Re: [freenet-dev] Open Question

2003-11-04 Thread Tom Kaitchuck
On Tuesday 04 November 2003 07:24 pm, Andrew Rodland wrote: > I run a transient (99% of the time) node. Should I delete my routing table > when I move from home (modem) to friend's (fast cable)? Since the > downstream is about 20 times faster, I can see potential for routing to get > really screwed

[freenet-dev] Re: Open Question

2003-11-04 Thread Martin Stone Davis
Andrew Rodland wrote: I run a transient (99% of the time) node. Should I delete my routing table when I move from home (modem) to friend's (fast cable)? Since the downstream is about 20 times faster, I can see potential for routing to get really screwed when I change to and from -- but how long wou

[freenet-dev] Open Question

2003-11-04 Thread Andrew Rodland
I run a transient (99% of the time) node. Should I delete my routing table when I move from home (modem) to friend's (fast cable)? Since the downstream is about 20 times faster, I can see potential for routing to get really screwed when I change to and from -- but how long would it probably last?

[freenet-dev] Re: freenet/src/freenet/node Main.java,1.295,1.296

2003-11-04 Thread Martin Stone Davis
From my reading of the source, it's actual minus predicted, not the other way around. From NGRouting.java: >long diffSearchTime = searchTime - lastEstimate.searchSuccessTime; -Martin Matthew Toseland wrote: Update of /cvsroot/freenet/freenet/src/freenet/node In directory sc8-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-se

[freenet-dev] Some 6313 bugs under Windows

2003-11-04 Thread Richard Thomas Harrison
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 05-Nov-2003 00:51:59 (freenet.node.Main$InsertARK, YThread-49, NORMAL): Collision Inserting ARK 05-Nov-2003 00:51:59 (freenet.node.Main$InsertARK, YThread-49, NORMAL): Collision inserting ARK (1)! Collisions inserting ARK? Will it just ignore

[freenet-dev] Great fix for Windows users in 6313.

2003-11-04 Thread Martin Stone Davis
Iakin fixed an NGR-related bug in 6313 which I believe affects lots of Windows users (it certainly affected me): The global estimates were getting wiped out every time the node was restarted. That could be important, so if the devs think it is safe to do so, I would urge this version (or just

[freenet-dev] (To Iakin) Clarification of tTransferRate, etc. graphs

2003-11-04 Thread Martin Stone Davis
Could someone (probably Iakin) clarify what is meant by the tTransferRate graphs under /servlet/nodestatus/nodestatus.html ? The graph should indicate whether it's bytes per second or seconds per byte. Also, indicate (maybe with an L-shaped corner) where the 0,0 point is. The same could go fo

Re: [freenet-dev] Unstable 6312, stats, etc

2003-11-04 Thread Dave Hooper
Getting a bunch of junk data sent thru fproxy to the browser. Could it be related to these? It seems to highly correlated temporally anyhow 04-Nov-2003 23:59:30 (freenet.node.states.request.TransferReply, YThread-12): Upstream node connection died for freenet.node.states.request.TransferReply: k

[freenet-CVS] freenet/src/freenet/node Main.java,1.295,1.296

2003-11-04 Thread Matthew Toseland
Update of /cvsroot/freenet/freenet/src/freenet/node In directory sc8-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv25859/src/freenet/node Modified Files: Main.java Log Message: Improve descriptions. Index: Main.java === RCS file: /cvsroot/freenet/fr

[freenet-dev] Re: unstable.ref (was: Unstable 6312, stats, etc)

2003-11-04 Thread Richard Thomas Harrison
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] randomly hit the keyboard and managed to write on 05/11/2003 00:03: |>and prng.seed file. I have unstable.ref as the seed file. | | | is unstable.ref still in use/still updated/not already obsolete? Was using it with 6306 up until the

Re: [freenet-dev] Unstable 6312, stats, etc

2003-11-04 Thread Toad
Logging bug. Fixed in 6213, snapshots updating. On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 11:54:33PM +, Richard Thomas Harrison wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Erm, I get this after a normal startup... > > 04-Nov-2003 23:40:53 (freenet.node.rt.StandardNodeEstimator, YThread-2, > N

[freenet-CVS] freenet/src/freenet/node/rt StandardNodeEstimator.java, 1.24, 1.25

2003-11-04 Thread Matthew Toseland
Update of /cvsroot/freenet/freenet/src/freenet/node/rt In directory sc8-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv23362/src/freenet/node/rt Modified Files: StandardNodeEstimator.java Log Message: 6313: Fix the logging. Index: StandardNodeEstimator.java

[freenet-CVS] freenet/src/freenet Version.java,1.509,1.510

2003-11-04 Thread Matthew Toseland
Update of /cvsroot/freenet/freenet/src/freenet In directory sc8-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv23362/src/freenet Modified Files: Version.java Log Message: 6313: Fix the logging. Index: Version.java === RCS file: /cvsroot/freenet/freen

