Re: [IxDA Discuss] Interaction'09 Conference Proceedings

2009-09-20 Thread Kaleem
You can find all of the 2009 conference proceedings -- primarily video of the talks -- at http://library.ixda.org/ -K . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=45843

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Interaction'09 Conference Proceedings

2009-09-20 Thread Janna Hicks DeVylder
Hi Phil, Here you go: http://library.ixda.org/ We need to integrate that back into the site. Thanks for your good humor about it. :) Janna President, IxDA On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 10:19 PM, Phil Ohme wrote: > I know we are an un-organization but I wanted to see if the conference > proceedings

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Need tips on how to formalize usability activities in a big Internet business organization

2009-09-20 Thread Neha
I am a consultant to a web based product company and we are trying to 'institutionalise' Usability in the organization. In my opinion, not all projects need User Testing at the concept level. There may be some projects where we develop prototypes based on our experience as experts and then take the

[IxDA Discuss] Interaction'09 Conference Proceedings

2009-09-20 Thread Phil Ohme
I know we are an un-organization but I wanted to see if the conference proceedings are published anywhere. Mostly looking for the 2009 ones from Vancouver. Could not find anything at http://interaction09.ixda.org . Let me know if you know. Thanks! ___

Re: [IxDA Discuss] What are your principles for making digital products/services

2009-09-20 Thread dave malouf
richard, re: Craigslist I would buy that appropriate aesthetics, if someone told me it was a designed decision versus the outcome of lack of attention. I think that historical context has done more to sway the success of stuff like craigslist and MySpace (the example that demonstrates the open fl

Re: [IxDA Discuss] What are your principles for making digital products/services

2009-09-20 Thread Dave Malouf
On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 10:12 PM, Jared Spool wrote: > I haven't really formulated principles this way, since my interest is more > in terms of critique and analysis of what's been done. Now this is interesting to me ... If critique & analysis have different criteria for "success" or description

Re: [IxDA Discuss] What are your principles for making digital products/services

2009-09-20 Thread Jared Spool
On Sep 20, 2009, at 7:59 PM, Dave Malouf wrote: Hi Jared, re: "usability" I said how I'm thinking of it. It is rooted in my pretty broad experience of practice, my reading of peers case studies (the ones they make available to me) and my listening to presentations. It's all I got. I do not se

Re: [IxDA Discuss] What are your principles for making digital products/services

2009-09-20 Thread Richard Dalton
Dave - very glad you brought this thread back to the principles! You said: > Clarity over simplicity - simple is as simple does. Be clear is > always required, simplicity is not always the goal, but > simplicity CAN aid in clarity Which I thought was interesting because when I first read Thomas'

Re: [IxDA Discuss] What are your principles for making digital products/services

2009-09-20 Thread Dave Malouf
Hi Jared, re: "usability" I said how I'm thinking of it. It is rooted in my pretty broad experience of practice, my reading of peers case studies (the ones they make available to me) and my listening to presentations. It's all I got. I do not see anyone practicing the kind of usability practice or

Re: [IxDA Discuss] e-Commerce detail page design

2009-09-20 Thread Jared Spool
On Sep 17, 2009, at 7:49 AM, Porter Langdon wrote: What companies/products do you feel are great examples of detail page design? Who has the most persuasive, engaging content and the best presentation of that content? I've watched hundreds of people shop for electronics online and have a pr

Re: [IxDA Discuss] What are your principles for making digital products/services

2009-09-20 Thread Jared Spool
Not sure I see the contention between usability and aesthetics. Maybe you could give an example from one of your experiences? I see usability as a scalar attribute, measured from Extreme Frustration to Extreme Delight. Efficiency and success rates really only talk to the frustration portion

Re: [IxDA Discuss] What are your principles for making digital products/services

2009-09-20 Thread Chris Dame
Hopefully I'm not dragging the conversation back into the mud, but I understand where both sides are coming from regarding #5. I have seen fundamental changes in products that took them from dying in the market to a a leading example in the field thanks to user observations and usability tests. I h

Re: [IxDA Discuss] This is our process, need your input

2009-09-20 Thread Michelle Rajunov
My quandary is that you mention "developers" in #3 and #16/18, and it seems the developers' input is more of a "let me know if we are doing something impossible, otherwise we'll just go along" type of feedback, and the coding starts after the design is finalized. Developers can't always predict t

Re: [IxDA Discuss] What are your principles for making digital products/services

2009-09-20 Thread Thomas Petersen
"My fear is that aesthetics-over-usability could be interpreted by others in that fashion, even though I know that's not what it means to you." Yes I think you are right but I think it pays to understand what that really means. Function is as important a part of the form and it's hard to separat

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Need tips on how to formalize usability activities in a big Internet business organization

2009-09-20 Thread Daniel Szuc
"do we need an official policy to state that what kind of projects should always involve user testing" Hi Shuan: Where would this policy come from? I ask as it something like this can be seen as imposing or enforcing a rule onto people or a process that is not ready for it. The last think you w