Re: [IxDA Discuss] IxDA Email Changes... speaking of confusing UI

2008-12-30 Thread Damon Dimmick
I'm with you, William. I know the site's built to allow this kind of comp/locational validation, I'm just saying that the experience is confusing and tedious. An end user doesn't sit back and think how nifty the authentication system is, they just think "what the heck is this??" Etc etc. -Damon

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Forms - selecting a country

2008-12-30 Thread William Brall
I like how google does it for their site. In that they guess right 99% of the time and give you a way to change it if they are wrong. You can guess, based on things like IP and other factors. Where the user is. And no matter the context, this is the best default.. Unless you run a service that spe

Re: [IxDA Discuss] IxDA Email Changes... speaking of confusing UI

2008-12-30 Thread William Brall
Have you ever wondered how the site authenticates you? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=36748 Welcome to the Interaction Design Assoc

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Default UI standards for phone keypads: Audiotex

2008-12-30 Thread Phillip Hunter
John, There are very old semi-standards that companies such as the pre-breakup AT&T published that also included menu structure guidelines. In practice, though, these are not used widely enough to call them standards. In addition, your example actually mixes a voicemail-type system references wi

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Profile picture for multiple social networks

2008-12-30 Thread jason z
For the most part, yes, though there's an extensive list of how to incorporate Gravatars on various platforms here: http://en.gravatar.com/site/implement Like you said, it's a good step, though not a complete solution. On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 1:48 PM, Sebi Tauciuc wrote: > Hi Jason, > > Thank

[IxDA Discuss] IxDA Email Changes... speaking of confusing UI

2008-12-30 Thread Damon Dimmick
Touch of irony here... I was just trying to update my email address for this list So, this hole had probably been excavated before, but does anyone else find the process of updating you email address on the IxDA website to be terribly counter intuitive? No offense to the good people who actual

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Profile picture for multiple social networks

2008-12-30 Thread Sebi Tauciuc
Hi Jason, Thanks, this looks like a good step, however nothing about the giants I mentioned - it only seems to work on blogs. Is that right? Sebi On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 9:40 PM, jason z wrote: > Check out Gravatar: > http://en.gravatar.com/ > > > > On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Sebi Tauciu

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Profile picture for multiple social networks

2008-12-30 Thread jason z
Check out Gravatar: http://en.gravatar.com/ On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Sebi Tauciuc wrote: > Hi all, > > This may be obvious to others, but it's not clear to me: > > Is there a good enough reason why when I want to change my profile picture > for Google, Yahoo!, Skype, LinkedIn and all t

[IxDA Discuss] Profile picture for multiple social networks

2008-12-30 Thread Sebi Tauciuc
Hi all, This may be obvious to others, but it's not clear to me: Is there a good enough reason why when I want to change my profile picture for Google, Yahoo!, Skype, LinkedIn and all the other social networks I'm a part of (i.e. IxDA :) ), I have to go to all these places and upload the new pict

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Forms - selecting a country

2008-12-30 Thread Jack Moffett
On Dec 30, 2008, at 3:26 PM, Allison Walker wrote: Yes, tiny countries would be difficult. I think you'd need a pretty big map, unless you can do some type of fish-eye selection like the Dock on the Mac. Which is why they typically only use maps for the initial selection of a continent

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Forms - selecting a country

2008-12-30 Thread Allison Walker
Yes, tiny countries would be difficult. I think you'd need a pretty big map, unless you can do some type of fish-eye selection like the Dock on the Mac. If you choose auto-complete, after the selection you could show a picture of the country as a verification. You'd then need to have an accurat

[IxDA Discuss] Default UI standards for phone keypads: Audiotex

2008-12-30 Thread John Vaughan
There seem to be some default UI standards in terms of "dedicated" numeric keypad functionality on most phone-based platforms, s.a: "1" - Do it "7" - Delete it "9" - Save it "*" - Up one level in hierarchy / Back "#" - Confirm / Submit entry Is there a central reference source for such conventio

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Forms - selecting a country

2008-12-30 Thread James Page
I think the challenge of maps is trying to select a small country in size. Try selecting Monte Carlo, the Vatican, St Kits and Nevis, and even slightly larger ones like Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Montenegro, Bosnia, Benin, Togo. James 2008/12/30 Allison > Well, I don't really see too many map

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Forms - selecting a country

2008-12-30 Thread Allison
Well, I don't really see too many maps on web forms...but, it depends I guess. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=36720 Welcome to the

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Forms - selecting a country

2008-12-30 Thread Jeff White
A rough idea I haven't really thought through yet is a combination of this and a text form field with autocomplete. You could either click on a country or start typing. The auto complete suggestions would then correlate to highlighted countries on the map. Thanks, Jeff On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 10:

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Forms - selecting a country

2008-12-30 Thread Jeff White
Yes, I could. This is the direction I was thinking, but I was curious as to what other designers are doing or have seen. Thanks, Jeff On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 10:10 AM, Allison wrote: > I don't know what your limitations are, but could you have an > auto-complete feature where the user just star

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Forms - selecting a country

2008-12-30 Thread Jake Trimble
Using a user's IP address to tell you where they are is NOT a good idea. The proxy will fool you too often. For accessibility and language issues I would use a graphical map approach just like Jack suggested. This way even if the language is different, the user still knows where their country is o

