Re: F29 System Wide Change: Hide the grub menu

2018-06-19 Thread Gerald B. Cox
Here is another bug that was opened in 2014 and closed "WONTFIX because it was directly tied to F24. Here we are with F28 and it still exists: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1166978 Again, if we're concerned about the cleaning up of the boot process, why are we apparently ignoring b

Re: upcoming systemd-239 release — call for testing

2018-06-19 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2018-06-18 at 12:16 +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > Hi all, > > we plan to release systemd-239 wednesday-ish and it will be landing in > rawhide. There's a bunch of new functionality, see > https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/master/NEWS. As always, the > majority of commit

libdap 3.19.1 soname bump

2018-06-19 Thread Orion Poplawski
I'll be building libdap 3.19.1 soon in rawhide. This includes a soname bump so dependencies will be rebuilt as well. -- Orion Poplawski Manager of NWRA Technical Systems 720-772-5637 NWRA, Boulder/CoRA Office FAX: 303-415-9702 3380 Mitchell Lane or...@

Re: F29 System Wide Change: Strong crypto settings: phase 2

2018-06-19 Thread Paul Wouters
On Thu, 14 Jun 2018, Tomas Mraz wrote: On Wed, 2018-06-13 at 00:45 -0400, Paul Wouters wrote: I don't think TLS 1.3 will see a wide deployment immediately. Sure, the famous top websites and top browsers will, but enterprises will not. And especially those with any kind of loggin/auditing requ

Re: Heads up: Python 3.7 rebuild in progress

2018-06-19 Thread Jerry James
On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 3:42 AM Miro Hrončok wrote: > I'm now mass rebuilding everything. Will do a couple of rounds before I > will look at the logs. If you see you package failing for a > non-dependencies related reason, please try to fix it and rebuild it with: > > fedpkg build --target=f2

Fedora Rawhide-20180619.n.0 compose check report

2018-06-19 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Failed openQA tests: 4/138 (x86_64), 1/2 (arm) New failures (same test did not fail in Rawhide-20180617.n.0): ID: 250587 Test: x86_64 Server-boot-iso install_default URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/250587 ID: 250615 Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-

Re: Release criteria proposal: drop kickstart package criterion

2018-06-19 Thread Dusty Mabe
On 06/19/2018 08:33 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > A further update here: it appears releng, at least for the present, is > inclined to favour manual tagging of just the kickstarts for the actual > release compose. Given that, I think we should still have a release > criterion (since this will

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20180619.n.0 changes

2018-06-19 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20180617.n.0 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20180619.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:0 Dropped images: 7 Added packages: 3 Dropped packages:0 Upgraded packages: 209 Downgraded packages: 1 Size of added packages: 10.14 MiB Size of dropped packages:0

Re: Packages which call install-info in scriptlets

2018-06-19 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
Update to texinfo which should fix the problem with info nodes not automatically being removed: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2018-066a9994da Please test and give karma. - J< ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To u

Re: Release criteria proposal: drop kickstart package criterion

2018-06-19 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2018-06-12 at 12:11 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Mon, 2018-06-04 at 16:39 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > Hi, folks! > > > > We currently have a Final release criterion that reads as follows: > > > > "A spin-kickstarts package which contains the exact kickstart files > > used to b

Re: New FESCo Meeting Time and Ticket Policy

2018-06-19 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 2:56 PM Langdon White wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 2:42 PM Matthew Miller > wrote: >> >> On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 10:57:17AM -0400, Randy Barlow wrote: >> > I also believe we would be willing to reconsider this policy if it >> > doesn't work out in practice. We'r

Re: New FESCo Meeting Time and Ticket Policy

2018-06-19 Thread Langdon White
On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 2:42 PM Matthew Miller wrote: > On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 10:57:17AM -0400, Randy Barlow wrote: > > I also believe we would be willing to reconsider this policy if it > > doesn't work out in practice. We're really just looking for ways for us > > to operate more efficiently

Re: New FESCo Meeting Time and Ticket Policy

2018-06-19 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 10:57:17AM -0400, Randy Barlow wrote: > I also believe we would be willing to reconsider this policy if it > doesn't work out in practice. We're really just looking for ways for us > to operate more efficiently here. For that matter, if a decision is made and it later becom

Re: F29 System Wide Change: Build non-RELRO ELF binaries with .plt.got isolation

2018-06-19 Thread Florian Weimer
On 06/19/2018 03:24 PM, Peter Pentchev wrote: ...this came along. So what is supposed to stop an attacker who can inject arbitrary code into the program from modifying the keys? Or is this supposed to stop buffer-overflow exploits that overwrite the GOT and thus cause the attacker's code to be