[freenet-dev] unstable.ref (was: Unstable 6312, stats, etc)

2003-11-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>and prng.seed file. I have unstable.ref as the seed file. is unstable.ref still in use/still updated/not already obsolete? ___ Devl mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl

Re: [freenet-dev] Unstable 6312, stats, etc

2003-11-04 Thread Richard Thomas Harrison
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Erm, I get this after a normal startup... 04-Nov-2003 23:40:53 (freenet.node.rt.StandardNodeEstimator, YThread-2, NORMAL): ~ Unreasonable estimate: 0 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: tcp /82.66.224.145:27052, sessions=1, presentations=1, ID=DSA(136f b541 d8a3 1c

Re: [freenet-dev] Debian version

2003-11-04 Thread Toad
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 03:11:56PM -0800, Richard A. Hecker wrote: > > This would be really cool. Of course for the geeks using debian, we > > would ideally need a package that depended on Kaffe 1.1.X where X is the > > version where they fix NIO. That could then go (back) into the mainline > > un

[freenet-dev] Debian version

2003-11-04 Thread Richard A. Hecker
> This would be really cool. Of course for the geeks using debian, we > would ideally need a package that depended on Kaffe 1.1.X where X is the > version where they fix NIO. That could then go (back) into the mainline > unstable debian repository, so all debian users can just do apt-get > install

Re: [freenet-dev] Unstable 6312, stats, etc

2003-11-04 Thread Toad
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 11:02:05PM -, Dave Hooper wrote: > Scratch that, getting numbers again now. Could have just been a quiet > period. I expect the Data Transferred also includes local Fproxy > connections explain why it continued to tick up when refereshing? No, it's only throttled data

Re: [freenet-dev] Unstable 6312, stats, etc

2003-11-04 Thread Dave Hooper
Scratch that, getting numbers again now. Could have just been a quiet period. I expect the Data Transferred also includes local Fproxy connections explain why it continued to tick up when refereshing? > "Connections Transferring" always showing 0/0 with 6312 - desptie the Total > Amount of Data

[freenet-CVS] freenet/src/freenet/node/rt NGRoutingTable.java, 1.27, 1.28

2003-11-04 Thread Niklas Bergh
Update of /cvsroot/freenet/freenet/src/freenet/node/rt In directory sc8-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv11455/src/freenet/node/rt Modified Files: NGRoutingTable.java Log Message: Make global estimator serialization rotate through serialization filenames and, on windows, make it work. Remember.. win

Re: [freenet-dev] Unstable 6312, stats, etc

2003-11-04 Thread Dave Hooper
"Connections Transferring" always showing 0/0 with 6312 - desptie the Total Amount of Data Transferred constantly ticking up. Could it simply be a coincidence that I refresh the page when no data is actually being transferred? This is just after a restart, after all, although I do have plenty in

[freenet-dev] Unstable 6312, stats, etc

2003-11-04 Thread Toad
The bug fixed in 6312 (the last few builds have been mainly on stats): We were reporting bytes per millisecond and calling it bytes per second on the node status pages! This is why we got the figures of a few bytes per second min and max... http://127.0.0.1:/servlet/nodestatus/diagnostics/succe

[freenet-CVS] freenet/src/freenet/node/rt StandardNodeEstimator.java, 1.23, 1.24 ResponseTimeEstimator.java, 1.35, 1.36

2003-11-04 Thread Matthew Toseland
Update of /cvsroot/freenet/freenet/src/freenet/node/rt In directory sc8-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv994/src/freenet/node/rt Modified Files: StandardNodeEstimator.java ResponseTimeEstimator.java Log Message: 6312: Fix tTransferRate formatFromRaw() - show bytes per second NOT PER MILLISECOND. Also

[freenet-CVS] freenet/src/freenet Version.java,1.508,1.509

2003-11-04 Thread Matthew Toseland
Update of /cvsroot/freenet/freenet/src/freenet In directory sc8-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv994/src/freenet Modified Files: Version.java Log Message: 6312: Fix tTransferRate formatFromRaw() - show bytes per second NOT PER MILLISECOND. Also minor clarification in StandardNodeEstimator. Index: Ve

Re: [freenet-dev] Re: Re: Wi^H^H Redhat installer

2003-11-04 Thread Mika Hirvonen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have tinkered with Freenet rpms, but the problem is how to detect the various JREs (Kaffe, Sun, Blackdown, IBM etc) so that other package management tools (like apt-rpm) wouldn't unnecessarily install a JRE. Ideally we'll just look for >= jre-1.4.1 and if the user

[freenet-CVS] freenet/src/freenet/node/rt ResponseTimeEstimator.java, 1.34, 1.35

2003-11-04 Thread Niklas Bergh
Update of /cvsroot/freenet/freenet/src/freenet/node/rt In directory sc8-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv30464/src/freenet/node/rt Modified Files: ResponseTimeEstimator.java Log Message: Fixed the missing red crosses and non-clipped estimator graphs. Index: ResponseTimeEstimator.java ===

