Re: Fedora Installation Needs Intelligence

2014-12-15 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 12:48:59 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: Ultimately the user would have to go down the road of entirely proprietary drivers for such wireless cards. They still seem to be rather prolific. I have one in a laptop I inherited. I just needed to put the firmware in /usr/lib/fi

Re: Fedora Installation Needs Intelligence

2014-12-15 Thread Chris Murphy
On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 4:57 AM, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: > There are still wireless cards which do not work with Linux out of box? > (assuming that firmware is provided) I haven't checked anything newer than 18 months, but Apple hardware for a long time needs proprietary b43 firmware installed

Re: Fedora Installation Needs Intelligence

2014-12-15 Thread Corey Sheldon
if its the dell wifi its b43 or wl pkgs you need ive run into that before on dells Corey W Sheldon Freelance IT Consultant, Multi-Discipline Tutor 310.909.7672 www.facebook.com/1stclassmobileshine -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: GnuPG v1 mQSuBFSFm3MRDADMQUFvE2zeREEV2+mARfGttXR0

Re: Fedora Installation Needs Intelligence

2014-12-13 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 12/12/2014 03:57 AM, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: There are still wireless cards which do not work with Linux out of box? (assuming that firmware is provided) The firmware is the problem. There are some Broadcom chipsets that need firmware to work, but that firmware is not allowed to be distri

Re: Fedora Installation Needs Intelligence

2014-12-13 Thread Garry T. Williams
On 12-12-14 08:25:56 Jan Kratochvil wrote: > On Fri, 12 Dec 2014 08:17:45 +0100, Satyajit Sahoo wrote: > > Wireless is a requirement for laptops. For example, Macbook Air > > doesn't have an ethernet port. > > s/requirement for laptops/requirement for Macbook Air/ Well, my Dell XPS-13 didn't come

Re: Fedora Installation Needs Intelligence

2014-12-12 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
W dniu 12.12.2014 o 08:32, Satyajit Sahoo pisze: > Okay, forget Macbook Air. I don't have ethernet at my office, and it's the > only place where I have internet. What can I do then? You can boot one machine to any other OS, grab ISO from Fedora website and put it on DVD or USB stick (there are in

Re: Fedora Installation Needs Intelligence

2014-12-12 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 05:37:52PM -0700, john.tiger wrote: > 7) Give option to save successful install in a simple install > config file for multiple similar machines FWIW, tbis is actually done every time, automatically -- you'll find a kickstart file in ~root on the installed system. > 8) te

Re: Fedora Installation Needs Intelligence

2014-12-12 Thread Miroslav Suchý
On 12/12/2014 08:32 AM, Satyajit Sahoo wrote: > Wireless might not be a strict requirement, but still essential. I have some machines which does not have internet at all. So for some user it is not essential at all. It is hard to please everybody :) -- Miroslav Suchy, RHCE, RHCDS Red Hat, Senio

Re: Fedora Installation Needs Intelligence

2014-12-11 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 12/12/2014 08:25 AM, Jan Kratochvil wrote: On Fri, 12 Dec 2014 08:17:45 +0100, Satyajit Sahoo wrote: Wireless is a requirement for laptops. For example, Macbook Air doesn't have an ethernet port. s/requirement for laptops/requirement for Macbook Air/ No. These days, many (esp. low-end) note

Re: Fedora Installation Needs Intelligence

2014-12-11 Thread Satyajit Sahoo
Okay, forget Macbook Air. I don't have ethernet at my office, and it's the only place where I have internet. What can I do then? Wireless might not be a strict requirement, but still essential. Also, why did Macbook Air come to the "Not laptop" category? On 12 December 2014 at 12:55, Jan Kratoch

Re: Fedora Installation Needs Intelligence

2014-12-11 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Fri, 12 Dec 2014 08:17:45 +0100, Satyajit Sahoo wrote: > Wireless is a requirement for laptops. For example, Macbook Air doesn't > have an ethernet port. s/requirement for laptops/requirement for Macbook Air/ Sure the installer could be improved but slightly differently (soft warning if there

Re: Fedora Installation Needs Intelligence

2014-12-11 Thread Satyajit Sahoo
Wireless is a requirement for laptops. For example, Macbook Air doesn't have an ethernet port. On 12 December 2014 at 12:44, Jan Kratochvil wrote: > > On Fri, 12 Dec 2014 01:37:52 +0100, john.tiger wrote: > > 2) If key requirement is missing / insufficient then pop > > suggestion - if it's a non

Re: Fedora Installation Needs Intelligence

2014-12-11 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Fri, 12 Dec 2014 01:37:52 +0100, john.tiger wrote: > 2) If key requirement is missing / insufficient then pop > suggestion - if it's a non shipping proprietary issue, then provide popup > dialog info and links to get problem solved - none of the current "go look > it up" - needs the right info r

Re: Fedora Installation Needs Intelligence

2014-12-11 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 22:26:50 -0500, Corey Sheldon wrote: also, seeing as much of that is in the Install Guide and/or release notes it is expected the user will check that and that extra documentation on the live takes up space fast and size constraints do exist for ISOs Most of the lives

Re: Fedora Installation Needs Intelligence

2014-12-11 Thread Corey Sheldon
also, seeing as much of that is in the Install Guide and/or release notes it is expected the user will check that and that extra documentation on the live takes up space fast and size constraints do exist for ISOs Corey W Sheldon Freelance IT Consultant, Multi-Discipline Tutor 310.909.7672 www.fac

Re: Fedora Installation Needs Intelligence

2014-12-11 Thread Alexander Ploumistos
2014-12-12 2:37 GMT+02:00 john.tiger : > Am willing to work on this - can mock up the input screens - just point > the direction of how to help > Then you should get in touch with the Anaconda team: fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admi

Fedora Installation Needs Intelligence

2014-12-11 Thread john.tiger
As an AI guy, it's been frustrating that installing Fedora on my Macbook has been 3 days and counting, a living hell, and still not right (still can't get wireless to work not having eth0 available) - I've come to realize the installer is "stupid" from an intelligence standpoint. Installing Fe