[freenet-dev] Sun Java version "1.4.1_01" and Linux/Sun OS

2002-11-09 Thread Mark W. Zaiser
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[freenet-dev] Dubious network performance; insertion tools

2002-11-09 Thread Matthew Toseland
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[freenet-dev] The first few hops problem

2002-11-09 Thread Edgar Friendly
"Scott Young" writes: > HTL has 2 main problems: > First hop - Incoming HTL values can be used to determine if a node is likely > to be the originator of a request > HTL-1 - Malicious node may find out if a node contains specific data. > good description of the problem. > One suggested solution

[freenet-dev] Extension to allow Freenet to get content from other protocols.

2002-11-09 Thread Matthew Toseland
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[freenet-dev] [BUG] outbound stats in 534

2002-11-09 Thread Greg Wooledge
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Re: [freenet-dev] The first few hops problem

2002-11-09 Thread Edgar Friendly
"Scott Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > HTL has 2 main problems: > First hop - Incoming HTL values can be used to determine if a node is likely > to be the originator of a request > HTL-1 - Malicious node may find out if a node contains specific data. > good description of the problem. > One

[freenet-dev] The first few hops problem

2002-11-09 Thread Scott Young
HTL has 2 main problems: First hop - Incoming HTL values can be used to determine if a node is likely to be the originator of a request HTL-1 - Malicious node may find out if a node contains specific data. One suggested solution to both of theese is to abandon HTL for a probabalistic forwarding ap

[freenet-dev] misc. audio streaming. rnf's still for anyone else? anyone out there code ui?

2002-11-09 Thread fish
I'm still getting quite a lot of RNF's at htl=15. Is this still expected behaviour, or is it just the node I'm trying to insert from? Just curious I've made some changes to my freenet audio streamer that make the insertion much more robust (specifically, changing the way the threading works

[freenet-dev] [BUG] outbound stats in 534

2002-11-09 Thread Ed Tomlinson
Hi, As report previously the outbound stats show that connections to named sites are always failing. No mater how you look at it its a bug. I see the following 1. Its a bug in collecting the stats 2. Connections to named sites is really failing 3. Connections to named sites works but we record

[freenet-dev] Sun Java version "1.4.1_01" and Linux/Sun OS

2002-11-09 Thread Mark W. Zaiser
I've stopped trying to get the current (read "unstable") cvs of freenet to build using kaffe on linux due to sheer lack of time. I was kinda dumbfounded when the current freenet cvs would not buid *and* run on the latest Sun java release. I posted my sketchy logfiles and java vm output here,

Re: [freenet-dev] [BUG] outbound stats in 534

2002-11-09 Thread Greg Wooledge
Ed Tomlinson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > 1. Its a bug in collecting the stats > 2. Connections to named sites is really failing > 3. Connections to named sites works but we record and error maybe >decrementing the HTL... I can't believe that #2 is actually true, because non-working node refe

Re: [freenet-dev] The first few hops problem

2002-11-09 Thread Scott Young
HTL has 2 main problems: First hop - Incoming HTL values can be used to determine if a node is likely to be the originator of a request HTL-1 - Malicious node may find out if a node contains specific data. One suggested solution to both of theese is to abandon HTL for a probabalistic forwarding ap

[freenet-dev] [BUG] outbound stats in 534

2002-11-09 Thread Ed Tomlinson
Hi, As report previously the outbound stats show that connections to named sites are always failing. No mater how you look at it its a bug. I see the following 1. Its a bug in collecting the stats 2. Connections to named sites is really failing 3. Connections to named sites works but we record

Re: [freenet-dev] misc. audio streaming. rnf's still for anyone else? anyone out there code ui?

2002-11-09 Thread Ian Clarke
This is really unfortunate that there are all of these problems - they are really Python's fault I guess - but it is difficult to imaging fishstream getting anywhere when even a Linux geek has this kind of trouble getting it working. Ian. On Sun, Nov 10, 2002 at 09:17:54AM +1100, fish wrote: >

[freenet-dev] The first few hops problem

2002-11-09 Thread Matthew Toseland
one can "guarantee" a minimum > number of visited nodes. > > -- > Robbe -- Matthew Toseland toad at amphibian.dyndns.org amphibian at users.sourceforge.net Freenet/Coldstore open source hacker. Employed full time by Freenet Project Inc. from 11/9/02 to 11/11/02. htt

[freenet-dev] misc. audio streaming. rnf's still for anyone else? anyone out there code ui?

