Re: [IxDA Discuss] Opportunities with Mozilla Labs and IxDA

2009-04-26 Thread Pascal Finette
Hi Brian, Yes, I agree on the rating topic. See also my blog post on this topic at: http://www.finette.co.uk/blog/index.php/2009/04/on-rating-mechanisms/ On the discussion forum - we just migrated the forum to a Google Group, the link on the wiki is now updated; you'll find the group here: http

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Opportunities with Mozilla Labs and IxDA

2009-04-24 Thread Brian Mila
@Chris - Dude that's super cool! Online social collaboration is so awesome when you see it working in action. @Pascal - Yes, I think discoverability is really the big issue (although a good issue to have :) You know what else I was thinking about the ratingsthe rating system should have

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Opportunities with Mozilla Labs and IxDA

2009-04-23 Thread Pascal Finette
@Brian Mila This is an interesting thought and something we've talked about quite a bit internally. As all submissions to the Mozilla Concept Series are under open licensees and the Concept Series aims to be a place for concepts around the Open Web (and not only Mozilla products, such as Firefox)

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Opportunities with Mozilla Labs and IxDA

2009-04-21 Thread Janna Hicks DeVylder
Chris, this is excellent! We would love to hear more about anyone's experiences if you are participating in the Mozilla Lab opportunities or other open source initiatives. This will help us as we talk further with orgs to understand what kind of opportunities we should be surfacing and bringing ba

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Opportunities with Mozilla Labs and IxDA

2009-04-20 Thread Chris Stone
Regarding the Mozilla Labs part of this thread, I started following Aza's concept mockups about 8-10weeks ago. In watching the progress and checking out the archives I found myself feeling both humbled and inspired that he/MozLabs were opening up their process to public debate and had called for pa

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Opportunities with Mozilla Labs and IxDA

2009-04-11 Thread Brian Mila
I was thinking more about this. If it existed, and I wanted to use it, what would I want to get out of it? I think I would want to see, to quickly skim, related concepts. I'm interested in doing a new edit-in-place grid perhaps, and I want to flip through a bunch of images of such grids, and t

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Opportunities with Mozilla Labs and IxDA

2009-04-08 Thread Jack Moffett
On Apr 8, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Angel Marquez wrote: I'll just label my statements as art and leave it open to interpretation and the intent to the user. Just as long as you don't start saying "Moo" repeatedly. Jack Jack L. Moffett Senior Interaction Designer inmedius 412.459.0310 x219 htt

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Opportunities with Mozilla Labs and IxDA

2009-04-08 Thread Angel Marquez
Sounds like you got it to me. Best Regards, Angel I'll just label my statements as art and leave it open to interpretation and the intent to the user. >>Good ideas simply prevail, bad ideas sink. I totally disagree with this; but, maybe your black is my white and my white your black. On Wed, A

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Opportunities with Mozilla Labs and IxDA

2009-04-08 Thread Pascal Finette
Hi Angel, Sure, let me explain: "Not letting someone see what the choices are and claiming ability to make a solid & robust judgement call is where skewing begins." I don't know what you reference here - I mentioned that we are not sure which sort of rating system to use (e.g. up/down ratings a

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Opportunities with Mozilla Labs and IxDA

2009-04-08 Thread Angel Marquez
What confuses you about the statement? On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 5:09 AM, Pascal Finette wrote: > Hi Angel, > > I believe I don't fully understand your two points here - would you > mind explaining what you mean by: > > "Not letting someone see what the choices are and claiming ability > to make a

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Opportunities with Mozilla Labs and IxDA

2009-04-08 Thread Pascal Finette
Hi Angel, I believe I don't fully understand your two points here - would you mind explaining what you mean by: "Not letting someone see what the choices are and claiming ability to make a solid & robust judgement call is where skewing begins." and "I think open source collaboration makes this

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Opportunities with Mozilla Labs and IxDA

2009-04-08 Thread Angel Marquez
>>they are usually skewed and if you are not very careful on how to set your rating criteria and make sure that you only collect 'good' data you end up with something like DIGG - which might be the 'wisdom of crowds' but doesn't necessarily reflect a solid & robust judgment call. Not letting someo

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Opportunities with Mozilla Labs and IxDA

2009-04-08 Thread Pascal Finette
Hi Brian, this is an interesting idea. In general I'm not a huge fan of ratings - they are usually skewed and if you are not very careful on how to set your rating criteria and make sure that you only collect 'good' data you end up with something like DIGG - which might be the 'wisdom of crowds' b

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Opportunities with Mozilla Labs and IxDA

2009-04-08 Thread Pascal Finette
Deyan, thank you very much for your kind offer - I'll be in touch with you via email. -Pascal . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=40933 ___

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Opportunities with Mozilla Labs and IxDA

2009-04-07 Thread Deyan Vitanov
Janna, Pascal, My name is Deyan and I am part of the redmarkit team (http://www.redmarkit.com). I recently stumbled upon this discussion thread and wanted to reach out, because it seems that we could perhaps contribute meaningfully to this project. We owe a lot to the open source community and wan

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Opportunities with Mozilla Labs and IxDA

2009-04-06 Thread Brian Mila
As far as ratings go, why not do both? Instead of only letting only people with higher status ("elite") people vote, why not allow everyone to vote but maintain the scores separately? One rating given by the elite people, and one rating given by the regular, non-elite folk. Present them both, s

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Opportunities with Mozilla Labs and IxDA

2009-04-05 Thread Alan Salmoni
Thanks Pascal. This could b an interesting project for all us IXDers to contribute towards. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=40933 We

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Opportunities with Mozilla Labs and IxDA

2009-04-02 Thread Angel Marquez
Yea, I think it would be sweet if you could add in the File menu drop down a 'scoure net and send webpage as wireframe' addition (kinda like the send webpage as email in safari). You would be able, in one click (maybe two), to enter your theme 'automotive' (custom preferences available for custom s

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Opportunities with Mozilla Labs and IxDA

2009-04-02 Thread Pascal Finette
@Alan That's a good point - and we are equally as cautious about rating systems as you are. There are a couple of approaches which can make this a bit better - e.g. Stackoverflow.com requires you to have a certain status (measured by past activity) to be able to rate. This puts at least a filter

[IxDA Discuss] Opportunities with Mozilla Labs and IxDA

2009-04-01 Thread IxDA Board of Directors
Hi everyone, We have been talking with Mozilla about how our two communities can tap into each other, and I think there are some exciting ideas in the works. I've seen some calls for a more open source approach to the work we do, so here's your chance. We're talking about co-sponsored design cha

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Opportunities with Mozilla Labs and IxDA

2009-04-01 Thread Angel Marquez
I think each region should have a team lead, one of those famous people, and an equally regionally distributed team. After they have all been evaluated the regional teams combine and synthesize what they have. I want to be on Saffer and Barbara Ballards team. I have a list if items that fit the bi

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Opportunities with Mozilla Labs and IxDA

2009-04-01 Thread Alan Salmoni
A wider rating system might be biased a) in favour of famous people, b) against static prototypes whose working needs to be explained in text (rather: in favour of slick and expensive presentations regardless of idea quality), or c) ideas that are. How will ideas that have never been rated (ie, jus

[IxDA Discuss] Opportunities with Mozilla Labs and IxDA

2009-04-01 Thread Janna Hicks DeVylder
Hi everyone, We have been talking with Mozilla about how our two communities can tap into each other, and I think there are some exciting ideas in the works. I've seen some calls for a more open source approach to the work we do, so here's your chance. Many great ideas are on the table, but one