Re: [tdf-discuss] How Close Is TDF...? [WAS Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal: Splitting^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HREUNITING the Community?]

2011-06-18 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote: > I guess a slight risk that needs to be taken care of exists in all > constellations. In the worst (!) situation, Apache could die as foundation, > so could TDF. For TDF, it is rather unlikely, as German foundations are > built in a w

Re: [tdf-discuss] How Close Is TDF...? [WAS Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal: Splitting^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HREUNITING the Community?]

2011-06-09 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote on 2011-06-09 12.22: In addition, such topics could be covered by a contract. I can imagine, without speaking officially for the German association here, that there would have been no problem in signing a contract that sets certain limitations on what could be do

Re: [tdf-discuss] How Close Is TDF...? [WAS Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal: Splitting^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HREUNITING the Community?]

2011-06-09 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 3:55 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote: > Hi, > Robert Burrell Donkin wrote on 2011-06-07 09.00: > >> (I'll try to avoid asking too many questions at once) > > Feel free, I try to reply to all of them, if they haven't been replied in > the meantime by someone else. Hard time fo

Re: [tdf-discuss] How Close Is TDF...? [WAS Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal: Splitting^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HREUNITING the Community?]

2011-06-07 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote on 2011-06-07 09.00: (I'll try to avoid asking too many questions at once) Feel free, I try to reply to all of them, if they haven't been replied in the meantime by someone else. Hard time following all mail threads. :-) 1. What would constrain this legal e

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2011-06-07 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Jun 6, 2011, at 4:20 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote: > Hi, > > Jim Jagielski wrote on 2011-06-06 22.13: >> Good to see the list... Not knowing things for sure, but I >> would guess that Oracle had issues with #3, which gave away >> (what I would expect to be) huge chunks of h/w infrastructure,

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2011-06-07 Thread Cor Nouws
Robert Burrell Donkin wrote (07-06-11 09:00) The TDF certainly seems confident. People (and corporations) are often reluctant to accept claims from campaigning organisations without public evidence. Hopefully, we might be able to work together to establish clearly and in public where the TDF is

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2011-06-07 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 9:21 PM, Volker Merschmann wrote: > Hi, > > 2011/6/6 Jim Jagielski : >> On Jun 6, 2011, at 3:57 PM, Volker Merschmann wrote: >>> 2011/6/6 Robert Burrell Donkin : Until the TDF has taken that last step, expect to be challenged about your readiness ;-)

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2011-06-06 Thread Volker Merschmann
Hi, 2011/6/6 Jim Jagielski : > On Jun 6, 2011, at 3:57 PM, Volker Merschmann wrote: >> 2011/6/6 Robert Burrell Donkin : >>> >>> Until the TDF has taken that last step, expect to be challenged about >>> your readiness ;-) >>> >>> I'd like to take up your offer :-) >>> >>> But here on this list and

Re: [tdf-discuss] How Close Is TDF...? [WAS Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal: Splitting^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HREUNITING the Community?]

2011-06-06 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, Jim Jagielski wrote on 2011-06-06 22.13: Good to see the list... Not knowing things for sure, but I would guess that Oracle had issues with #3, which gave away (what I would expect to be) huge chunks of h/w infrastructure, esp to an entity which was still in the process (though close!) of fi

Re: [tdf-discuss] How Close Is TDF...? [WAS Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal: Splitting^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HREUNITING the Community?]

2011-06-06 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Jun 6, 2011, at 3:57 PM, Volker Merschmann wrote: > Hi Robert, > > 2011/6/6 Robert Burrell Donkin : >> >> Until the TDF has taken that last step, expect to be challenged about >> your readiness ;-) >> >> I'd like to take up your offer :-) >> >> But here on this list and on the understandin

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2011-06-06 Thread Volker Merschmann
Hi Robert, 2011/6/6 Robert Burrell Donkin : > On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 8:02 PM, Florian Effenberger > wrote: >> Greg Stein wrote on 2011-06-05 20.39: > > > This might not affect other topics, but honestly, I think the perception of what already is in existence is not clear enough fo

[tdf-discuss] How Close Is TDF...? [WAS Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal: Splitting^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HREUNITING the Community?]

2011-06-06 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
(I've dropped the cross post to the Apache Incubator since I'd like to pick up just the topic of readiness) On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 8:02 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote: > Greg Stein wrote on 2011-06-05 20.39: >>> This might not affect other topics, but honestly, I think the perception >>> of >>>