[freenet-CVS] freenet/src/freenet/node Main.java,1.294,1.295

2003-11-04 Thread Matthew Toseland
Update of /cvsroot/freenet/freenet/src/freenet/node In directory sc8-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv21279/src/freenet/node Modified Files: Main.java Log Message: 6310: D'oh. Index: Main.java === RCS file: /cvsroot/freenet/freenet/src/

[freenet-CVS] freenet/src/freenet Version.java,1.507,1.508

2003-11-04 Thread Matthew Toseland
Update of /cvsroot/freenet/freenet/src/freenet In directory sc8-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv21279/src/freenet Modified Files: Version.java Log Message: 6310: D'oh. Index: Version.java === RCS file: /cvsroot/freenet/freenet/src/free

[freenet-dev] Re: Re: Wi^H^H Redhat installer

2003-11-04 Thread zbalevsk
>I have tinkered with Freenet rpms, but the problem is how to detect the >various JREs (Kaffe, Sun, Blackdown, IBM etc) so that other package >management tools (like apt-rpm) wouldn't unnecessarily install a JRE. Ideally we'll just look for >= jre-1.4.1 and if the user has installed the jre thr

Re: [freenet-dev] Wi^H^H Redhat installer

2003-11-04 Thread Mika Hirvonen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone considered/volounteered to make an rpm of fred? It will actually work on any rpm-based distro (suse, mandrake) because sun installs the jre from rpm in a distro-independent manner. I have tinkered with Freenet rpms, but the problem is how to detect the vari

Re: [freenet-dev] Re: Measuring node/network health (was Re: Path to 0.6)

2003-11-04 Thread Toad
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 08:01:07PM +, Toad wrote: > On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 06:53:21PM +, Ian Clarke wrote: > > Toad wrote: > > >How exactly do you reconcile this with the fact that the NGRouting > > >estimate subtracts pLegitDNF from pDNF when calculating it's estimate? > > >Surely we woul

[freenet-CVS] freenet/src/freenet/node/rt NGRouting.java, 1.20, 1.21 NGRoutingTable.java, 1.26, 1.27 Estimate.java, 1.3, 1.4 StandardNodeEstimator.java, 1.22, 1.23 NodeEstimator.java, 1.10, 1.11

2003-11-04 Thread Matthew Toseland
Update of /cvsroot/freenet/freenet/src/freenet/node/rt In directory sc8-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv12788/src/freenet/node/rt Modified Files: NGRouting.java NGRoutingTable.java Estimate.java StandardNodeEstimator.java NodeEstimator.java Log Message: 6210: Add new diagnostics diffSuccess

[freenet-CVS] freenet/src/freenet/node Main.java,1.293,1.294

2003-11-04 Thread Matthew Toseland
Update of /cvsroot/freenet/freenet/src/freenet/node In directory sc8-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv12788/src/freenet/node Modified Files: Main.java Log Message: 6210: Add new diagnostics diffSuccessSearchTime, absDiffSuccessSearchTime, diffTransferRate, absDiffTransferRate Index: Main.java

[freenet-CVS] freenet/src/freenet Version.java,1.506,1.507

2003-11-04 Thread Matthew Toseland
Update of /cvsroot/freenet/freenet/src/freenet In directory sc8-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv12788/src/freenet Modified Files: Version.java Log Message: 6210: Add new diagnostics diffSuccessSearchTime, absDiffSuccessSearchTime, diffTransferRate, absDiffTransferRate Index: Version.java

Re: [freenet-dev] Interesting statistics and anecdotes

2003-11-04 Thread Roger Hayter
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Toad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 12:14:33PM +, Roger Hayter wrote: Another comment: I have been playing with David 's latency test. Assume it works as described, and inserts random keys from one node and immediately retrieves them from a

Re: [freenet-dev] Re: Measuring node/network health (was Re: Path to 0.6)

2003-11-04 Thread Toad
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 06:53:21PM +, Ian Clarke wrote: > Toad wrote: > >How exactly do you reconcile this with the fact that the NGRouting > >estimate subtracts pLegitDNF from pDNF when calculating it's estimate? > >Surely we would have to calculate it twice, once without the legit DNFs > >cor

Re: [freenet-dev] Windows Installers [yet again]

2003-11-04 Thread Dave Hooper
This has now been created. It's not (even trivially) password protect. As a test it currently only contains the Sun Java 'Online' installer, which when executed gets the JRE components from Sun's servers. This can be easily changed by uploading a different executable and symlinking as appropriat

[freenet-dev] Unstable 6309

2003-11-04 Thread Toad
Everyone running unstable please upgrade to 6309. Lots of bug fixes, including the recently introduced problems (specific to unstable) with routing, two NPEs, in PeerPacketMessage and BaseLocalNIOInterface, and a new stat searchFailedCount, which counts the number of QueryRejected's or timeouts bef

