On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 17:53, Thorsten Behrens
wrote:
>...
> Allen, how can you, with a straight face, ask people here to come
> over to a different project, that likely noone here is really happy
> with, that was setup as a fait acompli, marketed as the "natural
> upstream", removes rights from
Right!
Apache doesn't want any copyrights. It just wants to sublicense and
create derivative works.
More information (and the ICLA) are located here:
http://www.apache.org/licenses/#clas
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 21:17, Dennis E. Hamilton
wrote:
> Here's my sense of how they are different thin
On 06/15/2011 08:20 AM, Marc Paré wrote:
> Le 2011-06-15 10:09, plino a écrit :
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Here's my sense of how they are different things:
The ICLA is not a copyright assignment of any kind. It is only a license and
your affirmation that you have the right to grant it.
The OCA non-exclusively transfers a property right. The license doesn't work
that way. My understanding is th
Hi Allen, *,
Allen Pulsifer schrieb:
> On that point, let me be clear: There are
> millions of potential users for OOo, LO, and open document formats.
> Many of those potential users work in companies, government agencies
> and other organizations that routinely trust Microsoft, Oracle, IBM
> an
Hi Greg, *,
sorry, forgot to post links..
Friedrich Strohmaier schrieb:
> I pull this in a new thread, as it is basic for understanding the
> difference between OCA and ICLA.
> Greg Stein schrieb:
> [..]
>> Let's also not forget that neither TDF nor the ASF require copyright
>> assignment. Th
Hi Greg, *,
I pull this in a new thread, as it is basic for understanding the
difference between OCA and ICLA.
Greg Stein schrieb:
[..]
> Let's also not forget that neither TDF nor the ASF require copyright
> assignment. The copyright remains with the contributor.
Same thing with OCA. You don'
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Strong backing for a truly free and vendor-neutral office suite
The Document Foundation provides solid grounds to build upon
The Document Foundation today announced the first members
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Klaibson Ribeiro
wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I was thinking if we organize an Magazine on LibreOffice, with members of
> all communities the world?
>
> Good week.
>
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What if an electronic p
Sounds like a good idea if there are enough people to assist with
pulling it off.
What is hands-on training? Training on how to use LibO apps? Or is it
more in line with a hacking session?
What is being certified?
Carl
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 1:13 PM, drew wrote:
> Howdy,
>
> Had a chance to s
Allen Pulsifer wrote:
> If most or almost all of the LO contributors joined the Apache
> OpenOffice project, if only to lend moral support and help heal
> the rift, that would only be good for LO and the TdF.
>
Allen, how can you, with a straight face, ask people here to come
over to a different p
Howdy,
Had a chance to speak with one of the organizers for the Ohio Linux fest
(Columbus, Ohio, USA) regarding the possibility of holding a LibreOffice
hackfest/QA session.
They are quite interested and motivated to help us do this.
The date would be Friday September 9th, this day is mostly use
Hello,
this is just a short announcement that the LibreOffice Hackfest will
(most likely) be from September 2nd to 4th in Munich - just got
confirmation. More details, an "official" announcement plus a wiki page
will follow soon, but I hope this helps to save the date. ;-)
Florian
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Hi,
Marc Paré wrote on 2011-06-15 17.20:
There are still some Gmane lists that are not working well. Some lists
you can post a "new" thread, but cannot respond to any threads even your
own thread.
This list "discuss" is now working correctly as you can see from my test
messages.
I guess they
+1, if we have the money, and when the Foundation legally exists. The
current budget is already *very* tight, so we cannot spend more until we
have some more income.
Charles-H. Schulz wrote on 2011-06-15 20.24:
So let me rephrase this proposal. Given the membership fee, do you
approve TDF join
Davide Dozza wrote:
> Sorry Allen but you are in contradiction. Before you say "Regardless of
who's fault" and at the end
> it seems you are accusing TDF to be the cause of the community fracture.
I made no accusations and assigned no fault. I'm also not interested in
assigning fault or blame. T
Le Wed, 15 Jun 2011 17:19:44 +0200,
Thorsten Behrens a écrit :
> Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
> > I remember we wanted to join the OASIS Consortium :-)
> > After checking within the OASIS, it appears the annual membership
> > cost for NGO is around 700 Euros (1100 USD).
> >
> Hi Charles, all,
>
> w
Il 15/06/2011 17:44, Allen Pulsifer ha scritto:
> Thorsten Behrens wrote:
>> ...you don't discuss e.g. trademark issues on a public list, if you want
> to stand a chance actually obtaining it.