2002-11-09 Thread Ian Clarke
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Re: [freenet-dev] Dubious network performance; insertion tools

2002-11-09 Thread Oskar Sandberg
Please don't advocate flooding the network based on anecdotes like this. If people respond by flooding, then things will get worse, and we will never know if they could have gotten better. Can people please show some restraint in regard to drastic action to make things work better. The network

[freenet-dev] Wishlist item

2002-11-09 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
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Re: [freenet-dev] Dubious network performance; insertion tools

2002-11-09 Thread fish
It should be reasonably easy for me to add this functionality. The code is in kinda a mess right now, since I'm integrating it with HTML UI, but I'll get to it in the next few days, most likely. You will actully find that often, if you insert a file at HTL=25 on the current node, it can be DNF a

[freenet-dev] Dubious network performance; insertion tools

2002-11-09 Thread Matthew Toseland
Recently I inserted a file at HTL 20 into one of my nodes, and had it DNF on the other at HTL 25. For two different files. This worked in the past, with lower HTLs. Now, the interesting part is that I have three nodes, and it appears that hammering all the nodes other than the one I inserted the fi

Re: [freenet-dev] Extension to allow Freenet to get content fromother protocols.

2002-11-09 Thread fish
On Sat, 9 Nov 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Lastly, it's nice to read some moderately positive reaction. > Now if only you had commit privleges... :) no, i think it's far, far, far better for freenet that I never, ever, ever am allowed near cvs commit access, considering my scrappy code :-p J

Re: [freenet-dev] Extension to allow Freenet to get content from other protocols.

2002-11-09 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 02:51:36PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > On Fri, 08 Nov 2002 16:21:14 -0800 Matthew Toseland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >wrote: > > --- snip --- > > >Hmmm. I'm inclined to think that we should insert the metadata properly > >and have gatewayhint purely for fetching

Re: [freenet-dev] Extension to allow Freenet to get content from other protocols.

2002-11-09 Thread thirty
On Fri, 08 Nov 2002 16:21:14 -0800 Matthew Toseland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- snip --- >Hmmm. I'm inclined to think that we should insert the metadata properly >and have gatewayhint purely for fetching the CHK... >> The metadata (redirects) are actually inserted properly. Thing is, you

[freenet-dev] Extension to allow Freenet to get content from other protocols.

2002-11-09 Thread thi...@hushmail.com
On Fri, 08 Nov 2002 16:21:14 -0800 Matthew Toseland wrote: --- snip --- >Hmmm. I'm inclined to think that we should insert the metadata properly >and have gatewayhint purely for fetching the CHK... >> The metadata (redirects) are actually inserted properly. Thing is, you can't just have th

Re: [freenet-dev] Extension to allow Freenet to get content from other protocols.

2002-11-09 Thread thirty
I believe that the risk of mapping freenet by requesting keys that map to your own webserver are mitigated by two important factors. 1) There is a relationship between freenet keys and the gateway hint, specifically, one should hash to the other. This is easy to check. Checking for this this

[freenet-dev] Extension to allow Freenet to get content from other protocols.

2002-11-09 Thread thi...@hushmail.com
I believe that the risk of mapping freenet by requesting keys that map to your own webserver are mitigated by two important factors. 1) There is a relationship between freenet keys and the gateway hint, specifically, one should hash to the other. This is easy to check. Checking for this this

Re: [freenet-dev] Extension to allow Freenet to get content from other protocols.

2002-11-09 Thread thirty
(For those who don't want to re-read what's below, fish is worried that the gateway isn't anonymous because the initial request for a proxied resource will show up in web-logs, hence isn't anonymous) Firstly, the weblogs do not reveal who browsed the url. What makes this gateway extention anonym

Re: [freenet-dev] misc. audio streaming. rnf's still for anyoneelse? anyone out there code ui?

2002-11-09 Thread fish
On Sat, 9 Nov 2002, Ian Clarke wrote: > sh streamServer.py 1 > streamServer.py: line 3: from: command not found > streamServer.py: line 8: syntax error near unexpected token `(' > streamServer.py: line 8: `class > fishStreamServer(BaseHTTPServer.BaseHTTPRequestHandler):' redhat vs. debian issue

[freenet-dev] Extension to allow Freenet to get content from other protocols.