[freenet-CVS] freenet/src/freenet/node Main.java,1.292,1.293

2003-11-04 Thread Matthew Toseland
Update of /cvsroot/freenet/freenet/src/freenet/node In directory sc8-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv5171/src/freenet/node Modified Files: Main.java Log Message: 6309: Add new diagnostic searchFailedCount, to measure impact of QRing on the node, fix an NPE in interfaces. Index: Main.java =

[freenet-CVS] freenet/src/freenet Version.java,1.505,1.506

2003-11-04 Thread Matthew Toseland
Update of /cvsroot/freenet/freenet/src/freenet In directory sc8-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv5171/src/freenet Modified Files: Version.java Log Message: 6309: Add new diagnostic searchFailedCount, to measure impact of QRing on the node, fix an NPE in interfaces. Index: Version.java =

[freenet-CVS] freenet/src/freenet/interfaces BaseLocalNIOInterface.java, 1.9, 1.10

2003-11-04 Thread Matthew Toseland
Update of /cvsroot/freenet/freenet/src/freenet/interfaces In directory sc8-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv5171/src/freenet/interfaces Modified Files: BaseLocalNIOInterface.java Log Message: 6309: Add new diagnostic searchFailedCount, to measure impact of QRing on the node, fix an NPE in interfaces

[freenet-CVS] freenet/src/freenet/node/rt NGRouting.java,1.19,1.20

2003-11-04 Thread Matthew Toseland
Update of /cvsroot/freenet/freenet/src/freenet/node/rt In directory sc8-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv5171/src/freenet/node/rt Modified Files: NGRouting.java Log Message: 6309: Add new diagnostic searchFailedCount, to measure impact of QRing on the node, fix an NPE in interfaces. Index: NGRoutin

Re: [freenet-dev] Wi^H^H Redhat installer

2003-11-04 Thread Toad
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 01:11:07PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Has anyone considered/volounteered to make an rpm of fred? It will actually > work on any rpm-based distro (suse, mandrake) because sun installs the jre from > rpm in a distro-independent manner. > > It should be easily doabl

Re: [freenet-dev] Interesting statistics and anecdotes

2003-11-04 Thread Daves Lists
- Original Message - From: "Toad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of development issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [freenet-dev] Interesting statistics and anecdotes On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 02:30:54AM -0500, Daves Lists wrote: >> Here'

Re: [freenet-dev] packet-level compression

2003-11-04 Thread Edgar Friendly
Toad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 11:48:13AM -0600, Edgar Friendly wrote: > > Every routed request already has a UniqueID; why would we make up a > > new ID system just for QRs? Currently, QRs are between 80 and 100 > > bytes, I plan on having them down to 12 bytes. Drop

[freenet-CVS] freenet/src/freenet/node/states/data SendData.java, 1.33, 1.34

2003-11-04 Thread Matthew Toseland
Update of /cvsroot/freenet/freenet/src/freenet/node/states/data In directory sc8-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv28750/src/freenet/node/states/data Modified Files: SendData.java Log Message: 6308: Fix bug in SendData w.r.t. padding. If this works, it should reduce connection churn amongst other thi

[freenet-CVS] freenet/src/freenet Version.java,1.504,1.505

2003-11-04 Thread Matthew Toseland
Update of /cvsroot/freenet/freenet/src/freenet In directory sc8-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv28750/src/freenet Modified Files: Version.java Log Message: 6308: Fix bug in SendData w.r.t. padding. If this works, it should reduce connection churn amongst other things. Also reindent. Index: Version

Re: [freenet-dev] Re: I/O error replying

2003-11-04 Thread Toad
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 01:04:26PM -0600, Tom Kaitchuck wrote: > On Tuesday 04 November 2003 11:55 am, Toad wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 10:43:36AM -0600, Tom Kaitchuck wrote: > > > On Monday 03 November 2003 11:45 pm, Martin Stone Davis wrote: > > > > I have no idea if is will actually help,

Re: [freenet-dev] Re: I/O error replying

2003-11-04 Thread Tom Kaitchuck
On Tuesday 04 November 2003 11:55 am, Toad wrote: > On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 10:43:36AM -0600, Tom Kaitchuck wrote: > > On Monday 03 November 2003 11:45 pm, Martin Stone Davis wrote: > > > I have no idea if is will actually help, but: try threadFactory=Y > > > instead of Q; and also try increasing m

Re: [freenet-dev] Re: Measuring node/network health (was Re: Path to 0.6)

2003-11-04 Thread Ian Clarke
Toad wrote: How exactly do you reconcile this with the fact that the NGRouting estimate subtracts pLegitDNF from pDNF when calculating it's estimate? Surely we would have to calculate it twice, once without the legit DNFs correction, for your stat to be meaningful? Good question. The answer is to