Re: F29 System Wide Change: Make BootLoaderSpec the default

2018-06-19 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 3:40 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > The boot loader spec suggests that $BOOT and the ESP are the same > thing, and I am very sure this is the best and simplest approach for > all images that have no explicit reason to depart from that. However, > the spec does not actuall

Re: F29 System Wide Change: Make BootLoaderSpec the default

2018-06-19 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 5:37 PM, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: >> On Jun 18, 2018, at 3:54 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: >> Getting journal support in the bootloader isn't going to happen. I've >> already talked to the various fs upstreams about it. >> > > Why are you talking to the fs upstreams? The pro

Re: Heads up: Python 3.7 rebuild in progress

2018-06-19 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 19.6.2018 11:27, Miro Hrončok wrote: I'm now mass rebuilding everything. Will do a couple of rounds before I will look at the logs. If you see you package failing for a non-dependencies related reason, please try to fix it and rebuild it with:     fedpkg build --target=f29-python Feel fre

Re: New FESCo Meeting Time and Ticket Policy

2018-06-19 Thread Randy Barlow
On 06/18/2018 10:28 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > With the previous policy, any issues for FESCo would be tabled for a meeting > and announced on this list before the actual meeting. That gave a chance to > the community to comment on the ticket and/or attend the meeting to join the > discussion. Th

[F29 only] Dropping requirements for initscripts package from specfiles

2018-06-19 Thread David Kaspar [Dee'Kej]
Hello people, I'm working on making Fedora being able to function completely without the 'initscripts' package (hopefully) some day in the future. I have done some cleanup in initscripts recently, and I would like to ask maintainers of packages listed below to check if their package(s) still reall

[Bug 1567450] perl-Crypt-OpenSSL-Random-0.15 is available

2018-06-19 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1567450 Bug 1567450 depends on bug 1592426, which changed state. Bug 1592426 Summary: Review Request: perl-Crypt-OpenSSL-Guess - Guess OpenSSL include path https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1592426 What|Removed

Re: F29 System Wide Change: Build non-RELRO ELF binaries with .plt.got isolation

2018-06-19 Thread Peter Pentchev
On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 09:28:04AM +0200, Jan Kurik wrote: > = Proposed System Wide Change: Build non-RELRO ELF binaries with > .plt.got isolation = > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/.plt.got_Isolation > > > Owner(s): > * Florian Weimer > > > Fedora 23 enabled hardening for all packa

Re: New FESCo Meeting Time and Ticket Policy

2018-06-19 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 01:18:04PM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: > > > Dne 19.6.2018 v 12:37 Josh Boyer napsal(a): > > On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 3:48 AM Vít Ondruch wrote: > >> > >> > >> Dne 19.6.2018 v 04:28 Kevin Kofler napsal(a): > >>> Stephen Gallagher wrote: > * Most FESCo votes will be perf

Re: New FESCo Meeting Time and Ticket Policy

2018-06-19 Thread Jan Kurik
On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 12:37 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 3:48 AM Vít Ondruch wrote: >> >> >> >> Dne 19.6.2018 v 04:28 Kevin Kofler napsal(a): >> > Stephen Gallagher wrote: >> >> * Most FESCo votes will be performed in the tickets. FESCo members will >> >> have one week[1] fro

Re: New FESCo Meeting Time and Ticket Policy

2018-06-19 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 19.6.2018 v 12:37 Josh Boyer napsal(a): > On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 3:48 AM Vít Ondruch wrote: >> >> >> Dne 19.6.2018 v 04:28 Kevin Kofler napsal(a): >>> Stephen Gallagher wrote: * Most FESCo votes will be performed in the tickets. FESCo members will have one week[1] from the creatio

Re: F29 System Wide Change: Make BootLoaderSpec the default

2018-06-19 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Di, 19.06.18 11:14, Daniel P. Berrangé (berra...@redhat.com) wrote: > On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 11:48:39AM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > On Mo, 18.06.18 16:54, R P Herrold (herr...@owlriver.com) wrote: > > > > > On Mon, 18 Jun 2018, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > > > > > On Do, 14.06.18

Re: New FESCo Meeting Time and Ticket Policy

2018-06-19 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 3:48 AM Vít Ondruch wrote: > > > > Dne 19.6.2018 v 04:28 Kevin Kofler napsal(a): > > Stephen Gallagher wrote: > >> * Most FESCo votes will be performed in the tickets. FESCo members will > >> have one week[1] from the creation of the ticket to vote. So long as at > >> least

