Re: [IxDA Discuss] Help with navigation levels on website

2008-02-22 Thread Bill Fernandez
Johan-- I do not believe that for optimal usability a navigational structure *must* be shallow, or that all branches *must* be equally deep, or that you *must* never present more than 5 +/- 2 choices, etc. It's more important to me that the forward traversal of each path makes sense, that each

Re: [IxDA Discuss] friday fun: what's the coolest thing you've designed?

2008-02-22 Thread Bill Fernandez
Probably the HyperCard UI, because HyperCard empowered non-programmers to create their own software, and a lot of people created a lot of cool stuff with it. --Bill -- == Bill Fernandez * User Interface Architect * Bill Fe

[IxDA Discuss] JOB User Experience Designer, New York, NY, Lime Bits (full time)

2008-02-22 Thread Jonathan A. Marshall
USER EXPERIENCE DESIGNER at Lime Bits LIME BITS is developing an innovative software system intended to empower people to share their own creations and to collaborate on group creations. You'll join the Lime Bits team and help overturn the ancient traditions of software development.  Your elegant

[IxDA Discuss] Extending the Keyboard

2008-02-22 Thread Etkin Ciftci
A Russian design firm, namely Art Lebedev Studio is designing input devices with OLED screens. (see: http://www.artlebedev.com/everything/optimus/) Well, I get idea of replacing the standard keyboard with the one that has customizable look and functions. But the "Mini Three", a product that extend

Re: [IxDA Discuss] What is Graphic Design?

2008-02-22 Thread Jeff White
All of those were awesome. My favorite: "graphic design was here before pixels". On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 8:25 PM, Andrei Herasimchuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Feb 22, 2008, at 2:34 PM, Steven Keith wrote: > > > That is smart. A great idea. For that matter, I love the idea of > > people

Re: [IxDA Discuss] What is Graphic Design?

2008-02-22 Thread Andrei Herasimchuk
On Feb 22, 2008, at 2:34 PM, Steven Keith wrote: > That is smart. A great idea. For that matter, I love the idea of > people > using their craft to describe their craft. Yes it is. And Veerle is amazing designer herself to boot. It's a great contest and great article. If she's reading... I h

Re: [IxDA Discuss] The Critique - your rules for a productive session

2008-02-22 Thread Jeff White
Awesome topic! This is so relevant to the work I'm doing now, and I'm happy to see others bringing this up for discussion. My input is in the context of a bunch of people bringing their work into a room, presenting it, then the whole room critiquing each idea. Not really a stakeholder review of a

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Where are all the designers?

2008-02-22 Thread Jim Leftwich
I'm glad to see the passion in the voices here. They represent a wide range of experiences and viewpoints. Issues as complex and potentially contentious as definition and identity are difficult to explore within the significant constraints of a text-based forum. Those of us that have participate

Re: [IxDA Discuss] The Critique - your rules for a productive session

2008-02-22 Thread Chauncey Wilson
Hi Lisa, Very good question. Some thoughts. 1. What is the goal of the critique? Are you using it to teach people about design (I've always felt that user interface inspections are a way to do some indirect training)? Are you using it to examine competing designs? Are you using to examine sp

Re: [IxDA Discuss] NYC February '08 event: Kudos all around!

2008-02-22 Thread Sudhindra
Hey MJ... It was wonderful to be around for this event and meet up with you rocking folks!! NYC IxDA rocks. Yes, IxDA does have a global reach and I have had many contacting me in Bangalore to check up the ways and means of meeting up with our peers. Is there a post about what was the action pla

Re: [IxDA Discuss] The Critique - your rules for a productive session

2008-02-22 Thread Jack Moffett
> The audience members: Find something you think has been done well before you start criticizing weak points. Realize that you should be learning from others successes and failures, not just giving feedback. > The designer: Give thoughtful consideration to every comment given and then re

Re: [IxDA Discuss] What is Graphic Design?