Re: [freenet-dev] Interesting statistics and anecdotes

2003-11-04 Thread Toad
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 06:36:58PM +, Ian Clarke wrote: > Toad wrote: > >That stat is absolutely useless and impossible to implement properly. I > >explained why on another thread, please reply to it. > > Which thread? Measuring node performance or something like that. Sub-thread from Path to

Re: [freenet-dev] Interesting statistics and anecdotes

2003-11-04 Thread Ian Clarke
Toad wrote: That stat is absolutely useless and impossible to implement properly. I explained why on another thread, please reply to it. Which thread? Ian. ___ Devl mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/d

[freenet-CVS] freenet/src/freenet/node/rt DecayingRunningAverage.java, 1.8, 1.9

2003-11-04 Thread Matthew Toseland
Update of /cvsroot/freenet/freenet/src/freenet/node/rt In directory sc8-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv22083/src/freenet/node/rt Modified Files: DecayingRunningAverage.java Log Message: 6507: Sanity checking on serialized in DecayingRunningAverage's Index: DecayingRunningAverage.java =

[freenet-CVS] freenet/src/freenet Version.java,1.503,1.504

2003-11-04 Thread Matthew Toseland
Update of /cvsroot/freenet/freenet/src/freenet In directory sc8-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv22083/src/freenet Modified Files: Version.java Log Message: 6507: Sanity checking on serialized in DecayingRunningAverage's Index: Version.java ===

Re: [freenet-dev] Will FCP InvertPrivateKey continue to be supported?

2003-11-04 Thread Nick Tarleton
What "magic bytes"? The only "magic bytes" I can think of that the client shouldn't know about are the PAgM. If InvertPrivateKey doesn't return this, then some people should be whipped, and it should be changed or a better command introduced and the original deprecated. Then it would be: "SSK@"

Re: [freenet-dev] packet-level compression

2003-11-04 Thread Edgar Friendly
Toad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 11:41:59AM -0600, Edgar Friendly wrote: > > Toad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > Make sure it's reasonably easy to extend it... there will only be a few > > > possible fields on a given message, but there may be new messages etc. >

Re: [freenet-dev] Usability improvement ideas

2003-11-04 Thread Tom Kaitchuck
On Tuesday 04 November 2003 09:06 am, Toad wrote: > Oooh, interesting. > > If the reason for QRing is too many active jobs, and the reason for that > is connections... then rather than NIO'ing connections, the solution is > to implement multiplexing. > > But I need to know whether this is character

[freenet-dev] Wi^H^H Redhat installer

2003-11-04 Thread zbalevsk
Has anyone considered/volounteered to make an rpm of fred? It will actually work on any rpm-based distro (suse, mandrake) because sun installs the jre from rpm in a distro-independent manner. It should be easily doable from the current tar.gz, the rpm would just check whether the jre is insta

Re: [freenet-dev] flood-protection of boards (was: re: Path to 0.6)

2003-11-04 Thread Thomas Leske
Toad wrote: On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 06:10:58PM +0100, Thomas Leske wrote: You can build boards that can not be flooded with the existing key types. There is a board/list owner that decides who is able to post. Similar to earlier proposals new identities can be obtained for hash cash or think cash

Re: [freenet-dev] Re: I/O error replying

2003-11-04 Thread Toad
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 10:43:36AM -0600, Tom Kaitchuck wrote: > On Monday 03 November 2003 11:45 pm, Martin Stone Davis wrote: > > I have no idea if is will actually help, but: try threadFactory=Y > > instead of Q; and also try increasing maximumThreads to at least 300. > > Make sure to remove the

Re: [freenet-dev] flood-protection of boards (was: re: Path to 0.6)

2003-11-04 Thread Toad
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 06:10:58PM +0100, Thomas Leske wrote: > Tom Kaitchuck wrote: > >None the less people could flood boards now, it's just that the software > >stops requesting keys if they don't seem to be there or get tagged as spam > >or blocked by the user. We could just do the same thing

Re: [freenet-dev] packet-level compression

2003-11-04 Thread Toad
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 11:48:13AM -0600, Edgar Friendly wrote: > Ken Corson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Edgar Friendly wrote: > > > > Okay, this is only regarding Q's and QR's , but what if the sending > > node included a 2 or 4 byte QueryID value ? This would be a simple > > counter, but

Re: [freenet-dev] packet-level compression

2003-11-04 Thread Toad
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 11:41:59AM -0600, Edgar Friendly wrote: > Toad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Make sure it's reasonably easy to extend it... there will only be a few > > possible fields on a given message, but there may be new messages etc. > > So far we have less than 50 messages (I t

[freenet-CVS] freenet/src/freenet/node/rt StandardNodeEstimator.java, 1.21, 1.22

2003-11-04 Thread Niklas Bergh
Update of /cvsroot/freenet/freenet/src/freenet/node/rt In directory sc8-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv12778/src/freenet/node/rt Modified Files: StandardNodeEstimator.java Log Message: Saner limit. Index: StandardNodeEstimator.java ==

