On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 4:16 PM Stephen Gallagher wrote:
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> On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 10:25 AM Stephen Gallagher
> wrote:
> >
> > ELN Special Interest Group (SIG)
> ...
> > A weekly meeting time will be reserved for the ELN SIG to meet. However, it
> > will be canceled if there are no issues tag
On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 10:25 AM Stephen Gallagher wrote:
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> ELN Special Interest Group (SIG)
...
> A weekly meeting time will be reserved for the ELN SIG to meet. However, it
> will be canceled if there are no issues tagged with the meeting label. The
> meeting time will be selected by a publi
On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 07:19:13AM -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> * All Fedora hardware resources are provided/funded by Red Hat, Inc.
> * This project is taking place within the Fedora community and infrastructure.
> * This project is clearly beneficial to Red Hat, Inc.
> * Projects beneficial
On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 10:25 AM Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> Is this a Fedora project or a Red Hat project using Fedora resources?
>
> Yes.
OK, so this was meant to be a tongue-in-cheek joke as a way to
acknowledge the question that came up in the original ELN discussions
and identify that the ans
On Sat, 13 Feb 2021 at 17:01, Kevin Kofler via devel <
devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> > In written English the word 'or' is not exclusive and 'yes' is a synonym
> > for 'TRUE'. Basically the question is Stephen trying a CS pun with that
> > of
> >
> > Is thi
On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 10:42:51PM +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
> Why would I bother signing up for such a license if I will be able (very
> likely before the CentOS 8 EOL) to just download Rocky Linux the same way I
> can download Fedora or Debian?
That's fine too -- it *is* open source
Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
> And ELN leeching Fedora hardware infrastructure that is actually paid by
> Red Hat to begin with is one thing, but Stephen Gallagher's announcement
> goes as far as attempting to leech unpaid community manpower.
PS: But even if this attempt at poaching community vol
On 13. 02. 21 23:00, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
And ELN leeching Fedora hardware infrastructure that is actually paid by Red
Hat to begin with is one thing, but Stephen Gallagher's announcement goes as
far as attempting to leech unpaid community manpower.
That claim is simply not true. Steph
Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> In written English the word 'or' is not exclusive and 'yes' is a synonym
> for 'TRUE'. Basically the question is Stephen trying a CS pun with that
> of
>
> Is this a Fedora project || a Red Hat project using Fedora resources.
>
> It would evaluate as TRUE/yes in eit
Gary Buhrmaster wrote:
> Perhaps you missed the announcement that "small"
> production environments (up to 16? servers) are now
> "free" under the RH developer licensees. That may
> not be a lot of servers for the hyperscallers, but
> for smaller deployments it may cover you. Should
> I have chos
On Fri, 12 Feb 2021 at 19:59, Kevin Kofler via devel <
devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> > Is this a Fedora project or a Red Hat project using Fedora resources?
> >
> > Yes.
>
> "Yes" is not a valid answer to that "or" question.
>
>
In written English the word 'or
Den lör 13 feb. 2021 kl 02:10 skrev Kevin Kofler via devel <
devel@lists.fedoraproject.org>:
> Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
> > And why would I want to do Red Hat's / IBM's work for free?
> >
> > Contributing to Fedora provides value to me because I use Fedora myself.
> > In contrast, what would
On 13. 02. 21 1:57, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
Do I need to be employed by Red Hat to be a member of the ELN SIG?
No, anyone with an interest in helping will be welcomed enthusiastically!
And why would I want to do Red Hat's / IBM's work for free?
Contributing to Fedora provides value to me
On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 1:10 AM Kevin Kofler via devel
wrote:
>
> Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
> > And why would I want to do Red Hat's / IBM's work for free?
> >
> > Contributing to Fedora provides value to me because I use Fedora myself.
> > In contrast, what would I gain from contributing to E
Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
> And why would I want to do Red Hat's / IBM's work for free?
>
> Contributing to Fedora provides value to me because I use Fedora myself.
> In contrast, what would I gain from contributing to ELN?
PS: Especially considering that the stable product Red Hat / IBM expe
Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> Is this a Fedora project or a Red Hat project using Fedora resources?
>
> Yes.
"Yes" is not a valid answer to that "or" question.
> Do I need to be employed by Red Hat to be a member of the ELN SIG?
>
> No, anyone with an interest in helping will be welcomed enthusias
On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 12:29:45PM -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> We can hash out any additional rules (such as whether retaining
> membership over time has requirements) at the meetings.
Based on experience, I strongly recommend at minimum a requirement for
anyone who has not been active by so
On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 12:07 PM Miro Hrončok wrote:
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> On 12. 02. 21 16:25, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> >
> > Meeting Decisions
> >
> > Any proposal brought to a meeting will be discussed live at that meeting and
> > then will pass or be rejected by a majority vote of those SIG members
> > p
On 12. 02. 21 16:25, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
Meeting Decisions
Any proposal brought to a meeting will be discussed live at that meeting and
then will pass or be rejected by a majority vote of those SIG members present
(requiring a minimum of three SIG members for a quorum). A vote of +1
ELN Special Interest Group (SIG)
Mission
The goal of ELN (Enterprise Linux Next) is to achieve a continuously
bootstrappable RHEL release. Using the classic approach, RHEL is forked
from Fedora and developed privately for some extended time before it
re-emerges fully formed as a Product. Instead,
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