2008-02-22 Thread Steven Keith
That is smart. A great idea. For that matter, I love the idea of people using their craft to describe their craft. -- > Steven Keith | Director of Interactive | capstrat > 919 882 1972 voice > 919 771 5219 mobile > 919 834 7959 fax > 1201 Edwards Mill Road, Suite 102, Ral

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Sharing/Bookmarking UI

2008-02-22 Thread Maxim Soloviev
Thank you for the link, Bryan! Probably I'll stick to this solution if I'll find something better. Thanks again! -- Maxim Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubsc

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Portfolios

2008-02-22 Thread Anthony Hempell
Here's one more tip re portfolios: include credits for the people you worked with. If you're showing examples of final product, credit the designer/art director/creative director, the technical lead, the producer/PM... it doesn't have to be a laundry list of everyone who came to a meeting,

Re: [IxDA Discuss] The Critique - your rules for a productive session

2008-02-22 Thread Jeff Howard
My background is in graphic design and I taught it for a while so these are a little slanted toward that discipline. Three guidelines I learned as an undergrad and that I passed on to my students: 1. Never use phrases such as: "I like [blank]." Too subjective. Instead frame it as "[Such and such]

Re: [IxDA Discuss] IxD(a) meetings in London

2008-02-22 Thread Niklas Wolkert
Hi Matt et al. Sounds like a plan! We did pretty much the same thing in Stockholm. I spoke some to Mikhail Goldgaber from Avenuea-Razorfish (cc) back in Savannah who also expressed interest in doing something IxDA local in London. Just let me know if there's anything we can do to support you, ot

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Portfolios

2008-02-22 Thread Cindy Alvarez
I'd agree with that. Lots of products don't make it to market for reasons well beyond the designer's control - and lots of products have a finished state that was nothing like the designer's intent because of exec ex machina. HOW you worked - researched, prioritized, sketched, tested - given what

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Portfolios

2008-02-22 Thread Ari Feldman
i hear that. that's it's always advisable to bring deliverables from hefty specs to wireframes and any other pertinent matter. this shows not only how you think and what you've done - it also shows that you're thorough and prepared. i also advise preparing leave-behinds when possible - be it prin

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Years 1 and 2 [was: Re: Where are all the designers?]

2008-02-22 Thread David Shaw
Welcome to the list Michael! This topic has been discussed quite a bit, but I don't think there's real consensus yet between everyone (especially for courses). Robert Reimann did a post a while back titled "Most important skills of an IX Designer". This was actually a great post and may help gui

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Slightly OT: Where is the sustainable PC?

2008-02-22 Thread Gloria Petron
I agree with you that sustainable efforts should start with sustainable thinking, but fortunately, there are some sustainable initiatives that can happen without an altruistic motive. I offer you an example of a business sector which has adopted sustainability, complete with dedicated internal & ex

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Portfolios

2008-02-22 Thread Dmitry Nekrasovski
I have to disagree with this. While it is great to show that you've been able to drive a design to completion/release (especially if applying for a position that demands a certain level of experience), a list of finished products does nothing to show a prospective employer your process, deliverable

[IxDA Discuss] The Critique - your rules for a productive session

2008-02-22 Thread Lisa deBettencourt
To distract you all a moment from the current frenzy of posts, I am looking for your input on a very specific topic: the Critique. The Critique is an art in and of itself. It is an opportunity for designers to get feedback on their work, to illicit suggestions and to uncover areas that need refine

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Sharing/Bookmarking UI

2008-02-22 Thread Bryan Minihan
I looked at "addthis.com" awhile back, which puts one of those "you can have everything you want" things in one button the page: http://www.addthis.com/ It's kind of the lazy approach, so I haven't used it because I'd like to find out which bookmarking tools my audience actually uses most, but at

Re: [IxDA Discuss] What is Graphic Design?

2008-02-22 Thread dave
Jeff this is awesome! what about running a contest for the interaction09 where we challenge designers to use their craft to communicate what their practice is? -- dave . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from ixda.org (via iPhone) http://www.ixda.org/discus

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Where are all the designers?