Re: [freenet-dev] packet-level compression

2003-11-04 Thread Edgar Friendly
Ken Corson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Edgar Friendly wrote: > > Okay, this is only regarding Q's and QR's , but what if the sending > node included a 2 or 4 byte QueryID value ? This would be a simple > counter, but the value would be unique between that pair of peers. > Then, when it came tim

Re: [freenet-dev] Usability improvement ideas

2003-11-04 Thread Toad
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 03:11:16PM +, Ian Clarke wrote: > Toad wrote: > >On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 09:10:08AM -0500, Daves Lists wrote: > >Oooh, interesting. > >If the reason for QRing is too many active jobs, and the reason for that > >is connections... then rather than NIO'ing connections, the

Re: [freenet-dev] packet-level compression

2003-11-04 Thread Edgar Friendly
Toad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Make sure it's reasonably easy to extend it... there will only be a few > possible fields on a given message, but there may be new messages etc. So far we have less than 50 messages (I think it's around 25 or so, but I'll estimate high to prove my point). I'm a

[freenet-CVS] freenet/src/freenet/node/rt RoutingPointStore.java, 1.9, 1.10 StandardNodeEstimator.java, 1.20, 1.21 NGRoutingTable.java, 1.25, 1.26

2003-11-04 Thread Niklas Bergh
Update of /cvsroot/freenet/freenet/src/freenet/node/rt In directory sc8-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv10856/src/freenet/node/rt Modified Files: RoutingPointStore.java StandardNodeEstimator.java NGRoutingTable.java Log Message: Better message inside the thrown IOException in case of limits

[freenet-CVS] freenet/src/freenet/node/rt RoutingPointStore.java, 1.8, 1.9

2003-11-04 Thread Niklas Bergh
Update of /cvsroot/freenet/freenet/src/freenet/node/rt In directory sc8-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv8319/src/freenet/node/rt Modified Files: RoutingPointStore.java Log Message: Throw instead of cap Index: RoutingPointStore.java ===

[freenet-dev] Re: Tit for tat

2003-11-04 Thread thong
Ian Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >Is it fair that when 3 nodes might have sent me a vast number of >requests, thus overloading my node, that a 4th node which has never >asked anything of my node before is refused? Probably not, but how can >this be addressed? Probabilistic queryrejecting

[freenet-dev] flood-protection of boards (was: re: Path to 0.6)

2003-11-04 Thread Thomas Leske
Tom Kaitchuck wrote: None the less people could flood boards now, it's just that the software stops requesting keys if they don't seem to be there or get tagged as spam or blocked by the user. We could just do the same thing. Then worst case scenario, we have what we have now. You can build boar

Re: [freenet-dev] Interesting statistics and anecdotes

2003-11-04 Thread Toad
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 09:59:12AM +, Ian Clarke wrote: > Toad wrote: > >This strongly suggests that routing is not doing terribly great. The > >suspicion is that there is some form of network fragmentation going > >on. Ian refuses to admit the possibility of network fragmentation, so I > >am w

[freenet-CVS] freenet/src/freenet/node/rt RoutingPointStore.java, 1.7, 1.8 StandardNodeEstimator.java, 1.19, 1.20 ResponseTimeEstimator.java, 1.33, 1.34 TimeEstimatorFactory.java, 1.2, 1.3 NGRoutingTable.java, 1.24, 1.25 HistoryKeepingRoutingPointStore.java, 1.3, 1.4

2003-11-04 Thread Niklas Bergh
Update of /cvsroot/freenet/freenet/src/freenet/node/rt In directory sc8-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv4808/src/freenet/node/rt Modified Files: RoutingPointStore.java StandardNodeEstimator.java ResponseTimeEstimator.java TimeEstimatorFactory.java NGRoutingTable.java HistoryKeepingR

Re: [freenet-dev] Interesting statistics and anecdotes

2003-11-04 Thread Toad
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 12:14:33PM +, Roger Hayter wrote: > Another comment: I have been playing with David 's latency > test. Assume it works as described, and inserts random keys from one > node and immediately retrieves them from another, the results are really > interesting. Time to r

Re: [freenet-dev] Interesting statistics and anecdotes

2003-11-04 Thread Toad
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 10:57:54AM +0100, Niklas Bergh wrote: > Maybe we should keep an pQR estimator in the routingtable?! We don't > have to use it for anything but it would be interesting to be able to > display graph. Well, pSearchFailed is presumably dominated by QRs... > > /N > > > -Or

Re: [freenet-dev] Will FCP InvertPrivateKey continue to be supported?

2003-11-04 Thread Mathew Ryden
Edgar Friendly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David McNab <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Please *don't* do that - it's an incredibly useful function. > > Without it, clients have to insert a dummy SSK at htl=0 to convert > > private keys into public ones. > > > Clients *shouldn't* be converting

Re: [freenet-dev] Will FCP InvertPrivateKey continue to be supported?

