Fwd: Re: late generation of assemble code

2020-05-29 Thread Paul Dufresne via devel
had forgotten to reply also to the list... doing it now: [cut the part where it was suggested to make package that contains LLVM Intermediate Representation bitcode rather than CPU specific assembler] On 2020-05-29 1:01 a.m., John M. Harris Jr wrote: Paul, What benefit do you see in the over

Re: late generation of assemble code

2020-05-28 Thread Paul Dufresne via devel
On 2020-05-28 7:36 a.m., Dridi Boukelmoune wrote: On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 12:07 PM Jan Kratochvil wrote: On Sun, 24 May 2020 05:21:05 +0200, Paul Dufresne via devel wrote: The idea was to push code generation as near as possible of code execution. Because at execution time, you know what are

Re: Does the installer detects when a distro have already created BLS?

2020-05-25 Thread Paul Dufresne via devel
First I'd like to thanks people that made me realize I was confusing the GPT's partition type GUID and GPT's Unique partition GUID. And to also mention the filesystem UID. Because Fedora choose not to apply the BLS partition type GUID or BLS MBR type id, I believe we generate the following con

Re: Does the installer detects when a distro have already created BLS?

2020-05-24 Thread Paul Dufresne via devel
Le 20-05-24 à 19 h 34, Naheem Zaffar a écrit : The change record for this states that we are not following the BLS at https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/BootLoaderSpec/ but the proposed update at https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/MatthewGarrett/BootLoaderSpec/ . Thanks for remembe

Re: Does the installer detects when a distro have already created BLS?

2020-05-24 Thread Paul Dufresne via devel
Well... I will try to repeat more clearly my claim: If Fedora want to pretend to implement the Boot Loader Specification, it must, on a new disk formatted in GPT, end up with an entry in fstab for an ESP partition mounted on /boot: "These directories are defined below the placeholder file sys

Re: How to debug live CD image?

2020-05-24 Thread Paul Dufresne via devel
Le 20-05-24 à 05 h 47, Barry Scott a écrit : ... But I cannot boot a live CD image as it gets stuck in "Monitoring of LVM2 mirrors, ...". This is not a new problem I have seen this for a couple of Fedora releases, but not reported it before. Is it possible you don't wait enough, that is about 8

Re: Does the installer detects when a distro have already created BLS?

2020-05-24 Thread Paul Dufresne via devel
I have installed the May 22 Rawhide on a disk today, and I am now realizing that the installer did not helped me enough to create valid Boot Loader Specification partitions. So I wanted (still want) to make this disk dual boot (Fedora and NixOS). Because NixOS does not follows BLS (I think...

Does the installer detects when a distro have already created BLS?

2020-05-24 Thread Paul Dufresne via devel
Well... it take time to me to get used to the Boot Loader Specification. I am being lazy here... asking people on the mailing list rather than trying to determine it myself. After making an installation of Fedora, I begin to think: Hey, I don't remember having seen the installer like detectin

Re: late generation of assemble code

2020-05-23 Thread Paul Dufresne via devel
On 5/23/20 11:26 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 11:22 PM Paul Dufresne via devel > wrote: ... > It's completely toast on Linux for the same reason FatELF was: nobody liked > it. ... I think this is different than FatELF. The idea of FatELF, is that it conta

late generation of assemble code

2020-05-23 Thread Paul Dufresne via devel
I sometime ask myself what have happened to the "LLVM dream"? The idea of LLVM was not to be *just* an intermediate language for the compiler. The idea was to push code generation as near as possible of code execution. Because at execution time, you know what are the specific features of the C

Re: The price of FHS

2020-05-22 Thread Paul Dufresne via devel
On 5/22/20 4:22 PM, Parker Gibson wrote: I don’t think this is specifically about FHS as it is about shared library management. The underlying hierarchy defined in FHS doesn’t make the dictations about version management that you seem to indicate, nor are the major problems with maintaining mu

The price of FHS

2020-05-22 Thread Paul Dufresne via devel
The File Hierarchy Standard (FHS), is a standard that define where the files of a package should be placed in the root directory of the systems. It probably did not change much since the beginning of Unix, and it make files be placed where users, developers and administrators expect them to be.