2008-02-22 Thread Charles B. Kreitzberg
**David said "Let's just say I disagree and arrogantly so, admittedly. Since I'm no longer a board member, or vice-president, I've been taking a more free position with my language on this list." I am not certain that anything I say will influence your thinking on this subject. **David said: "I v

[IxDA Discuss] Sharing/Bookmarking UI

2008-02-22 Thread Maxim Soloviev
Hello everybody :) I'm designing blog. And client wants to have option for visitors to add/submit particular post to online bookmarking or digg-like services. But there are so many of them around.. Is there any better solutions than simply pick 5-10 of them hoping that current visitor uses one of

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Portfolios

2008-02-22 Thread Ari Feldman
for job interviews and/or pitching a client this is an absolute must. sage advice. layout is subjective but i have my online for reference in an email and because i have a printer-friendly version of my online portfolio, which is data-drive, i can easily generate a printed version of a portfolio d

[IxDA Discuss] Fields order in a job form

2008-02-22 Thread Yann Allin
Hi everybody, I'm wondering how to order fields in a job search form. My first guess was to place the fields in the following order: 1- Keywords 2- Job 3- Area 4- Experience 5- Type of Contract According to my client, the right way is to put the keywords field at the end! On the other hand, it

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Portfolios

2008-02-22 Thread Weixi Yen
> a link to a finished product (if possible) The most important thing is not what you said you did, but what you actually did. If your projects are not coming to fruition due to mistakes by other members of your team, you should probably create fake projects in your free time to demonstrate a pos

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Years 1 and 2 [was: Re: Where are all the designers?]

2008-02-22 Thread Michael Martinez-Campos
I've been studying interactive design/HCI topics the last few months without much structure. Currently trying to find some sort of undergraduate interactive programs to enroll in. Is there a general consensus of what skills a junior designer should be able to bring to the table? PS: My first post

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Creative Navigation

2008-02-22 Thread Nikki Roberg
Russell, I understand what your point is and do agree with you that it's a different approach to navigation design. I too didn't have an issue figuring out that hovering over or clicking on the orange triangle would do *something*--I wasn't sure what but that doesn't bother me on an entertainment

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Portfolios

2008-02-22 Thread JenniferVignone
Everyone should have a portfolio in print form. It just speaks to a level of preparedness and covering as many bases as possible, which exemplifies what this type of work is about. My online presence runs a gamut of the different things I do. I am less likely to update that for each and every me

[IxDA Discuss] Documentation

2008-02-22 Thread Celeste Cefalu
Happy Friday All~ I'm wondering if anyone in the group has any resources for design documentation. I have a pretty good handle on my own documents, wireframes, sitemaps, flows and the like; but I've been charged with the task of redesigning and standardizing documentation for an entire production

Re: [IxDA Discuss] IxD(a) meetings in London

2008-02-22 Thread Bruno Figueiredo
I'm working in London as well and I've been to some of the UPA meetings (I'm a member of UPA) who are really great. I think it would be great to do some IxDA meetings too. I know a bunch of people in the area and I'm sure I could persuade them to join us as well. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

[IxDA Discuss] What is Graphic Design?

2008-02-22 Thread Jeff Howard
Here's a refreshing approach. Turns out it's possible to address definitions without bitter discussion threads. Who knew? :-) http://veerle.duoh.com/blog/comments/ winners_of_the_what_is_graphic_design_poster_competition/ // jeff

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Where are all the designers?

