Hi Christopher, I think what Nassim Claim in his book not too much
applied in Design world ,because the following reasons.
1-Nassim claims the reason behind the narrative fallacy is that there
are too many variables in any event that you couldn't control or
expect before the event happen and it be
-boun...@lists.interactiondesigners.com] On Behalf Of
Christopher Rivard
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 8:35 AM
To: disc...@ixda.org
Subject: [IxDA Discuss] Design Thinking and The Black Swan
Design thinking is about creating a narrative of activity, or of modeling a
behavior and designing solut
Design thinking is about creating a narrative of activity, or of
modeling a behavior and designing solutions that will ensure the
expected or anticipated behavior. We typically find ourselves telling
a story of how someone experiences or interacts with a physical device
or service. Much of what des
Suggest there is a nice opportunity (sweet spot) for designers to help
the business translate strategy into design - so design not as it
relates to screens, products or services but as it relates to the
business communicating a vision, business plan or road map.
If you can help management do that
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> From: "Kontra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Scott Berkun:
> > Apple is a great example of what can happen when they do (although to
be
> > fair, I doubt Jobs or Wozniak would call themselves designers.Certainly
not
> > when they started).
>
> I'm baffled by this examp
> - Original Message -
> From: "Christopher Fahey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> If you broaden the definition of design in this way, then it's clear
> that countless companies were founded by and/or eventually helmed by
> designers.
>
> (long stretch of excellent stuff trimmed out)
I agree. I'
Scott Berkun:
> Apple is a great example of what can happen when they do (although to be
> fair, I doubt Jobs or Wozniak would call themselves designers. Certainly not
> when they started).
I'm baffled by this example. Neither Steve would have called himself a
designer at the time.
> Palm et.
Hi Scott,
I agree with a lot of what you are saying, so I won't add much. As far a
Jobs and Wosniak go though, I don't think either is particularly in the
designer category. I think Jobs's particular genius lies in recognizing
good design and scoping out a vision for good design. It also is
-i
>
> "Kontra" wrote: >
> Just three examples of your classic CEOs tone deaf wrt design.
> Destroyed in the marketplace.
All three examples Palm, Motorola and Creative, are competing against Apple,
a company started by two men who quit their jobs at big companies (Steve
Jobs quit Atari and Steve Wo
O yeah - and
"Some corporations send their top people to IDEO just to open their minds.
P&G CEO Lafley took all the people who report directly to him -- his entire
Global Leadership Council of 40 business-unit heads -- to San Francisco for
a one-day immersion. IDEO promptly sent them all out shoppi
"Langley has a design background and internally at P&G"
Wasn't Langley the one that brought IDEO into P&G, and turned the entire
culture into a design culture?
>From the Newsweek article about P&G:
"None of these and a thousand other changes at Procter & Gamble, the
nation's No. 1 consumer-produ
Hey, I totally get the hostility vibe from business while at work. What I
was missing from the conversation was the hostility towards design from
design thinkers and writers.
Our team demands to be at the table early and when decisions are being made.
We do not ask to come... we have even invited o
The new book out by A.G. Lafley and Ram Charan, "The Game-Changer: How You
Can Drive Revenue and Profit Growth with Innovation" is telling in itself.
While I have not yet cracked it, Langley has a design background and
internally at P&G he promotes design as a key strategy and points to it as
an im
"The thing that most amused me is that after he quotes me (out of context,
and
with no link to my original words), he then writes, "Enough of those
pesky design stars with an overinflated belief in their own creative
vision!"
Peter - when I read the article - and saw your quote - I was so flummoxe
Here in New England, we have a saying:
If the glass is half full, you must be an optimist.
If the glass is half empty, well, you're probably a Kennedy.
This feels like a half-full/half-empty kinda thing.
On the one hand, I see where CF is coming from: The move in business
is to acknowledge the
On Apr 27, 2008, at 5:41 PM, Jeff Howard wrote:
> For people who aren't reflexively hostile toward this sort of thing,
> Richard Boland's "Managing as Designing" is a great place to
Thanks Jeff, I'd forgotten this title when replying earlier...I read
it while back, and wasn't insulted at all e
I would second Jeff's recommendation. This is an excellent book.