Re: f32-backgrounds look like crap

2020-04-19 Thread Paul Dufresne via devel
Le 20-04-17 à 09 h 09, Benson Muite a écrit : On Fri, Apr 17, 2020, at 4:02 PM, Leigh Scott wrote: Elections for alternative wallpapers are currently open: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/nuancier/elections/ Please vote for ones that you like. Is the default wallpaper the result of a vote, or only

Nvidia 440.82 came out today

2020-04-07 Thread Paul Dufresne via devel
I saw that Nvidia published version 440.82 of their drivers today. Last one was 440.62 released on February 28. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Co

bad exemple of package using a forge Was: Re: Urgently downgrade xorg-x11-drv-intel

2020-04-07 Thread Paul Dufresne via devel
|Le 20-04-06 à 21 h 01, Paul Dufresne a écrit :> BTW, thanks I was searching for an example of package using a git||version rather than a released archive!|| | |Just for the record, *I think* the current package is a bad example of a package using a forge like git.||| || |Current https://s

Re: Urgently downgrade xorg-x11-drv-intel

2020-04-06 Thread Paul Dufresne via devel
Le 20-04-06 à 15 h 34, Adam Jackson a écrit : On Mon, 2020-04-06 at 13:46 -0400, Alexei Podtelezhnikov wrote: I think we have a fix for that. Let me poke at things a bit. Have read: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Mesa-i915-OpenGL-2-Drop In the link Alexei posted to Arc

Re: Urgently downgrade xorg-x11-drv-intel

2020-04-06 Thread Paul Dufresne via devel
Le 20-04-06 à 15 h 34, Adam Jackson a écrit : On Mon, 2020-04-06 at 13:46 -0400, Alexei Podtelezhnikov wrote: Xorg does not start without xorg-x11-drv-intel on GMA 3150. OpenGL 2.1 used to be enabled on this hardware, but got dropped I think we have a fix for that. Let me poke at things a bit.

Re: Urgently downgrade xorg-x11-drv-intel

2020-04-06 Thread Paul Dufresne via devel
Le 20-04-06 à 10 h 04, Tomasz Torcz a écrit : On Mon, Apr 06, 2020 at 09:27:58AM -0400, Alexei Podtelezhnikov wrote: Are they? We stopped using intel driver around F26, we use modesetting for Intel GPUs now. The above is clearly non-default configuratiob. I am far from an expert on the subj

Re: Change the way to acquire the keys for package upgrades [changed]

2020-04-03 Thread Paul Dufresne via devel
Le 20-04-02 à 13 h 30, Samuel Sieb a écrit : The problem is that in the past there have been some packages that have had to be updated first to successfully do the upgrade.  As Kamil said, the list can change at any time.  The easiest way to ensure the upgrade works is to make sure that your c

Re: Change the way to acquire the keys for package upgrades [changed]

2020-04-02 Thread Paul Dufresne via devel
Le 20-04-02 à 07 h 01, Kamil Paral a écrit : We failed to convince gnome-software maintainer to do the same: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1336435 Well, actually I am more on the opposite side of you on this. I am more like not wanting to updates so many packages for current ver

Could gnome-software update fedora-gpg-keys before upgrading to next version?

2020-04-02 Thread Paul Dufresne via devel
I tried to upgrade from F30 to F32 without doing updates first, and I got: gnome-software[2045]: not handling error download-failed for action refine: failed to refine distro upgrade: Failed to download gpg key for repo 'fedora': Curl error (37): Couldn't read a file:// file for file:///etc/pki

Re : kinit: Password incorrect while getting initial credentials

2020-03-30 Thread Paul Dufresne via devel
Thanks to the person who suggested to change password in the web interface (at least once, rather than changing by forgotten password). I did the trick and now kinit works!___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an em

kinit: Password incorrect while getting initial credentials

2020-03-30 Thread Paul Dufresne via devel
I am trying to follow instructions at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join_the_package_collection_maintainers But when I do: [paul@localhost ~]$ kinit pa...@fedoraproject.org I get: Password for pa...@fedoraproject.org: kinit: Password incorrect while getting initial credentials [paul@localhost ~

Re: Coq build issues in F32

2020-03-25 Thread Paul Dufresne via devel
Le Wed, 25 Mar 2020 16:58:33 -0600, Jerry James a écrit : > Either I got lucky when I launched the Rawhide build, or something is > fundamentally different between F32 and Rawhide. Clearly something > nondeterministic is at work. I have been unable to reproduce this > failure in mock so far, but

Re: Bugzilla signal/noise ratio

2020-03-20 Thread Paul Dufresne via devel
> Closing a bug doesn't clear the needinfo. Change the ? to blank under > flags (or I'm happy to clear it for you if you'd like). Ok, I have done it. But I believe the outstanding bugs reminder should not include closed bugs! ___ devel mailing list -

Re: Bugzilla signal/noise ratio

2020-03-20 Thread Paul Dufresne via devel
About outstanding bugs... In my opinion, the frequency at which it is sent: every day, is way too often. For me, once a month would make more sense. Maybe... maybe once a week. For me, the message contains this is a one bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1700171 For most of the las