2008-02-22 Thread David Malouf
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 3:07 PM, Charles B. Kreitzberg < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In my opinion, that will not happen if we are focused on proving that we > are > different from everyone else. By all means, we should be clear what we > stand > for and advocate for the type of design and profess

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Creative Navigation

2008-02-22 Thread Jeff White
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:56:50, Jeff Seager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Clearly, very few people understand > the principles of (or need for) accessibility in web design. > But sometimes it's not needed - like enterprise web apps that live in a very controlled environment. This is the context in

Re: [IxDA Discuss] IxD(a) meetings in London

2008-02-22 Thread dave malouf
Matt, that is really similar to how NYC got started. I might suggest alternatively considering the great conference content, that you pull a meeting around that content and create a conversation space. alternatively you might want to give a repeat performance of your talk to those who couldn't att

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Creative Navigation

2008-02-22 Thread Barbara Ballard
I intuitively jumped to the area to the right of the triangle, not the triangle itself. Was there anything else to do on the page? No idea. But, to your original question, check out http://www.etsy.com and the different "ways to shop". We've been using many of these as inspiration recently, with a

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Where are all the designers?

2008-02-22 Thread Charles B. Kreitzberg
Hi David: " I shuddered when I read your top 10. I wrote 5 pages and deleted all b/c I was really upset when writing it." I assume you were not shuddering with delight? Really, I am sorry to have caused you distress; that was certainly not my intention. " I think that you need to re-think the ab

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Where are all the designers?

2008-02-22 Thread Sebi Tauciuc
> > FWIW... Involution is looking for both senior and junior level folks, > although we only post officially for senior level positions. > -- > Andrei Herasimchuk > Applying to a position takes me at least half a day (that includes some research and the customized letter of intent). In general,

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Creative Navigation

2008-02-22 Thread Jeff Seager
What's interesting to me is the diversity of opinions expressed about the navigation technique, Russ. Clearly, very few people understand the principles of (or need for) accessibility in web design. I agree with the points made by Ian, the guy who gave it a "C," but I give it a "D" for the same re

Re: [IxDA Discuss] IxD(a) meetings in London

2008-02-22 Thread Peter Boersma
Matt (hi!) wrote: > Hi - I came back from the IxDA conference in Savannah with just the > thought that perhaps there should be a regular IxDA meetup in London. [..] > Perhaps the best thing to do would be just to pick a pub with a > friendly upstairs and put something on upcoming... You may also w

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Portfolios

2008-02-22 Thread Bryan Minihan
A lot of my work over the past 5 years was corporate intranet type stuff, and the nature of my work improves the design/development process as much (if not more than) the final result, so I came up with this format: http://bryanminihan.com/case-mygskredesign.html It keeps me from being too wordy (

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Portfolios

2008-02-22 Thread Jack Moffett
On Feb 22, 2008, at 2:31 PM, Cindy Alvarez wrote: > It is, but I have yet to see someone do this well. There's a > temptation to hand over pieces of paper and wait for me to ask > questions, and that just doesn't impress me. I'm willing to > believe there are folks who can do this well, b

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Portfolios

2008-02-22 Thread Ari Feldman
i agree with this but websites are not permanent - i worked on many and quite a few no longer exist or exist as they did when i was involved. the same goes for applications. i had a bunch i wrote in my early 20s that were pretty cool that could probably run under an emulator if i had saved the flo

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Portfolios

2008-02-22 Thread Sebi Tauciuc
For some of the reasons outlined by Cindy, I started with an online portfolio. This way, I figured, the portfolio itself would show my skills of creating an interactive experience, not only the content. But since I wrote all the html+css myself, I must say it was a bit hard and time-consuming to ma

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Portfolios

2008-02-22 Thread Katie Albers
Since I know about my own experience, I'll stick to it. My portfolio is a PowerPoint file (and anyone who knows me will find that hysterically funny) because (1) I have NDAs that specify I can't reproduce work done online; (2) I've done a lot of work on internal and password protected sites, so

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Portfolios

2008-02-22 Thread Cindy Alvarez
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Jack Moffett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Feb 22, 2008, at 2:07 PM, Cindy Alvarez wrote: > > > When people put their work in an online format, it's their > > responsibility to > > figure out "what can I show? how can I explain why what I did was > > valuable

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Slightly OT: Where is the sustainable PC?