2002-11-09 Thread thi...@hushmail.com
(For those who don't want to re-read what's below, fish is worried that the gateway isn't anonymous because the initial request for a proxied resource will show up in web-logs, hence isn't anonymous) Firstly, the weblogs do not reveal who browsed the url. What makes this gateway extention anonym

[freenet-dev] The first few hops problem

2002-11-09 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
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[freenet-dev] FProxy breaks HTTP/1.1 specs

2002-11-09 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
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[freenet-dev] Extension to allow Freenet to get content from other protocols.

2002-11-09 Thread fish
oh yeah, one more thing, the routing at higher HTL's will actully get more reliable after a few days of use of the proxy, since 90% of the CHK's won't change, only the redirects. - fish On Fri, 8 Nov 2002 thirty at hushmail.com wrote: > > Hi there, > > I've written a a framework for a

[freenet-dev] Extension to allow Freenet to get content from other protocols.

2002-11-09 Thread fish
Hi! This is actully something that I've thought of quite a few times, so it's great to see it implented :) (I also have a similar idea about gnutella queries, but we'll go there another day - i've already got two freenet related projects right now, that's enough :-p) I do, however, have some iss

Re: [freenet-dev] The first few hops problem

2002-11-09 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 11:31:35AM +0100, Robert Bihlmeyer wrote: > David Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 11:09:06PM +, Matthew Toseland wrote: > > > Possible solution to the problem that you can see that a request has > > > been initiated on a given node: > > >

Re: [freenet-dev] Wishlist item

2002-11-09 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Wayne Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > That explains why my traffic shaping was only marginally successful. > I nicely limited incoming traffic, but only some of the outgoing > traffic was being capped. If this is on Linux 2.4+, iptables allow you to match packages by uid of the sending proces

Re: [freenet-dev] misc. audio streaming. rnf's still for anyone else? anyone out there code ui?

2002-11-09 Thread Ian Clarke
sh streamServer.py 1 streamServer.py: line 3: from: command not found streamServer.py: line 8: syntax error near unexpected token `(' streamServer.py: line 8: `class fishStreamServer(BaseHTTPServer.BaseHTTPRequestHandler):' On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 09:15:09PM +1100, fish wrote: > > I'm still gett

[freenet-dev] misc. audio streaming. rnf's still for anyone else? anyone out there code ui?

2002-11-09 Thread Ian Clarke
sh streamServer.py 1 streamServer.py: line 3: from: command not found streamServer.py: line 8: syntax error near unexpected token `(' streamServer.py: line 8: `class fishStreamServer(BaseHTTPServer.BaseHTTPRequestHandler):' On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 09:15:09PM +1100, fish wrote: > > I'm still gett

Re: [freenet-dev] The first few hops problem

2002-11-09 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
David Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 11:09:06PM +, Matthew Toseland wrote: > > Possible solution to the problem that you can see that a request has > > been initiated on a given node: > > Requests can have either HTL, or HTL|P, where P is a number between 0 > > and

Re: [freenet-dev] FProxy breaks HTTP/1.1 specs

2002-11-09 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > ETag is just a string, so the base64-encoded key of the current file > would do nicely (for key responses) If fproxy can get at the CHKs of content it is showing that's a possibility. > > My current caching target are the web interface images (and static > > pages), a

[freenet-dev] misc. audio streaming. rnf's still for anyone else? anyone outthere code ui?

2002-11-09 Thread fish
I'm still getting quite a lot of RNF's at htl=15. Is this still expected behaviour, or is it just the node I'm trying to insert from? Just curious I've made some changes to my freenet audio streamer that make the insertion much more robust (specifically, changing the way the threading works

[freenet-dev] Extension to allow Freenet to get content from other protocols.

2002-11-09 Thread Oskar Sandberg
This idea was first brought up about three years ago or so. It is not a viable because it allows for easy mapping of freenet - just request data for different (nonexistant) keys with a "gatewayhint" pointing at an http server you control, and freenet spills the beans on where it routes for those k

[freenet-dev] Extension to allow Freenet to get content from other protocols.

2002-11-09 Thread Matthew Toseland
om > your freenet node, the same will not be true of other nodes. > > > > > Get your free encrypted email at https://www.hushmail.com > > ___ > devl mailing list > devl at freenetproject.org > http://hawk.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl > -- Matthew Toseland toad at amphibian.dyndns.org amphibian at users.sourceforge.net Freenet/Coldstore open source hacker. Employed full time by Freenet Project Inc. from 11/9/02 to 11/11/02. http://freenetproject.org/ -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20021109/d5efc342/attachment.pgp>

[freenet-dev] Extension to allow Freenet to get content from other protocols.

2002-11-09 Thread Matthew Toseland
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