>
> I can see how you might believe this, but I'm not sure it is grounded in
> fact or experience. In fa
It's also not located on _every_ page on the TDF/LO websites. The text I quoted
is, and the change I called for would be.
Ben
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Allen Pulsifer wrote:
> Thorsten Behrens wrote:
> > ...you don't discuss e.g. trademark issues on a public list, if you want
> to stand a chance actually obtaining it.
>
> I can see how you might believe this, but I'm not sure it is grounded in
> fact or experience.
>
Hi Allen, oh, I was referring
Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
> The French Association La Mouette, co-organising the LibreOffice
> Conference and representing the french speaking community, is drafting
> a pamphlet / brochure to be handed out to some specific audience
> (CIOs - CTOs of specific sectors) . La Mouette is asking us the
>
Thorsten Behrens wrote:
> ...you don't discuss e.g. trademark issues on a public list, if you want
to stand a chance actually obtaining it.
I can see how you might believe this, but I'm not sure it is grounded in
fact or experience. In fact, look at where we ended up:
- Oracle pulled all resourc
Le Wed, 15 Jun 2011 17:19:44 +0200,
Thorsten Behrens a écrit :
> Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
> > I remember we wanted to join the OASIS Consortium :-)
> > After checking within the OASIS, it appears the annual membership
> > cost for NGO is around 700 Euros (1100 USD).
> >
> Hi Charles, all,
>
> w
Maybe it's a language issue, but no, the imprint does nothing
at all to make it clear. It simply says, in effect, FroDev wrote
the content and they are responsible for the content on
the site. It says nothing at all about the legal structure
at all.
On Jun 15, 2011, at 10:54 AM, Florian Effenberge
Hello,
The French Association La Mouette, co-organising the LibreOffice
Conference and representing the french speaking community, is drafting
a pamphlet / brochure to be handed out to some specific audience
(CIOs - CTOs of specific sectors) . La Mouette is asking us the
authorization to use the f
Le 2011-06-15 10:09, plino a écrit :
Nabble posts are working.
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Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
> I remember we wanted to join the OASIS Consortium :-)
> After checking within the OASIS, it appears the annual membership cost
> for NGO is around 700 Euros (1100 USD).
>
Hi Charles, all,
wearing my TDF hat here (and not my OASIS one - with that, I'd
warmly welcome this
Le 2011-06-15 08:54, Volker Merschmann a écrit :
Hi,
2011/6/15 klaus-jürgen weghorn ol:
I'd like to make a request. It is much, much easier to report on these things
quickly if there is a URL in the press release that points to the news.
Is it possible in future to include such a URL in the n
+1. Go ahead.
Question: Is ASF in OASIS? (just me as an ignorant sarcastic)...
Olivier
2011/6/15 Charles-H. Schulz
> Hello,
>
> I remember we wanted to join the OASIS Consortium :-)
> After checking within the OASIS, it appears the annual membership cost
> for NGO is around 700 Euros (1100 USD
On 6/15/11 6:57 PM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
I would like to ask officially to the SC to approve this membership fee
and process to the membership registration process. Sophie Gautier
would be the primary contact person, while Thorsten (under Suse
flagship) would lead the technical works, at lea
Hi,
BRM wrote on 2011-06-15 15.47:
should be updated to reflect the legal reality that while TDF is being setup it
is an sub-entity of FroDeV; listing out who specifically owns the trademarks,
etc. That would go a long way in saying TDF is or is backed by an actual legal
hm, isn't this the exa
Hello,
I remember we wanted to join the OASIS Consortium :-)
After checking within the OASIS, it appears the annual membership cost
for NGO is around 700 Euros (1100 USD).
I would like to ask officially to the SC to approve this membership fee
and process to the membership registration process. S
Hello,
Mark Wielaard wrote on 2011-06-15 14.34:
And if possible please also add a "News from the TDF Blog" widget to the
frontpage like already on libreoffice.org. Then it would be immediately
clear that The Document Foundation is a lively and active entity.
Currently it takes some poking around
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Hi Sam,
On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 09:27:17 -0400
Sam Ruby wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 8:40 AM, Sigrid Carrera
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
[...]
> > can someone enlighten me please? What is ICLA or a non-CLA?
> > I have no idea and would like to know, what you're talking about.
>
> Here is the ASF's
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> From: Florian Effenberger
> Greg Stein wrote on 2011-06-14 17.09:
> > It is simply that newbie's have NO UNDERSTANDING of this. Florian had
> > to explain all the details because they are not on the website.