2008-02-22 Thread Jeff Seager
Sebi said: "I guess a way to rephrase the question would be: 'When will they start providing services instead of products?' " I think that's a shrewd way of looking at it, and it begs another question: When will we demand that? It's like all service. We have to support the services we want and re

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Portfolios

2008-02-22 Thread Jack Moffett
On Feb 22, 2008, at 2:07 PM, Cindy Alvarez wrote: > When people put their work in an online format, it's their > responsibility to > figure out "what can I show? how can I explain why what I did was > valuable? how can I explain my thought process?" That's the same > type of > critical pro

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Portfolios

2008-02-22 Thread sajid saiyed
For any Website and Web application, I think a print style potfolio can not do full justice except give a preview of the visual design. It can not explain the navigation, interaction, usability issues etc. I think the 'feel' would be missing... IMO. - sajid On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 12:26 AM, Je

[IxDA Discuss] Years 1 and 2 [was: Re: Where are all the designers?]

2008-02-22 Thread Barbara Ballard
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 9:58 AM, Mary Austin-Keller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think this is a serious problem with both our area and the general > software industry. There are so few junior job postings. Most are for 3-5 > years or more. Yet, how do you get those 3-5 years without year 1

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Portfolios

2008-02-22 Thread Cindy Alvarez
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Jeff White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For months now, I've been wanting to redo my portfolio. I'm curious as to > what approaches everyone is taking out there, and I'm really interested in > tangible, print style portfolios, not a website. > > What approach did

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Portfolios

2008-02-22 Thread Ari Feldman
what works for a portfolio is a matter of preference and is largely determined by who your intended audience is. i think anyone focusing on UI and IxD, should probably have a portfolio with one or more screen shots of your work, a description of the project, your direct role, tools and techniques

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Twitter signup problem

2008-02-22 Thread sajid saiyed
Sorry, The second image should be: http://www.ssdesigninteractive.com/blog/images/twitter_2.jpg -sajid On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 12:25 AM, Gloria Petron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sajid, > I think you posted the same JPEG twice. > Can you re-check? > -G > _

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Portfolios

2008-02-22 Thread Jeff White
Yes, I believe so - I strictly work on websites and web applications. But I would guess that folks out there doing interaction design for products and other experiences can still capture their work with photography and the right kind of documentation. Although I'm sure there are exceptions. Jeff

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Portfolios

2008-02-22 Thread sajid saiyed
Hi, Just out of curiosity, is everything that you want to show can be explained or justified in a print style tangible format? -sajid On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 12:08 AM, Jeff White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For months now, I've been wanting to redo my portfolio. I'm curious as to > what approac

[IxDA Discuss] Twitter signup problem

2008-02-22 Thread sajid saiyed
Hi, Did anyone else notice this? If you go to the Twitter signup page, the only thing that it says below the username is: 'No spaces please.' ok, so I entered username as: sajid.saiyed and it said, wow the username is available (see the image I captured: http://www.ssdesigninteractive.com/blog/im

[IxDA Discuss] Portfolios

2008-02-22 Thread Jeff White
For months now, I've been wanting to redo my portfolio. I'm curious as to what approaches everyone is taking out there, and I'm really interested in tangible, print style portfolios, not a website. What approach did you take for your portfolio? What have you seen from others that you like? What re

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Where are all the designers?

2008-02-22 Thread Dmitry Nekrasovski
Andrei, My original statement was meant very generically, and not at all as an ad hominem attack on you or your organization. If it came across as such, my sincere apologies. I am all for hiring people who are passionate about their work and challenging them early and often. To me, companies who

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Where are all the designers?

