Re: [IxDA Discuss] US News thinks we have potential!

2007-12-24 Thread Desiree McCrorey
Chris Dame <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I saw that US News recently ran an article on the "Best Careers of 2008" > This seems like a great sign that we are nearing the tipping point, along > with all of the good and bad things that come along with it. > > Personally, I was excited to see it and r

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Interesting tab navigation example

2007-12-24 Thread Jeff Seager
> "i'm not sure why the current batch of > accessibility software (screen readers being > the most common) are so far behind today's > browsers. maybe there's a legitimate reason > that i don't know about but from what > i've seen they're just way behind." Very true, Matt. I think it's mostly abo

Re: [IxDA Discuss] The mighty UX guru has spoken - Discuss!!

2007-12-24 Thread Daniel Szuc
For many years we stayed away from the design part -- now see both as very intertwined - user research, wireframe, usability test, repeat ... Usability results can be harder to communicate without a design to talk to. Talking to the design or leading up to communicating the design around the

Re: [IxDA Discuss] US News thinks we have potential!

2007-12-24 Thread Bryan Minihan
Unfortunately, I knew several such leaders in the network engineering and tech support fields, but can't recall any in web design/development (caveat: I haven't worked in an agency or big SW shop like SAP/IBM/MS, so can only speak for my enterprise and startup experience). On the other hand, I hav

Re: [IxDA Discuss] US News thinks we have potential!

2007-12-24 Thread Bryan Minihan
Thanks for sharing, Chris...very nice to see "our name in lights" even if it's only the script-writers getting the credit. At least it's a start =]. I agree with your misgivings about the article, and can only think that our profession is evolving such that another few years from now will see the

Re: [IxDA Discuss] US News thinks we have potential!

2007-12-24 Thread Jeff Seager
>"Science has a while before osmosis becomes >a viable business practice." Yep! I think your reservations about this article tie together some things others here have said in a different thread (or threads) in the last few days, Chris. Mark Schraad lamented the occasional disadvantages of compro

Re: [IxDA Discuss] On the topic of twitter - Why?

2007-12-24 Thread Daniel Szuc
Yup. Twitter would have been a great tool growing up and filled the gap just after Summer Camp in Australia where we all wanted to keep in more contact as we waited another year for Summer Camp to start again. We used to use the phone more to chat and meeting up at people's houses for vide

Re: [IxDA Discuss] US News thinks we have potential!

2007-12-24 Thread William Evans
My only bone to pick with them, well - one bone to pick is the use of "specialist" which in a narrow sense is a very specific title for people in our field with 1-3 years of expertise - or in the pejorative sense means someone who can 'only' do usabilty or UX. Specialization is for ants. Th

[IxDA Discuss] US News thinks we have potential!

2007-12-24 Thread Chris Dame
I saw that US News recently ran an article on the "Best Careers of 2008" (http://www.usnews.com/features/business/best-careers/best-careers-2008.html), and a new addition this year is "Usability/User Experience Specialist", which arguably we are. This seems like a great sign that we are nearing the

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Interesting tab navigation example

2007-12-24 Thread Jeff Seager
In the final analysis, there is no perfect objective test that's automatic. Ther are too many variables, including doctypes, and many of the accessibility criteria can only be assessed by the subjective human mind. That said, I use and appreciate http://www.cynthiasays.com/ after checking for

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Does eye-tracking carry any real meaning?

2007-12-24 Thread hanif o'neil
> Someone as knowledgeable on the subject as yourself could do the world > some good by refuting the list that started this conversation, or at least > debating the merits of eye tracking. > > Eye-tracking provides unique methods to assess the impact of digital media i.e., advertisements and web pa

Re: [IxDA Discuss] When/Where/How did you decide to be a designer?

2007-12-24 Thread Al Selvin
My path: film/video studies (undergraduate), low-level film/video production jobs ==> master's program in communication arts specializing in telecom policy but including more video and film stuff, as well as programming (Pascal), general interest in shaping new communications technologies ==> tea

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Interesting tab navigation example

2007-12-24 Thread pauric
Jeff: "Is it harder to sell simplicity if it truly is the best solution?" Mark Twain once received this telegram from a publisher: NEED 2-PAGE SHORT STORY TWO DAYS. He responded: NO CAN DO 2 PAGES TWO DAYS. CAN DO 30 PAGES 2 DAYS. NEED 30 DAYS TO DO 2 PAGES. There within lies 'the sell'. The

Re: [IxDA Discuss] The mighty UX guru has spoken - Discuss!!

2007-12-24 Thread Jeff Seager
Jim said: > Go back even further. I heartily recommend a > study of heraldry %u2014 coats of arms. Layering > of colors, readability at a distance, > points of difference%u2026 there's a lot of good > basics there that have been around for > 1000 years. Agreed! In a different context, look even f

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Interesting tab navigation example

2007-12-24 Thread Jeff Seager
Pauric: "I would restate the issue you describe as too much design effort on creating delight, part of the 'essential' granted but, at the cost of defining the core goals. This results in feature creep in my view (and gmail is well down that road now)." My thinking exactly, Pauric! I also very mu

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Must we be Leonardo de Vinci?

2007-12-24 Thread Matthew Nish-Lapidus
Agreed. There will -always- be compromise, even in the most ideal situations. Unless your project has a single stakeholder, then there will be compromise to please all parties. Compromise doesn't mean "bad" though, and sometimes compromises can actually lead to better solutions, ones that a sing

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Interesting tab navigation example

2007-12-24 Thread O2ateam
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Must we be Leonardo de Vinci?

2007-12-24 Thread Desiree McCrorey
Mark Schraad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What IS frustrating within the corporate environment is that so often > compromise is the outcome. We may have different perspectives on compromise, Mark. The best I would expect from a product development effort would be a compromise; a delicate balan

Re: [IxDA Discuss] When/Where/How did you decide to be a designer?

2007-12-24 Thread Matthew Nish-Lapidus
This is a great thread! One for the archives for sure. My path to IxD started when I was a kid and we got our first C64 I suppose. I immediately took to programming, and when we got an Appl IIe with Logo on it graphics became my main interest. >From there I got more and more into computers and

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Interesting tab navigation example

2007-12-24 Thread Matthew Nish-Lapidus
That's a fantastic idea actually... taking the common practice of progressive enhancement a step further, so that the "enhancements" aren't just about making things prettier/fun/fluid, but also about making things work better for different groups of people. this seems like a really great approach,

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Interesting tab navigation example

2007-12-24 Thread pauric
Jeff:" it seems to me there are a lot of people actively working in a manner that pulls us away from accessible design, which has many benefits for all of us. For the most part, I think it's because they don't understand it""This is a choice Google made, and it's their choice to make, and as a