>
> I guess the truth lies in between. :-)
>
> Indeed,
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 8:40 AM, Sigrid Carrera
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 14:37:15 -0400
> Greg Stein wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 14:04, Simon Phipps wrote:
>> > On 14 Jun 2011, at 18:27, Greg Stein wrote:
>> >> For a larger body of work, these kinds of (non-CLA) contributions
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 9:18 AM, Simon Phipps wrote:
> May I suggest we "call time"[1] on this discussion please?
+1
> S.
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Hi :)
+1
I think my eyes have been going funny.
Regards from
Tom :)
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Hi Florian,
On Wed, Jun 15, 201
On Jun 14, 2011, at 8:00 PM, Keith Curtis wrote:
> \
> I also make more posts because I'm amazed that some "leaders" in our
> movement with the pedigree of IBM are actually hindrances. I see a story
> worthy of the New York Times. In fact, I have a connection ;-)
And I'm surprised that some "lea
On 15 Jun 2011, at 13:54, Volker Merschmann wrote:
> So it must be the way blogging->copying the link->pasting to
> mail->sending the announcement with the link. Not nice, but possible.
In WordPress, the URL is known before publication, so there's no need to blog
first. Nice & clean :-)
S.
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Hi,
2011/6/15 klaus-jürgen weghorn ol :
> I'd like to make a request. It is much, much easier to report on these things
> quickly if there is a URL in the press release that points to the news.
>
> Is it possible in future to include such a URL in the news item please? Given
> you are using Word
Hi Florian,
On Wed, 2011-06-15 at 11:57 +0200, Florian Effenberger wrote:
> Indeed, we seem to lack some comprehensible page directly reachable with
> all the details. However, we have been regular announcing status and
> facts via e-mail, our blog, social networks, and the donations
> ("challe
Hi,
On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 14:37:15 -0400
Greg Stein wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 14:04, Simon Phipps wrote:
> > On 14 Jun 2011, at 18:27, Greg Stein wrote:
> >> For a larger body of work, these kinds of (non-CLA) contributions
> >> become less clear. And without clear provenance, then Apache
Am 15.06.2011 14:28, schrieb Volker Merschmann:
Hi Simon,
2011/6/15 Simon Phipps:
I'd like to make a request. It is much, much easier to report on these things
quickly if there is a URL in the press release that points to the news.
Is it possible in future to include such a URL in the news it
On 15 Jun 2011, at 13:28, Volker Merschmann wrote:
> Hi Simon,
>
> 2011/6/15 Simon Phipps :
>> I'd like to make a request. It is much, much easier to report on these
>> things quickly if there is a URL in the press release that points to the
>> news.
>>
>> Is it possible in future to include
Hi Simon,
2011/6/15 Simon Phipps :
> I'd like to make a request. It is much, much easier to report on these things
> quickly if there is a URL in the press release that points to the news.
>
> Is it possible in future to include such a URL in the news item please? Given
> you are using WordPress
I'd like to make a request. It is much, much easier to report on these things
quickly if there is a URL in the press release that points to the news.
Is it possible in future to include such a URL in the news item please? Given
you are using WordPress to publish the news, it's easy to know the
Hi Greg,
Greg Stein wrote on 2011-06-14 17.09:
It is simply that newbie's have NO UNDERSTANDING of this. Florian had
to explain all the details because they are not on the website.
I guess the truth lies in between. :-)
Indeed, we seem to lack some comprehensible page directly reachable with
First TDF Advisory Board members demonstrate wide corporate support for
LibreOffice
Strong backing for a truly free and vendor-neutral office suite
The Document Foundation provides solid grounds to build upon
The Document Foundation today announced the first members of its
Advisory Board: Goog
Allen Pulsifer wrote:
>
> creating a new version of the source code and making changes that
> they did not contribute back to the official distribution.
I think this is the most serious accusation and yet nobody bothered to
comment...
I'm confused on how a modification can be contributed back i
Thorsten Behrens wrote (15-06-11 09:50)
Allen Pulsifer wrote:
The seeds of that fork were germinated in the Go-Oo project, which
created patches and enhancements that were not contributed back to
the official OOo distribution. That became a full fork when the
LibreOffice project was started by
Allen Pulsifer wrote:
> The seeds of that fork were germinated in the Go-Oo project, which
> created patches and enhancements that were not contributed back to
> the official OOo distribution. That became a full fork when the
> LibreOffice project was started by importing all of the OOo source
> c
Hi,
NoOp wrote on 2011-06-15 04.38:
What other lists are also affected?
all @global.libreoffice.org ones, i.e. the ones previously at
@libreoffice.org
Florian
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