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Forms - selecting a country

2008-12-30 Thread Allison
I don't know what your limitations are, but could you have an auto-complete feature where the user just starts typing and possible countries show up? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=36720 _

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Forms - selecting a country

2008-12-30 Thread Gilles Demarty
Hello to the list, hello Jeff. On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 5:56 PM, Jeff White wrote: > Thanks for all of the responses so far. Yohan, I'd be very interested in > your multilingual country database - thanks for sharing. Good default value [1] is your friend here. IP-address provides information abo

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Forms - selecting a country

2008-12-30 Thread Jack Moffett
Many support sites begin with a map, having the user select the continent or region first, and then presenting a list of countries. If a graphical map isn't feasible, you could use two menus: one for continent/region that then populates the second with a filtered list of countries. Best,

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Forms - selecting a country

2008-12-30 Thread Jeff White
Thanks for all of the responses so far. Yohan, I'd be very interested in your multilingual country database - thanks for sharing. Jeff On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 7:56 AM, Yohan Creemers wrote: > Michael, > In this case language and country are not related. > The language used for the list is the l

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Functional Level Personas Was d&d character sheet as a persona model

2008-12-30 Thread Todd Zaki Warfel
On Dec 30, 2008, at 7:36 AM, James Page wrote: You run into the challenge with that the Persona are validated by opinion. Actually, if you look at the model I use, it's heavily based on data. So, they are created from a combination of qualitative (interview and observation) data and ofte

Re: [IxDA Discuss] using a blog to drive ecommerce (and/or customer engagement)

2008-12-30 Thread Dye, Sylvania
Our Customer Evangelist, Betsy Weber, maintains a blog for our products and company: http://visuallounge.techsmith.com/ I don't have data on how much it drives sales, but it definitely increases customer engagement. I do have some anecdotal reports via customer feedback that at least some users

[IxDA Discuss] New York Times - City - Urban Stu dies - Revenge of the Nerds‏

2008-12-30 Thread Gloria Petron
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/28/nyregion/thecity/28tink.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=Revenge%20of%20the%20Nerds&st=cse By BEN POPPER Published: December 26, 2008 A ROBOTIC roller skate propels itself across the fifth floor of an old sewing factory at 397 Bridge Street in Downtown Brooklyn. The softly lig

[IxDA Discuss] using a blog to drive ecommerce (and/or customer engagement)

2008-12-30 Thread Tania Schlatter
Hi all, Any examples or stories about companies using a blog to drive sales of products on the web? For example, Design Within Reach delivers emails on request that include products and more - events, background stories, etc., but they don't put this type of content into a blog (that I kn

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Forms - selecting a country

2008-12-30 Thread Yohan Creemers
Michael, In this case language and country are not related. The language used for the list is the language of the user interface. In my opinion the list of country names should be in the same language as the rest of the page. On a French web page the list will start with: Afghanistan Afrique du

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Forms - selecting a country

2008-12-30 Thread Michael Tuminello
A common mistake in listing languages for selection is to list them all in the form designer's native tongue (eg english, french, spanish; rather than english, francais, espanol). Seeing this post made me curious about how/if this problem should be addressed in country listings. It seems

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Functional Level Personas Was d&d character sheet as a persona model

2008-12-30 Thread James Page
Todd, You run into the challenge with that the Persona are validated by opinion. Most Persona I have seen would be statistically imposable to relate back to a real person. As **Chris Boese discussed before on this list you should not generalize qualitative data. Or as some Anthropologists would sa

[IxDA Discuss] Tog on Gestures will force the mouse into retirement

2008-12-30 Thread Will Evans
@hannusalonen tweeted this article this morning which was in the Financial Times. Including the article b/c it was behind an annoying signup/registration process. http://tinyurl.com/9hmpj4 "The Tog: Mouse users are "little more than cavemen, running around pointing at symbols and 'grunting' with e

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Functional Level Personas Was d&d character sheet as a persona model

2008-12-30 Thread Todd Zaki Warfel
On Dec 30, 2008, at 4:35 AM, James Page wrote: My argument before that Persona is not a valid method as there is no way to validate if a persona reflects a real person applies to design-project-wide personas, and may not apply to Functional Level Personas. Once we've developed personas,

[IxDA Discuss] Functional Level Personas Was d&d character sheet as a persona model

2008-12-30 Thread James Page
Jared, So just after you have got everybody reading about Activity Theory, now you are getting them to read up about Functionalism :-) So we now have as basis of design. UCD, SCD, ACD, and now FCD. Functionalism is an interesting an idea to use for design. see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Functi

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Forms - selecting a country

2008-12-30 Thread James Page
Jeff, We have just done a Remote Usability study where one of the issues was people selecting their country. The system been tested placed the country where it thought the user was from at the top of the drop down list of 195 countries. This is a common pattern with sites in America often listing

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Forms - selecting a country

2008-12-30 Thread Yohan Creemers
Sorry to disappoint you, but I think a dropdown with 195 country names is the most convenient way to select the country you live in. I propose to use the official UN list * of ISO 3166-1 country names in the same language as the rest of the form **, ordered alphabetically. My design consideration