2008-02-22 Thread Robert Skrobe
Hi Andrei, On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Andrei Herasimchuk < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just a quick question: Where are all the interface and software > designers in Silicon Valley? Has everyone just packed up and left or > what? I see more job listings, postings and calls for resumes and

[IxDA Discuss] RFID and physical hyperlinks

2008-02-22 Thread paige saez
A friend from the Dorkbot PDX mailing list sent me this since he knows I am researching "Physical Hyperlinks" like QR Codes and RFID tags in devices and mobile utilities. I am really excited about this work. It ties in with my work very clearly which gives me hope for the future of the intersection

Re: [IxDA Discuss] IxD(a) meetings in London

2008-02-22 Thread Matt Jones
Hi - I came back from the IxDA conference in Savannah with just the thought that perhaps there should be a regular IxDA meetup in London. As you say - there are a few regular events by other associations and fantastic, more-irregular events such as Http://www.thishappened.org, but I reckon there w

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Creative Navigation

2008-02-22 Thread James Leslie
"I think the reader who gave the design a solid "C" is being rather harsh." I'm primarily a front end developer, so I look at things like making sites inaccessible as a bad thing. This site is inaccessible, when it doesn't need to be... At least the lo-fi version of the site could (or should) ha

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Creative Navigation

2008-02-22 Thread W Evans
Scott's right - if it's intended audience is younger (than me), entertainment site, and they added some beefed up flash on the home - like concert footage or something - plus Britney doing a perp walk - it's pretty cool :-) On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 1:06 PM, Jeff White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Where are all the designers?

2008-02-22 Thread dave malouf
I'll apologize for my part. I think part of the issue of these discussions is that "practice" is so unique. As an enterprise software guy for 10 years now, I got this in spades. But on this list, we try to engage in discussions that can be generalized outside of the individual organizational experi

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Where are all the designers?

2008-02-22 Thread Cindy Alvarez
WOW. I missed Dave's original comment and all I can say is, wow. I'm certainly glad that my early jobs didn't seek to "protect" me from learning a lot, and quickly. There are certainly some things I wouldn't throw at junior staff. High-pressure client-facing meetings is one of them. ...Actually,

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Creative Navigation

2008-02-22 Thread Jeff White
That specific implementation aside, I like the idea of 'collapsed navigation' in certain situations. As Will implies - there are certain times when navigation could be less important than other content on the screen. For public websites, it seems a little risky. But for complex apps that serve a n

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Where are all the designers?

2008-02-22 Thread Andrei Herasimchuk
On Feb 22, 2008, at 9:38 AM, Dmitry Nekrasovski wrote: > An organization that claims to practice human-centric design without > having a human-centric approach to developing its people is either > hypocritical, or has misplaced its priorities, or both. Ok... hold on one quick minute... Now you

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Creative Navigation

2008-02-22 Thread Scott McDaniel
I think it gets some benefit of the doubt as an entertainment site as well. Scott -- 'Life' plus 'significance' = magic. ~ Grant Morrison Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PRO

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Where are all the designers?

2008-02-22 Thread dave malouf
Hi Charlie, I shuddered when I read your top 10. I wrote 5 pages and deleted all b/c I was really upset when writing it. I think that you need to re-think the above in the context of IxDA a bit more. The pull to generalize and break down walls feels noble, but it is in that light of UPA and CHI tr

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Where are all the designers?

2008-02-22 Thread Anjali R Arora
I think Dave has put this very well. This fact is often times overlooked in our focus on the obvious competitive elements ( we'll do it faster, cheaper, etc) This was what i was telling a colleague this morning explaining my skepticism of UXD managers who have not practiced the discipline themse

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Creative Navigation

2008-02-22 Thread W Evans
It was attractive, but the orange arrow definitely some Fitt's issues. The arrow is decent size - but if you didn't tell me - I would have had no idea that that launched navigation. It's not that the site content on the main page is so busy with imagery and content that there is even a need to hide

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Creative Navigation

2008-02-22 Thread Charles B. Kreitzberg
I thought it was a really nice site and I like the design. I can see that there might be come confusions about the fact that the orange arrow leads to the menu. Perhaps it should have a word like "menu" on it or something to make it clear that it is clickable. The visual design is really nice (as

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Where are all the designers?