Re: [X86] Fwd: F29 System Wide Change: i686 Is For x86-64

2018-06-19 Thread Kevin Kofler
Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > If someone wants keep 32bit fedora alive for pre-sse2 hardware I think > the only reasonable thing would be to undust the i586 target, then go > build software which requires sse2 as --target i686 and everything else > as --target i586, i.e. basically stop the effort to patch

Re: F29 System Wide Change: Make BootLoaderSpec the default

2018-06-19 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 11:48:39AM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Mo, 18.06.18 16:54, R P Herrold (herr...@owlriver.com) wrote: > > > On Mon, 18 Jun 2018, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > > > On Do, 14.06.18 14:20, Chris Murphy (li...@colorremedies.com) wrote: > > > > > > > The cited BLS s

Re: F29 System Wide Change: Make BootLoaderSpec the default

2018-06-19 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mo, 18.06.18 16:54, R P Herrold (herr...@owlriver.com) wrote: > On Mon, 18 Jun 2018, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > On Do, 14.06.18 14:20, Chris Murphy (li...@colorremedies.com) wrote: > > > > > The cited BLS spec is the original one, [1] > > ... later: L.P.: > > [reduce] the size of the sp

Re: F29 System Wide Change: Make BootLoaderSpec the default

2018-06-19 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mo, 18.06.18 16:50, Ondřej Lysoněk (olyso...@redhat.com) wrote: > Hi, > > On 18.6.2018 15:27, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > On Do, 14.06.18 14:20, Chris Murphy (li...@colorremedies.com) wrote: > > > >> The cited BLS spec is the original one, not the more thoroughly > >> discussed and thought

Re: F29 System Wide Change: Make BootLoaderSpec the default

2018-06-19 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mo, 18.06.18 10:30, Chris Murphy (li...@colorremedies.com) wrote: > >> The cited BLS spec requires $BOOT be VFAT, are we doing that? > > > > Why would we? I mean the idea is that $BOOT can be shared among > > multiple OSes installed. Which means one really should settle on a > > format anyone c

Re: Heads up: Python 3.7 rebuild in progress

2018-06-19 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 13.6.2018 15:14, Miro Hrončok wrote: I've just started to build the bootstrap sequence in a side tag (f29-python). This should not affect you mostly but if you have a Python 3 package and you are going to update it with new buildtime dependencies, please let me know or wait until this is d

REMINDER: Fedora 29 Change Checkpoint: Proposal submission deadline (System Wide Changes) in two weeks

2018-06-19 Thread Jan Kurik
Hi everyone! The submission deadline for System Wide Change Proposals of Fedora 29 [1] is coming pretty soon - in two weeks on July 3rd. Please, submit your System Wide Changes by this deadline, earlier better. As the deadline applies for System Wide Changes it is always good to have most of Self

Today we have reached the Submission deadline for Change proposals of Fedora 29 requiring mass rebuild

2018-06-19 Thread Jan Kurik
Hi everyone! The submission deadline for Changes of Fedora 29 [1], requiring mass rebuild, takes effect today (on June 19th). All the Changes requiring mass rebuild sent for review are going to be moved to Fedora 30 release. The mass rebuild it self is planned on July 11th. In case you'll need an

F29 System Wide Change: Rename Atomic Workstation to Silverblue

2018-06-19 Thread Jan Kurik
= Proposed System Wide Change: Rename Atomic Workstation to Silverblue = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Silverblue Owner(s): * Matthias Clasen The Atomic Workstation variant is being renamed to Fedora Silverblue. == Detailed description == The Atomic Workstation is being rebranded

F29 Self Contained Change: glibc 32 Build Adjustments

2018-06-19 Thread Jan Kurik
= Proposed Self Contained Change: glibc 32 Build Adjustments = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/glibc32_Build_Adjustments Owner(s): * Florian Weimer The glibc32 package is a special package used by gcc and a few other packages to work around the lack of RPM multilib repository support

Re: [X86] Fwd: F29 System Wide Change: i686 Is For x86-64

2018-06-19 Thread Gerd Hoffmann
Hi, > > effort, and nobody outside of Fedora cares about non-SSE2 anymore. Even > > distros that claim to support non-SSE2 hardware just ship QtWebEngine as > > SSE2 only. I haven't seen any other distro even picking up my patch, let > > alone working on it. The Fedora Chromium, V8 and Node.j

Re: New FESCo Meeting Time and Ticket Policy

2018-06-19 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 19.6.2018 v 04:28 Kevin Kofler napsal(a): > Stephen Gallagher wrote: >> * Most FESCo votes will be performed in the tickets. FESCo members will >> have one week[1] from the creation of the ticket to vote. So long as at >> least three members have voted, the majority of votes at the end of tha