Catanzaro :
> The workflow we have in F21 is this:
>
> * Firefox asks if you want to install the Flash plugin.
> * Firefox takes you directly to Adobe's download page for Flash.
> * The user magically knows to select YUM for Linux (YUM) and downloads the
> provid
On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Alexander Ploumistos
wrote:
2014-12-28 19:39 GMT+02:00 Michael Catanzaro :
I think that's past the line of what we can reasonably expect a
novice user to handle. Proprietary apps are always going to be tough
to install on Fedora, since they're not welcome in ou
2014-12-28 21:10 GMT+02:00 Alexander Ploumistos :
> 2014-12-28 19:39 GMT+02:00 Michael Catanzaro :
>
>> Your closing story, which I won't quote, was helpful. I'd argue it makes
>> a good case for shielding the user from normal packages with GNOME
>> Software, but I don't have a good answer for wha
2014-12-28 19:39 GMT+02:00 Michael Catanzaro :
> I think that's past the line of what we can reasonably expect a novice
> user to handle. Proprietary apps are always going to be tough to install on
> Fedora, since they're not welcome in our software center. And novices who
> install proprietary gr
Am 28.12.2014 um 18:39 schrieb Michael Catanzaro:
On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 11:08 AM, Alexander Ploumistos
How are user queries correlated to the package suggestions in the
dash? I do not always get what I would expect, e.g. when I type IDE, I
get Anjuta, Gnote and Rosegarden, with 3gp I get Frog
* p7zip, being a command-line tool, is something "normal users"
should never need. If Archive Manager needs it as a plugin, it can
install it with PackageKit if it's not detected, or it should be a
dependency in the RPM if Archive Manager doesn't support that.
Hunting down a magic package name
On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 11:08 AM, Alexander Ploumistos
wrote:
2014-12-28 15:02 GMT+02:00 Richard Hughes :
GNOME PackageKit is still available (and maintained upstream) and is
what I use for installing things like mingw packages that I need for
development. Just type "Packages" into the dash an
2014-12-28 15:02 GMT+02:00 Richard Hughes :
> GNOME PackageKit is still available (and maintained upstream) and is
> what I use for installing things like mingw packages that I need for
> development. Just type "Packages" into the dash and gnome-software
> will install it for you :)
>
Oh, that wa
On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Alec Leamas
wrote:
Possibly. But isn't there quite a difference between the "novice user"
and the Fedora Workstation target user i. e., developers?
Not necessarily. I wrote:
"Yes, Workstation targets developers, but not exclusively, and also
developers who us
On 27/12/14 23:26, Richard Hughes wrote:
On 26 December 2014 at 20:32, Alexander Ploumistos
If gnome-software aims to be novice-user-friendly, at least the latter should
definitely be an option.
I don't see the logic there, sorry. Novice users don't understand the
fine nuances of the design
Am 28.12.2014 um 13:57 schrieb Richard Hughes:
On 27 December 2014 at 23:17, Reindl Harald wrote:
having choices and options is the reason why people switch to Linux,
http://www.islinuxaboutchoice.com/
you can't dictate as developer the reason why users are making their
decisions, you can
On 28 December 2014 at 00:23, Alexander Ploumistos
wrote:
> Should Fedora build another program as a package manager
GNOME PackageKit is still available (and maintained upstream) and is
what I use for installing things like mingw packages that I need for
development. Just type "Packages" into the
On 27 December 2014 at 23:17, Reindl Harald wrote:
> having choices and options is the reason why people switch to Linux,
http://www.islinuxaboutchoice.com/
Richard
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