2008-02-22 Thread Dmitry Nekrasovski
Amen Dave. An organization that claims to practice human-centric design without having a human-centric approach to developing its people is either hypocritical, or has misplaced its priorities, or both. Dmitry On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:11:01, dave malouf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Andrei, I under

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Slightly OT: Where is the sustainable PC?

2008-02-22 Thread Josh Evnin
There's a great article in last month's Interactions Magazine on this topic: Two Digital Divides and Four Perspectivesby Eli Blevis I think this is the first article in the new series on sustainability. Great stuff, and not off topic for this group at al

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Where are all the designers?

2008-02-22 Thread dave malouf
Andrei, I understand your problem, but hiring junior staff without first putting in protections for them is a huge waste of time. I realize that small orgs like yours have limited resources, but maybe that just means, stick w/ sr. staff. the "cold water" approach is just "mean" IMHO and as human

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Where are all the designers?

2008-02-22 Thread Andrei Herasimchuk
On Feb 22, 2008, at 7:38 AM, dave malouf wrote: > Digital vs. Software. Ok, then we are in agreement. I was thinking of > "software" more specifically, meaning that which is presented > through a screen, but if you want software to mean anything running > through silicon, great. Yes. Also, as a

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Where are all the designers?

2008-02-22 Thread Charlie Kreitzberg
Sorry about the %u2013 in the post above. I believe those are quotation marks. Charlie . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=26170 Welcom

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Where are all the designers?

2008-02-22 Thread Charlie Kreitzberg
Liz, you asked: %u201CSo, what are some of the best means we (IxDA) could employ to communicate the IxD message & self-definition with recruiters, HR departments, education, business leaders, etc.?%u201D I think that is a very important question. It cuts to the core of what IxDA must do if it is

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Means to an IxDA message? WAS: Where are all the designers?

2008-02-22 Thread Jeff Howard
Incidently, this is a good example of the interplay between interaction design and other subdisciplines of design. Designing the ecosystem of touchpoints that encourage recruiters to play nice with everyone is the interaction design problem. Crafting the system of incentives and consequences that s

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Where are all the designers?

2008-02-22 Thread Andrei Herasimchuk
> On 2/21/08 6:59 PM, "Loren Baxter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I'd like to reiterate Dave's earlier point of a distinct lack in >> career path. Fresh out of college, the only two companies in >> California I found that were willing to hire junior IxD's were >> Google and Intuit. Most other

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Where are all the designers?

2008-02-22 Thread dave malouf
One of the things I've been exposed to at Motorola is our HR thinking in terms of the industrial design group. Recruitment is a journey that often begins with bachelor corporate sponsored projects at schools that the management have deep relationships with. I mention this b/c in the software worl

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Means to an IxDA message? WAS: Where are all the designers?

2008-02-22 Thread dave malouf
Pauric, I'm confused. Are you saying that portfolios is a bad idea or a good one? Or bad b/c Coroflot covers it already. Coroflot has approached us and wants us to do something with them, btw. They would love if we would use their engine the way AIGA does, so it wouldn't be redundant per se, but j

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Slightly OT: Where is the sustainable PC?

2008-02-22 Thread Sebi Tauciuc
Great questions. I guess a way to rephrase the question would be: "When will they start providing services instead of products?". Obviously, as long the business model is 'sell as many products as possible and use whatever resources are cheapest", there aren't too many incentives for them to produ

[IxDA Discuss] NYC February '08 event: Kudos all around!

2008-02-22 Thread MJ Broadbent
Kudos all around for a wonderfully successful event in New York City last night! We had about 35 people attend David Lipkin's very thoughtful and well- designed presentation on "The Interaction in Interactive TV". You could have heard a pin drop in there last night. Special props to: -- Dav

[IxDA Discuss] Creative Navigation

2008-02-22 Thread Russell Wilson
I'm not trying to drive people to my blog (I have enough traffic now), but I posted a very short entry highlighting what I feel is a very creative navigation method. http://www.dexodesign.com/2008/02/creative-navigation.html I would love to get IxDA'ers opinions because many of my readers do not

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Where are all the designers?

