Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-15 Thread Jan Zelený
On 14. 1. 2014 at 23:21:15, Peter Oliver wrote: > On Mon, 13 Jan 2014, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > > On 01/13/2014 09:57 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: > >> On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 09:53:53 +0100 > >> > >> Miroslav Suchý wrote: > >>> On 01/13/2014 08:56 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: > to be certain you can do "d

Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-14 Thread Peter Oliver
On Mon, 13 Jan 2014, Miroslav Suchý wrote: On 01/13/2014 09:57 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 09:53:53 +0100 Miroslav Suchý wrote: On 01/13/2014 08:56 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: to be certain you can do "dnf(yum) --enablerepo=* clean all" if your intention is truly to remove all c

Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-13 Thread Frank Murphy
On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 10:16:52 -0800 Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > You can also "after some research" > > modify the dnf-makecache.service file > > to change the frequency of makecache. > > It's a lot cleaner to just define a metadata expiry time in the > repository config file. Discovered aft

Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-13 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2014-01-13 at 08:45 +, Frank Murphy wrote: > On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 14:06:30 -0500 > "Garry T. Williams" wrote: > > > > > > sudo dnf --enablerepo=updates-testing clean expire-cache > > sudo dnf --enablerepo=updates-testing upgrade kernel\* > > > > You can also "after some res

Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-13 Thread Frank Murphy
On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 14:38:39 +0100 Miroslav Suchý wrote: > No. This command is accepted (to my surprise). But it delete nothing. > And just create new directory sturcture in '/var/cache/yum/x86_64/*'. > That does suck then if someone with more that F20 cache needs to clean. as Harald posted yo

Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-13 Thread Miroslav Suchý
On 01/13/2014 09:57 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: > On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 09:53:53 +0100 > Miroslav Suchý wrote: > >> On 01/13/2014 08:56 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: >>> to be certain you can do "dnf(yum) --enablerepo=* clean all" >>> if your intention is truly to remove all cache. >> >> Not true if you ever

Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-13 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 13.01.2014 09:57, schrieb Frank Murphy: > On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 09:53:53 +0100 > Miroslav Suchý wrote: > >> On 01/13/2014 08:56 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: >>> to be certain you can do "dnf(yum) --enablerepo=* clean all" >>> if your intention is truly to remove all cache. >> >> Not true if you ever

Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-13 Thread Tom Hughes
On 13/01/14 10:14, Frank Murphy wrote: On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 09:33:09 + Tom Hughes wrote: You can also "after some research" modify the dnf-makecache.service file to change the frequency of makecache. I don't think that will help as that service simply controls when it considers updating -

Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-13 Thread Frank Murphy
On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 09:33:09 + Tom Hughes wrote: > > You can also "after some research" > > modify the dnf-makecache.service file > > to change the frequency of makecache. > > I don't think that will help as that service simply controls when it > considers updating - the expire_metadata set

Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-13 Thread Frank Murphy
On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 09:51:27 + Frank Murphy wrote: > Where is this setting? > besides metadata expire in *.repos. > I couldn't find in on the wiki Duh! man 8 dnf.conf, so behaviour can be changed without running dnf clean * && dnf update for those that may want it, by adding it in. ___ Re

Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-13 Thread Frank Murphy
On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 09:33:09 + Tom Hughes wrote: the expire_metadata setting still applies, Where is this setting? besides metadata expire in *.repos. I couldn't find in on the wiki ___ Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.f

Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-13 Thread Tom Hughes
On 13/01/14 08:45, Frank Murphy wrote: On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 14:06:30 -0500 "Garry T. Williams" wrote: sudo dnf --enablerepo=updates-testing clean expire-cache sudo dnf --enablerepo=updates-testing upgrade kernel\* You can also "after some research" modify the dnf-makecache.service f

Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-13 Thread Frank Murphy
On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 09:53:53 +0100 Miroslav Suchý wrote: > On 01/13/2014 08:56 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: > > to be certain you can do "dnf(yum) --enablerepo=* clean all" > > if your intention is truly to remove all cache. > > Not true if you ever used --releasever option. > dnf --enablerepo=* --

Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-13 Thread Miroslav Suchý
On 01/13/2014 07:32 AM, Miroslav Suchy wrote: > > Let leave yum as is, but let try to redefine this behavior for dnf: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1052020 If you want this change please vote for this bug (by adding yourself to CC of that bug). Otherwise it will stay as CLOSED WO

Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-13 Thread Miroslav Suchý
On 01/13/2014 08:56 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: > to be certain you can do "dnf(yum) --enablerepo=* clean all" > if your intention is truly to remove all cache. Not true if you ever used --releasever option. -- Miroslav Suchy, RHCE, RHCDS Red Hat, Software Engineer, #brno, #devexp, #fedora-buildsys

Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-13 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 14:06:30 -0500 "Garry T. Williams" wrote: > > sudo dnf --enablerepo=updates-testing clean expire-cache > sudo dnf --enablerepo=updates-testing upgrade kernel\* > You can also "after some research" modify the dnf-makecache.service file to change the frequency of ma

Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-13 Thread Frank Murphy
On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 09:36:38 +0100 Alec Leamas wrote: > If you continue reading the thread you'll see what happened (short > story: too late fo rme) > --alec > > Refreshing my email would have helped, too early for me :( ___ Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- devel mailing list devel@list

Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-13 Thread Alec Leamas
If you continue reading the thread you'll see what happened (short story: too late fo rme) --alec On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: > On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 00:43:13 +0100 > Alec Leamas wrote: > > > First of all, this is not, and have never been a question of disabled > > repos

Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-12 Thread Frank Murphy
On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 00:43:13 +0100 Alec Leamas wrote: > First of all, this is not, and have never been a question of disabled > repos. Or should not have. "yum clean all" refers to cleaning all > metadata, not all repos. It only operates on one single repo, be it > implicit (the default link) or

Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-12 Thread Frank Murphy
On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 07:51:22 +0200 Ahmad Samir wrote: > Right, I missed that bit. > > > to be certain you can do "dnf(yum) --enablerepo=* clean all" if your intention is truly to remove all cache. ___ Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org http

Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-12 Thread Miroslav Suchy
On 01/12/2014 11:23 PM, Alec Leamas wrote: Well, IMHO the docs are actually quite clear on that 'all' refers to all metadata rather than all repositories. That said, perhaps enough people has been confused by this to make some kind of improvement motivated. Let leave yum as is, but let try to

Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-12 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 12 January 2014 21:27, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 12.01.2014 20:24, schrieb Ahmad Samir: >> On 12 January 2014 21:06, Garry T. Williams wrote: >>> On 1-12-14 18:18:00 M A Young wrote: On Sun, 12 Jan 2014, Garry T. Williams wrote: > On 1-9-14 15:43:50 Ales Kozumplik wrote: >> New

Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-12 Thread Alec Leamas
Yes, sorry, forget what I wrote. I messed up mock with yum, that's why. It's too late for me to chime in here. Sorry for the noise. On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 12:49 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 13.01.2014 00:43, schrieb Alec Leamas: > > First of all, this is not, and have never been a question

Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-12 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 13.01.2014 00:43, schrieb Alec Leamas: > First of all, this is not, and have never been a question of disabled repos. > Or should not have. "yum clean all" > refers to cleaning all metadata, not all repos. It only operates on one > single repo, be it implicit (the default > link) or an expli

Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-12 Thread Alec Leamas
First of all, this is not, and have never been a question of disabled repos. Or should not have. "yum clean all" refers to cleaning all metadata, not all repos. It only operates on one single repo, be it implicit (the default link) or an explicit -r option. This is what confuses. I know: been the

Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-12 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 13.01.2014 00:17, schrieb Orcan Ogetbil: > On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 5:23 PM, Alec Leamas wrote: >> Well, IMHO the docs are actually quite clear on that 'all' refers to all >> metadata rather than all repositories. >> >> That said, perhaps enough people has been confused by this to make some kin

Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-12 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 5:23 PM, Alec Leamas wrote: > Well, IMHO the docs are actually quite clear on that 'all' refers to all > metadata rather than all repositories. > > That said, perhaps enough people has been confused by this to make some kind > of improvement motivated. > I am pretty sure if

Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-12 Thread Alec Leamas
Well, IMHO the docs are actually quite clear on that 'all' refers to all metadata rather than all repositories. That said, perhaps enough people has been confused by this to make some kind of improvement motivated. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.o

Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-12 Thread Reindl Harald
from a developers point of view the current behavior is clear and perfect "what is not enabled is handeled as it would not exist" means: repos with "enabled=0" are completly ignored until --enablrepo with no but and if - clear and straight logical decision from a users point of view "all" has a d

Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-12 Thread Alec Leamas
I have come to understand that for yum, commands like clean only applies to the actual buildroot. So without a -r argument, the cleaning is done on the default root, whatever this might be(?). Actually, there is probably nothing wrong with this - it works fine when using the -r option. Problems co

Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-12 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 12.01.2014 22:42, schrieb Miroslav Suchy: > On 01/12/2014 08:27 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> "dnf clean all" without "dnf --enablerepo=updates-testing clean all" does >> exactly *nothing* in case of "updates-testing", the same for YUM simply >> because folders of non-enabled repos are not relev

Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-12 Thread Miroslav Suchy
On 01/12/2014 08:27 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: "dnf clean all" without "dnf --enablerepo=updates-testing clean all" does exactly*nothing* in case of "updates-testing", the same for YUM simply because folders of non-enabled repos are not relevant for any operation And is this correct behavior? (a

Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-12 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 12.01.2014 21:38, schrieb Garry T. Williams: > On 1-12-14 20:27:26 Reindl Harald wrote: >> "dnf clean all" without "dnf --enablerepo=updates-testing clean all" >> does exactly *nothing* in case of "updates-testing", the same for >> YUM simply because folders of non-enabled repos are not releva

Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-12 Thread Garry T. Williams
On 1-12-14 20:27:26 Reindl Harald wrote: > "dnf clean all" without "dnf --enablerepo=updates-testing clean all" > does exactly *nothing* in case of "updates-testing", the same for > YUM simply because folders of non-enabled repos are not relevant for > any operation Yeah, I feel pretty stupid now.

Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-12 Thread Tom Hughes
On 12/01/14 19:28, Garry T. Williams wrote: And yes, as Michael commented, dnf doesn't expire meta-data as often as yum. It's quite a big difference as well - yum is 6 hours and dnf is 48 hours by default. So if you're used to running update once a day then you'll find it will only work ev

Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-12 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 12.01.2014 20:24, schrieb Ahmad Samir: > On 12 January 2014 21:06, Garry T. Williams wrote: >> On 1-12-14 18:18:00 M A Young wrote: >>> On Sun, 12 Jan 2014, Garry T. Williams wrote: On 1-9-14 15:43:50 Ales Kozumplik wrote: > New DNF release is out. See the blog [1], the release notes

Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-12 Thread Garry T. Williams
On 1-12-14 11:30:31 you wrote: > On 1-9-14 15:43:50 Ales Kozumplik wrote: > > New DNF release is out. See the blog [1], the release notes [2] and > > the F20 update [3]. Rawhide build went smooth this time too! > > I see this using 0.4.11. What am I doing wrong? [snip] > garry@vfr$ sudo dnf cle

Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-12 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 12 January 2014 21:06, Garry T. Williams wrote: > On 1-12-14 18:18:00 M A Young wrote: >> On Sun, 12 Jan 2014, Garry T. Williams wrote: >> > On 1-9-14 15:43:50 Ales Kozumplik wrote: >> >> New DNF release is out. See the blog [1], the release notes [2] and >> >> the F20 update [3]. Rawhide build

Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-12 Thread Garry T. Williams
On 1-12-14 18:18:00 M A Young wrote: > On Sun, 12 Jan 2014, Garry T. Williams wrote: > > On 1-9-14 15:43:50 Ales Kozumplik wrote: > >> New DNF release is out. See the blog [1], the release notes [2] and > >> the F20 update [3]. Rawhide build went smooth this time too! > > > > I see this using 0.4.1

Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-12 Thread M A Young
On Sun, 12 Jan 2014, Garry T. Williams wrote: On 1-9-14 15:43:50 Ales Kozumplik wrote: New DNF release is out. See the blog [1], the release notes [2] and the F20 update [3]. Rawhide build went smooth this time too! I see this using 0.4.11. What am I doing wrong? garry@vfr$ sudo dnf --enabl

Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-12 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 12.01.2014 18:43, schrieb Garry T. Williams: > On 1-12-14 11:39:35 Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Garry T. Williams wrote: >>> On 1-9-14 15:43:50 Ales Kozumplik wrote: New DNF release is out. See the blog [1], the release notes [2] and the F20 update [3].

Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-12 Thread Garry T. Williams
On 1-12-14 11:39:35 Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Garry T. Williams wrote: > > On 1-9-14 15:43:50 Ales Kozumplik wrote: > > > New DNF release is out. See the blog [1], the release notes [2] and > > > the F20 update [3]. Rawhide build went smooth this time too! > > > > I

Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-12 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Garry T. Williams wrote: > On 1-9-14 15:43:50 Ales Kozumplik wrote: > > New DNF release is out. See the blog [1], the release notes [2] and > > the F20 update [3]. Rawhide build went smooth this time too! > > I see this using 0.4.11. What am I doing wrong?

Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-12 Thread Garry T. Williams
On 1-9-14 15:43:50 Ales Kozumplik wrote: > New DNF release is out. See the blog [1], the release notes [2] and > the F20 update [3]. Rawhide build went smooth this time too! I see this using 0.4.11. What am I doing wrong? garry@vfr$ sudo dnf --enablerepo=updates-testing update kernel\* [sudo] pa

dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-09 Thread Ales Kozumplik
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