2003-11-04 Thread Edgar Friendly
David McNab <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Please *don't* do that - it's an incredibly useful function. > Without it, clients have to insert a dummy SSK at htl=0 to convert > private keys into public ones. > Clients *shouldn't* be converting private keys into public ones. The reason being that th

[freenet-CVS] freenet/src/freenet Version.java, 1.502, 1.503 Core.java, 1.51, 1.52 PeerHandler.java, 1.42, 1.43 ConnectionHandler.java, 1.204, 1.205 PeerPacketMessage.java, 1.19, 1.20 OpenConnectionManager.java, 1.161, 1.162

2003-11-04 Thread Matthew Toseland
Update of /cvsroot/freenet/freenet/src/freenet In directory sc8-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv1809/src/freenet Modified Files: Version.java Core.java PeerHandler.java ConnectionHandler.java PeerPacketMessage.java OpenConnectionManager.java Log Message: 6506: Fix the NPE by keeping a defau

[freenet-CVS] freenet/src/freenet/node Node.java, 1.239, 1.240 ConnectionOpener.java, 1.26, 1.27 Main.java, 1.291, 1.292

2003-11-04 Thread Matthew Toseland
Update of /cvsroot/freenet/freenet/src/freenet/node In directory sc8-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv1809/src/freenet/node Modified Files: Node.java ConnectionOpener.java Main.java Log Message: 6506: Fix the NPE by keeping a default Presentation for stats purposes, don't log FCP Messages in PH stat

[freenet-CVS] freenet/src/freenet/client ClientCore.java,1.6,1.7

2003-11-04 Thread Matthew Toseland
Update of /cvsroot/freenet/freenet/src/freenet/client In directory sc8-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv1809/src/freenet/client Modified Files: ClientCore.java Log Message: 6506: Fix the NPE by keeping a default Presentation for stats purposes, don't log FCP Messages in PH stats Index: ClientCore.j

[freenet-CVS] freenet/src/freenet/node/states/FNP NewRequest.java, 1.41, 1.42

2003-11-04 Thread Matthew Toseland
Update of /cvsroot/freenet/freenet/src/freenet/node/states/FNP In directory sc8-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv1809/src/freenet/node/states/FNP Modified Files: NewRequest.java Log Message: 6506: Fix the NPE by keeping a default Presentation for stats purposes, don't log FCP Messages in PH stats I

Re: [freenet-dev] packet-level compression

2003-11-04 Thread Ken Corson
Edgar Friendly wrote: Zlatin Balevsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: We are often sending 10s of messages in a single packet; most of these messages are very similar (i.e. QRs). While each message in itself isn't well compressible because of the nature of the strings it contains, a packet with 20 mes

Re: [freenet-dev] Re: I/O error replying

2003-11-04 Thread Tom Kaitchuck
On Monday 03 November 2003 11:45 pm, Martin Stone Davis wrote: > I have no idea if is will actually help, but: try threadFactory=Y > instead of Q; and also try increasing maximumThreads to at least 300. > Make sure to remove the % (comment), and restart freenet. Let us know > what happens either w

Re: [freenet-dev] Interesting statistics and anecdotes

2003-11-04 Thread Ken Corson
Hi Dave, I took your suggestion to heart - I doubled my maximumThreads from 120 to 240, and ran it overnight. But it didn't make a noticable change to my 'localQueryTraffic by hour' numbers, so I'm restarting (switching back) now ... .. . 11/4/03 4:00:00 AM EST 35162 18640.0530117740742847

[freenet-dev] Dave's suggestion regarding limiting connections, increasing threads

2003-11-04 Thread Doug Bostrom
For what it's worth I've tried Dave's suggestions here, replicating what he did by dropping connections to 256 and increasing threads to 300. The node comes out of nearly constant overload, instead hovers in the 80 percent range. Also while less total data is being transferred (60MB/hour vs. 10

[freenet-CVS] freenet/src/freenet/node/rt RoutingPointStore.java, 1.6, 1.7

2003-11-04 Thread Niklas Bergh
Update of /cvsroot/freenet/freenet/src/freenet/node/rt In directory sc8-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv27635/src/freenet/node/rt Modified Files: RoutingPointStore.java Log Message: Added methods for setting the time values to a maximum and a minumum value. Index: RoutingPointStore.java ===

[freenet-CVS] freenet/src/freenet Version.java,1.501,1.502

2003-11-04 Thread Matthew Toseland
Update of /cvsroot/freenet/freenet/src/freenet In directory sc8-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv26770/src/freenet Modified Files: Version.java Log Message: 6305: Minor fix to node estimators page Index: Version.java === RCS file: /cvsr

