Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread Mike Sensney
On Monday 29 December 2003 05:37 pm, Dick Morrell wrote: > Quoting Mike Sensney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Sigh. If you really want to think so then so be it. This is a developer's > > list. > > It is for people who actually write code to discuss problems they are > > having and > > to discuss what t

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread Dick Morrell
Quoting Mike Sensney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Sigh. If you really want to think so then so be it. This is a developer's > list. > It is for people who actually write code to discuss problems they are > having and > to discuss what they are considering. Others who are not developers should > stay

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread Mike Sensney
At 03:42 PM 12/29/2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 29 December 2003 05:32 pm, Mike Sensney wrote: > As such I thought that thread should end. > Exactly what I was referring to. Thank you for making my point. It *IS* who(m) is talking. Sigh. If you really want to think so then so be it. T

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread Richard Morrell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 29 December 2003 07:05 pm, you wrote: IF you are looking for another product that works well and is VERY similar to the above products you could look into clark-connect. It is rock solid AND comforms to GPL completely. This sounds like you still do not

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread w9ya
Finch > > Jaap (PE1RHB) > > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Verzonden: dinsdag 30 december 2003 0:57 > Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Onderwerp: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed? > > On Monday 29 December 2003 06:29 pm,

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread w9ya
On Monday 29 December 2003 07:05 pm, you wrote: > > IF you are looking for another product that works well and is VERY > > similar to the above products you could look into clark-connect. It is > > rock solid AND comforms to GPL completely. > > This sounds like you still do not agree / believe / fe

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread Richard Morrell
Hey Ricard; Thanxs for the very polite reply. Well I was referring to 2.1 which has been out for almost a month now. It is a good product and seems very solid to me. YMMV of course. I agree that 2.0 was less than stellar, but the "clark" staff also was quick to point out that it was an interi

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread w9ya
On Monday 29 December 2003 07:02 pm, Richard Morrell wrote: > >IF you are looking for another product that works well and is VERY similar > > to the above products you could look into clark-connect. It is rock solid > > AND comforms to GPL completely. > > Bob, I like what Clark Connect and their CE

RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread Jaap van Hemert
he surface, but if you probe it a bit, it should tell you what you need to know. Very best regards; Bob Finch > > Thanks for the answer(s) > Jaap > > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: Mike Sensney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Verzonden: maandag 29 december 2003

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread Hsing-Foo Wang
IF you are looking for another product that works well and is VERY similar to the above products you could look into clark-connect. It is rock solid AND comforms to GPL completely. This sounds like you still do not agree / believe / feel that Mitel unsupported developers release is GPL compliant

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread Richard Morrell
IF you are looking for another product that works well and is VERY similar to the above products you could look into clark-connect. It is rock solid AND comforms to GPL completely. Bob, I like what Clark Connect and their CEO stand for, he's a great guy who I respect a lot, however the pro

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread Rasjid Wilcox
On Tuesday 30 December 2003 02:35, Brian Luerssen wrote: > Unless they have modified gpl sourcecode, at which point they are obligated > (i think..) to release their changes/improvements back to the world. To the best of my knowledge (IANAL), if the source is distributed with the product at the t

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread w9ya
, but if you probe it a bit, it should tell you what you need to know. Very best regards; Bob Finch > > Thanks for the answer(s) > Jaap > > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: Mike Sensney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Verzonden: maandag 29 december 2003 23:33 >

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread w9ya
On Monday 29 December 2003 05:32 pm, Mike Sensney wrote: > At 11:48 AM 12/29/2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Sorry, my mistake. I was going to make a comment, but coffee arrived, > > > > and > > > > > I hit the wrong button. > > > >Just a quick comment to point out I was rather roundly trounce

RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread Jaap van Hemert
o so. But I could be wrong. Thanks for the answer(s) Jaap -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Mike Sensney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: maandag 29 december 2003 23:33 Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Onderwerp: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed? At 11:48 AM 12/29/2003, [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread Mike Sensney
At 11:48 AM 12/29/2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Sorry, my mistake. I was going to make a comment, but coffee arrived, and > I hit the wrong button. Just a quick comment to point out I was rather roundly trounced and then asked to not discuss this anymore on this dev-list the very last time su

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread Richard Morrell
Just a quick comment to point out I was rather roundly trounced and then asked to not discuss this anymore on this dev-list the very last time such a topic came up. I guess it is "who" makes a comment more than "what is being said" that matters here. Sigh. Bob Finch Freedom of speech

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread w9ya
On Monday 29 December 2003 12:50 pm, Charlie Brady wrote: > On Mon, 29 Dec 2003, John Cusick wrote: > > Were you about to make a comment, or was this a subtle comment on the > > excessive top-posting and lack of cleaning up previous messages? > > > > :-) > > Sorry, my mistake. I was going to make a

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread Richard Morrell
Charlie Brady wrote: On Mon, 29 Dec 2003, Richard Morrell wrote: I am guilty of this - wholesale. That's an interesting public admission. Thats why I made it, its not an admission - SW doesn't breach the GPL, what it does do is not clearly make available modifications. What it should

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread Charlie Brady
On Mon, 29 Dec 2003, Richard Morrell wrote: > I am guilty of this - wholesale. That's an interesting public admission. > SW Corporate products use GPL components and don't breach the GPL but > its a fine line. It really is. SmoothWall corporate products take GPL > code and make it proprietary.

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread Richard Morrell
> As to the distribution in question, one would need to examine the software > in more detail to verify compliance with the GPL. > > As you can see here: > > http://youresale.com/products/yes_license_agreement.php > > they 1) inform their customers that the GPL applies to some included > softw

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread Charlie Brady
On Mon, 29 Dec 2003, John Cusick wrote: > Were you about to make a comment, or was this a subtle comment on the > excessive top-posting and lack of cleaning up previous messages? > > :-) Sorry, my mistake. I was going to make a comment, but coffee arrived, and I hit the wrong button. Back to

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread John Cusick
On Mon, 2003-12-29 at 10:04, Jaap van Hemert wrote: > Hi, > > "Your E Sale" (http://youresale.com/) sels/ships four types of YES servers > based on e-smith distro without any reference. Wow... I thought Mitel's Partnership program was expensive for a "MaPs" (to use the ESALE term for Mom and Pop

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread John Cusick
On Mon, 2003-12-29 at 10:42, Charlie Brady wrote: > On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > If it is gpl stuff only, in a word: yes. > > > > > > On Monday 29 December 2003 10:04 am, Jaap van Hemert wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > "Your E Sale" (http://youresale.com/) sels/ships four typ

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread Charlie Brady
On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > If it is gpl stuff only, in a word: yes. > > > On Monday 29 December 2003 10:04 am, Jaap van Hemert wrote: > > Hi, > > > > "Your E Sale" (http://youresale.com/) sels/ships four types of YES servers > > based on e-smith distro without any reference

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread Brian Luerssen
Unless they have modified gpl sourcecode, at which point they are obligated (i think..) to release their changes/improvements back to the world. Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If it is gpl stuff only, in a word: yes. On Monday 29 December 2003 10:04 am, Jaap van Hemert wrote: Hi, "Your E Sal

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread w9ya
If it is gpl stuff only, in a word: yes. On Monday 29 December 2003 10:04 am, Jaap van Hemert wrote: > Hi, > > "Your E Sale" (http://youresale.com/) sels/ships four types of YES servers > based on e-smith distro without any reference. > > Is that alowed to put your own brand to it? > Jaap > > >

[e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread Jaap van Hemert
Hi, "Your E Sale" (http://youresale.com/) sels/ships four types of YES servers based on e-smith distro without any reference. Is that alowed to put your own brand to it? Jaap -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for