Mark
On Apr 27, 2008, at 5:41 PM, Jeff Howard wrote:
> For people who aren't reflexively hostile toward this sort of thing,
> Richard Boland's "Managing as Designing" is a great place to
> start. It represents a variety of discipl
On Apr 25, 2008, at 8:42 PM, Scott Berkun wrote:
>> "Christopher Fahey" wrote:
>> There is basically little to no invitation for actual designers to
>> become business players. Designers -- we, the people who practice
>> design and actually design things -- are simply not an integral part
>> of the
For people who aren't reflexively hostile toward this sort of thing,
Richard Boland's "Managing as Designing" is a great place to
start. It represents a variety of disciplines and includes essays by
Frank Gehry, Richard Buchanan from the CMU School of Design and Peter
Coughlan from IDEO. I wasn't i
On Apr 25, 2008, at 11:37 PM, Uday Gajendar wrote:
>> business thing is already breaking apart... But to me it's hard to
>> miss the hosstility towards design, albeit couched in backhanded
>> praise, in most of the canonical design thinking texts.
>
> Can you cite some specific authors, titles, and
Well, now I definitely must join the thread.
A few comments throughtout:
I think Rick's original article was pretty much full of it, and little
more than an expression of small-minded designer thinking. The thing
that most amused me is that after he quotes me (out of context, and
with no li
This issue is interesting given the recent news that Adaptive Path is
looking for a CEO. An interesting note is that they don't explicitly say
they are looking for someone with "Design Thinking/Strategic Design" skills.
In fact - nowhere in the posting on AP's blog to the current leadership team
me
Scott Berkun:
> A CEO does not have to prove his or her design chops, or marketing chops, or
> engineering chops...
Those days are (gradually) coming to a close.
Palm CEO Ed Colligan on iPhone: "We've learned and struggled for a few
years here figuring out how to make a decent phone,'' he said.
> From: "Kontra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> This is a bit of a tangential discussion: you can also ask why CEOs do
> not quit their day jobs and start their own design companies. It puts
> the onus on designers to somehow 'prove' their managerial/financial
> chops to be invited to the proverbial table
Scott Berkun:
> I followed much of your argument until the mention of invitation, which gave
> me pause. A much better question is why most designers (completely
> unsupported claim based on my anecdotal observations) who start companies
> start design consultancies rather than complete entrep
> > "Christopher Fahey" wrote:
> >
> > There is basically little to no invitation for actual designers to
> > become business players. Designers -- we, the people who practice
> > design and actually design things -- are simply not an integral part
> > of the design thinking school of thought.
> "Christopher Fahey" wrote:
>
> There is basically little to no invitation for actual designers to
> become business players. Designers -- we, the people who practice
> design and actually design things -- are simply not an integral part
> of the design thinking school of thought.
I followed much
> business thing is already breaking apart... But to me it's hard to
> miss the hosstility towards design, albeit couched in backhanded
> praise, in most of the canonical design thinking texts.
Can you cite some specific authors, titles, and passages please? It's
a pretty broad statement beggin
Of course designers can be directed to produce sustainable solutions.
Here are a few highly effective examples from The Onion:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mvz_xzaMvCQ
On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 8:50 PM, Oleh Kovalchuke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Christopher Fa
On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Christopher Fahey <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There is basically little to no invitation for actual designers to
> become business players. Designers -- we, the people who practice
> design and actually design things -- are simply not an integral part
> of the de
Christopher Fahey:
> Sometimes they are even actively hostile, painting us as obstacles. Nussbaum
> even says so, directly (if a little facetiously).
Agreed.
When that unfortunate article first came out I had written a series of articles:
Managing design vs. managing designers vs. managing busi
I wrote:
>> ...the cynical and ironically
>> designer-hostile Nussbaum/d.School camp in which "design is too
>> important to be left to designers".
mark schraad wrote:
> Where does that come from? I have never heard Nussbaum or any one
> else of credible substance state this. This sounds like a
right on...
"The business use—the specific goal that motivated the client or sponsor to
> initially fund the work—often fades away, sometimes quickly," he says. "In
> some ways, you might argue that aesthetic value—for an enduring design, at
> least—is the only lasting value, since over time funct
Personally I think it's important for designers to own and evolve the
discussion around design thinking.
On the topic of (generic) innovation - well, that's a wider arena
that is not necessarily owned by designers. Generic innovation, (if
you define it as the staging of value-gain and value-loss
p
Where does that come from? I have never heard Nussbaum or any one else of
credible substance state this. This sounds like a large heaping of angst
talking to me.
Mark
> ...the cynical and ironically
> designer-hostile Nussbaum/d.School camp in which "design is too
> important to be left to de
Will Evans asked:
> Has anyone else read this month's ID magazine article on Design
> Thinking?
> Peter M @ Adaptive is quoted...
I read it and wholly agree with Rick Poyner's sentiments -- that
"design thinking" is being used (a) to permit designers to willingly
degrade and devalue themse
Has anyone else read this month's ID magazine article on Design Thinking?
Peter M @ Adaptive is quoted...
--
~ will
"Where you innovate, how you innovate,
and what you innovate are design problems"
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