[freenet-CVS] freenet/src/freenet/node/rt StandardNodeEstimator.java, 1.18, 1.19

2003-11-04 Thread Matthew Toseland
Update of /cvsroot/freenet/freenet/src/freenet/node/rt In directory sc8-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv26770/src/freenet/node/rt Modified Files: StandardNodeEstimator.java Log Message: 6305: Minor fix to node estimators page Index: StandardNodeEstimator.java ===

[freenet-CVS] freenet/src/freenet/node/rt RoutingPointStore.java, 1.5, 1.6

2003-11-04 Thread Niklas Bergh
Update of /cvsroot/freenet/freenet/src/freenet/node/rt In directory sc8-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv25022/src/freenet/node/rt Modified Files: RoutingPointStore.java Log Message: Documentation and avoid one sutpid exception Index: RoutingPointStore.java ==

Re: [freenet-dev] Interesting statistics and anecdotes

2003-11-04 Thread Ken Corson
Ian Clarke wrote: Toad wrote: This strongly suggests that routing is not doing terribly great. The I don't refuse to admit the possibility, I just think that it is unlikely and that there are much more likely explanations (such as The problem could be that many of them simply aren't receiving en

[freenet-CVS] freenet/src/freenet Version.java, 1.500, 1.501 PeerHandler.java, 1.41, 1.42

2003-11-04 Thread Matthew Toseland
Update of /cvsroot/freenet/freenet/src/freenet In directory sc8-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv24267/src/freenet Modified Files: Version.java PeerHandler.java Log Message: Fix NPE. Index: Version.java === RCS file: /cvsroot/freenet/fr

[freenet-dev] Possible cause of some of the routing problems

2003-11-04 Thread Toad
Recently the unstable branch has had some major refactoring to the estimator code going on. One major bug introduced seems to have caused very strange estimates - zero or several centuries. We are fixing this. It may have caused some of the recent problems - but it was only introduced a few days ag

[freenet-CVS] freenet/src/freenet/node/rt NGRoutingTable.java, 1.23, 1.24 StandardNodeEstimator.java, 1.17, 1.18

2003-11-04 Thread Matthew Toseland
Update of /cvsroot/freenet/freenet/src/freenet/node/rt In directory sc8-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv23044/src/freenet/node/rt Modified Files: NGRoutingTable.java StandardNodeEstimator.java Log Message: 6303: Logging for insane estimates etc. Index: NGRoutingTable.java ==

[freenet-CVS] freenet/src/freenet Version.java,1.499,1.500

2003-11-04 Thread Matthew Toseland
Update of /cvsroot/freenet/freenet/src/freenet In directory sc8-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv23044/src/freenet Modified Files: Version.java Log Message: 6303: Logging for insane estimates etc. Index: Version.java === RCS file: /cvsr

[freenet-CVS] freenet/src/freenet/node/rt RoutingPointStore.java, 1.4, 1.5

2003-11-04 Thread Niklas Bergh
Update of /cvsroot/freenet/freenet/src/freenet/node/rt In directory sc8-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv21502/src/freenet/node/rt Modified Files: RoutingPointStore.java Log Message: Respect the desired initTime Index: RoutingPointStore.java ==

[freenet-dev] Re: Usability improvement ideas

2003-11-04 Thread Martin Stone Davis
Toad wrote: On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 09:10:08AM -0500, Daves Lists wrote: Always active jobs. Here's what I generally look like once the node has been up and running a few hours. I tried bringing the threads up to support the connections but that always seemed to cause the node to slow down and th

[freenet-CVS] freenet/src/freenet PeerHandler.java,1.40,1.41

2003-11-04 Thread Niklas Bergh
Update of /cvsroot/freenet/freenet/src/freenet In directory sc8-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv18137/src/freenet Modified Files: PeerHandler.java Log Message: I wonder why that import ended up there... Gave the 'v' support class a somewhat better name and made it private. Index: PeerHandler.java =

Re: [freenet-dev] Interesting statistics and anecdotes

2003-11-04 Thread Toad
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 02:30:54AM -0500, Daves Lists wrote: > I also didn't want to change to many settings. I've always been going on the > assumption that freenet is just trying to work my computers to hard. I setup > a test machine with a default config with a 2gig datastore and let it fill. >

[freenet-CVS] freenet/src/freenet PeerHandler.java, 1.39, 1.40 OpenConnectionManager.java, 1.160, 1.161

2003-11-04 Thread Niklas Bergh
Update of /cvsroot/freenet/freenet/src/freenet In directory sc8-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv16134/src/freenet Modified Files: PeerHandler.java OpenConnectionManager.java Log Message: Display messages sent and received by type on the secondmost and most detailed OCM PeerHandler HTML page. Index

Re: [freenet-dev] Interesting statistics and anecdotes

2003-11-04 Thread Toad
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 12:04:26AM -0500, Daves Lists wrote: > I just replied to the Usability improvement ideas thread on this before I > noticed this thread. All 4 of my nodes reject for the same reason. They > don't like the default config. I had to reduce the max connections down to > 256 and r

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