> My guess is that android based phones over time will be about
> performance first
On the contrary, therein lies Android's Achilles Heel.
The UX on Android phones will rely on these factors:
1. Back-end service hardware
2. Back-end service software
3. Front-end client hardware
4. F
I agree totally, and this is the point I was trying to make. I would
even add the impact of the business model into the total experience
of a product and the cost to the environment.
Good design finds the sweet spot between the tech, the biz model and
the experience that delights and meets the nee
Hi Greg,
It's still part of the user experience.
I would like to say what you addressed still belongs to bad design vs
good design discussion.
Cheers,
-- Jarod
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 1:58 PM, greg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> One often overlooked element of Google's success is performance.
> Pe
One often overlooked element of Google's success is performance.
Performance for cloud based systems is crucial. You can have the best
design in the world and it will get trumped every time by performance.
Latency is at this moment the most important issue in the experience
of cloud based systems a
there is still a lot to be learned/gained from the blog reports that already
have access to it.
-- dave
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 4:19 PM, seth b <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Seth, the phone came out in Stores on Tues here in the US.
> > Please see your favorite tech blog for an unwrapping: Engad
> Seth, the phone came out in Stores on Tues here in the US.
> Please see your favorite tech blog for an unwrapping: Engadget, Gizmodo,
> other
>
Wrong. It comes out October 22nd. They just previewed it Tuesday.
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I beg your differ here.
Frankly speaking, most of the Google products is from outside except
their search engine. Some bought product but be redesigned by google,
Youtube ( redesigned, and it's not a bad redesign ), Picasa
(redesigned, make it as a integrated part of Google services. It's
really a
On Sep 25, 2008, at 9:13 AM, Jarod Tang wrote:
Besides these, Picasa is quit good designed
Picasa was designed by an ex-Metacreations team and then bought by
Google.
Picasa, GMail, Google Reader ... , all get high rank from their user.
Ok... three out of fifty. One of which was original
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 12:03 AM, Andrei Herasimchuk
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sep 25, 2008, at 1:58 AM, Tamlyn Rhodes wrote:
>
>> In my experience it is only graphic designers who think that Google
>> products are poorly designed. Everyone else just marvels at how easy
>> they are to use and
On Sep 25, 2008, at 1:58 AM, Tamlyn Rhodes wrote:
In my experience it is only graphic designers who think that Google
products are poorly designed. Everyone else just marvels at how easy
they are to use and gets on with it. I'd argue that Google products
are, in the main, exceptionally well desi
There is a huge and deep relationship between the need for interface
work and how well you technology works on the back end. Part of the
elegance and simplicity of Songza was due to how well google
performed. The interface designer's job is very often making a crappy
technology more tolerab
Seth, the phone came out in Stores on Tues here in the US.
Please see your favorite tech blog for an unwrapping: Engadget, Gizmodo,
other
-- dave
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 12:36 AM, seth b <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 2:22 PM, David Malouf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I
I find some Google Apps more intuitive than others. GMail isn't
pretty but it's generally sound, aspects of Analytics and Street
View I find appealing too.
Perhaps what Google needs is an overarching god on the throne like
Jobs is reputed to be at Apple. You're sure to have read this Wired
article
In my experience it is only graphic designers who think that Google
products are poorly designed. Everyone else just marvels at how easy
they are to use and gets on with it. I'd argue that Google products
are, in the main, exceptionally well designed from an interaction
point of view.
Take the ori
"What part of Google's current product offerings would lead you to
believe there's systemic consistency, cross-product cohesion and
anything but an amateurish aesthetic quality to it, especially with
regard to a comparison to Apple?
Yes there is basically no cross-product cohesion in the google wo
> different handset manufacturers jumping on board
Haven't we seen that movie before? One codebase trying to cater to myriad
hardware "partners" at every iteration and, in the process, getting bloated
and chained down with legacy considerations beyond redemption?
Yep, "write once, run on every m
> The interface is really disconnected, inconsistent, and almost has an
> amateur quality to it.
G1 is a revolution: open source OS, a free-for-all for developers, diverse
devices to run on...Oops, we had that revolution already on the desktop. For
consumers, how did that turn out?
Its manufactu
Having moved our company email to Google Apps, I am excited at the
prospect of having a phone that can connect seamlessly to my
contacts, email, chat and calendar. The stuff around the platform
should improve with different handset manufacturers jumping on board
and integrating it with different as
Chrome ( until now ) maybe good an example of bad design based on
short using experience. but it's hard to say about G1 until now.
Cheers,
-- Jarod
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 11:05 AM, David Malouf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey! BW just posted this diddy on the G1 Design process. :)
> http://www
> The iPhone horn doesn't need any more tooting, but this really
> reflects how great the apple team is with UI development and how bad
> others are.
>
> What does everyone else think?
No comments on the Android platform UI, but what I've seen I've liked.
Physically, I find the iPhone lacking bec
Oh this is so ripe ... Please .. Holidays are only a week away...
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On Sep 25, 2008, at 12:15 AM, An
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 2:22 PM, David Malouf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think my read on the lack of conversation on G1 here is that I
> don't know a single soul who bought it or cared about it. It is a
> non-issue in this community. I think the only people talking about it
> are developers, a
On Sep 24, 2008, at 5:36 PM, David Malouf wrote:
I have been saying that Google is an "non-design" organization for
years. Thanx Andrei!!! 8-)
G-d Damn It we agree again! Is this becoming a habit?
We won't truly agree on much of the larger picture until you change
your stance that "inte
Hey! BW just posted this diddy on the G1 Design process. :)
http://www.businessweek.com/innovate/next/archives/2008/09/inside_googles.html?campaign_id=rss_innovate
-- dave
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Posted from the new ixda.org
http://www.ixda.org/discuss
Like anything Googely, it is going to be beta until it can either be
declared a success, or fade away.
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Posted from the new ixda.org
http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=33456
I have been saying that Google is an "non-design" organization for
years. Thanx Andrei!!! 8-)
G-d Damn It we agree again! Is this becoming a habit?
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Posted from the new ixda.org
http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=33456
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On Sep 24, 2008, at 9:10 AM, Peter Knocke wrote:
The interface is really disconnected, inconsistent, and almost has an
amateur quality to it. (not the good kind) It not only boggles my
mind they they would release something so disconnected, but that so
many people are so excited for it. If an
I think my read on the lack of conversation on G1 here is that I
don't know a single soul who bought it or cared about it. It is a
non-issue in this community. I think the only people talking about it
are developers, and even then I'm not hearing a heck of a lot about
it.
>From HTC's ugly retro Pa
"but to my surprise I haven't seen any G1 debates coming up here from the
release this week."
I think, for me at least - there is no way to debate or discuss something we
haven't played with yet. IxD kinda depends on the ability to interact, and
since I haven't, I won't comment.
--
~ will
"Whe
Sorry if I'm rehashing a conversation here, but to my surprise I
haven't seen any G1 debates coming up here from the release this week.
So I'll startOh my...what a mess. I really enjoy gizmodo's write up
http://gizmodo.com/5053734/how-many-google-phone-engineers-does-it-take-to-tell-the-
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