2008-02-22 Thread W Evans
"Yet, how do you get those 3-5 years without year 1! Yes, I have 3-5 years experience, but I think we all are doing ourselves a disservice by not hiring junior folks. If you're out there hiring, try to consider a junior position, even as a contractor position if necessary." I knwo businesses are

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Slightly OT: Where is the sustainable PC?

2008-02-22 Thread Gloria Petron
Ah, but that would make sense. :-) When I think cars and gas and oil, I automatically think "Special Interest Groups". Not an impossible nut to crack, as we're seeing. But it takes a long time to pull off a major shift in thinking, especially when there's a lot of money to be made keeping things t

[IxDA Discuss] Silverlight work?

2008-02-22 Thread Michael Micheletti
Just curious if anyone on this list is working on anything substantial with Microsoft Silverlight (http://www.microsoft.com/silverlight/). Have you taken it beyond the marketing/early-demonstration/casual-game realm yet? There appears to be some demand here in the Seattle area for people with Silv

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Interaction Design and Theatre

2008-02-22 Thread Maria De Monte
Andrew, Patrick... I am contacting thos who you signaled... I'll post what comes up next... Thanks once more... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=26112 _

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Interaction Design and Theatre

2008-02-22 Thread Maria De Monte
Alain, I mean keeping in mind HCI while writing the script, using videos, recorder music, mic, projections as actors in the play, and well... So I would say probably the best anwer to 'You incorporated HCI in the script of the play that you wrote, and perhaps also in the stage instructions to t

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Interaction Design and Theatre

2008-02-22 Thread Maria De Monte
Sorry for being a little late in replying, but I was kinda busy keeping track of your replies and direction... so first of all, thank you all for your suggestions. I will surely go straight on reading Brenda Laurel's books and Chauncey Wilson's detailed list of articles. Jeff Howard exactly got m

[IxDA Discuss] Slightly OT: Where is the sustainable PC?

2008-02-22 Thread Kim Bieler
I've just finished installing a RAM upgrade to my three-year-old Mac to keep it viable for another year and I'm wondering: Why is no-one out there building a sustainable desktop PC? In graphic design, we've got to buy new hardware every 3-5 years (sooner, if you're not a cheapskate like me)

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Where are all the designers?

2008-02-22 Thread Mary Austin-Keller
I think this is a serious problem with both our area and the general software industry. There are so few junior job postings. Most are for 3-5 years or more. Yet, how do you get those 3-5 years without year 1! Yes, I have 3-5 years experience, but I think we all are doing ourselves a disservic

[IxDA Discuss] Slightly OT: Where is the sustainable PC?

2008-02-22 Thread Kim Bieler
I've just finished installing a RAM upgrade to my three-year-old Mac to keep it viable for another year and I'm wondering: Why is no-one out there building a sustainable desktop PC? In graphic design, we've got to buy new hardware every 3-5 years (sooner, if you're not a cheapskate like me)

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Means to an IxDA message? WAS: Re: Where are all thedesigners?

2008-02-22 Thread Gloria Petron
That's a fantastic idea! On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 11:56 PM, Dante Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What about a recruiting workshop or panel at the next Interaction > conference? I think it could be very interesting to see a group of internal > recruiters, headhunters, hiring managers, freelan

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Means to an IxDA message? WAS: Where are all the designers?

2008-02-22 Thread pauric
Dave: "a "portfolio" site where prospects can put up their portfolios and hiring managers can easily search and browse." I was of the impression that the onus was on recruiters to do the searching and browsing, and the problem is that they dont - its simply easier to hit Send, think later. Also,

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Where are all the designers?

2008-02-22 Thread dave malouf
Ok, back to Andrei ... Digital vs. Software. Ok, then we are in agreement. I was thinking of "software" more specifically, meaning that which is presented through a screen, but if you want software to mean anything running through silicon, great. Of course, a lot happens on the firmware level and

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