Re: [IxDA Discuss] Proper layout of article

2009-01-14 Thread Itamar Medeiros
There were a series of articles by Joshua David McClurg-Genevese (http://www.digital-web.com/about/contributors/joshua_david_mcclurg_genevese) at Digital Web Magazine about general principles of design, in which he talks about some good-old Gestalt principles: * Balance * Rhythm * Pr

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Proper layout of article

2009-01-14 Thread Angel Marquez
I think running analytics locally with something like urchin would do the trick with a well thought out script. Thanks for your concern. On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Etan Lightstone wrote: > Angel, I'm curious how you conducted this 'theoretical' usability > study... > > It sounds like the o

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Proper layout of article

2009-01-14 Thread Etan Lightstone
Angel, I'm curious how you conducted this 'theoretical' usability study... It sounds like the one you described was treated like a focus group, asking opinion questions about preferences to A vs B. This typically produces questionable results, and is too prone to being manipulated by the facilita

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Proper layout of article

2009-01-14 Thread Per Axbom
Given that there is lots of other content (advertisements and such) in the same column as the photo, it is not self-evident that the photo is part of the article. Also, from a search engine and accessibility perspective it's better to group related information, and also to push the relevant content

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Proper layout of article

2009-01-14 Thread Angel Marquez
>>It's no use testing bad designs. A-B-testing will only work if both alternatives are good (good enough to meet the requirements). I agree. Their was no problem with the prototypes, they both achieved the desired result efficiently with different layouts. >>If there's an opinion war after testing

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Proper layout of article

2009-01-14 Thread Yohan Creemers
It's no use testing bad designs. A-B-testing will only work if both alternatives are good (good enough to meet the requirements). If there's an opinion war after testing, then I would think that the design problem wasn't clear to start with. Did the stakeholders agree on what problem the design sh

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Proper layout of article

2009-01-13 Thread Angel Marquez
>>NoJ was saying you should have fired whoever you had doing your facilitating. Ha, I was hoping that was the case. I wish I could have done something constructive to remedy the situation. >>Let me see if I have this right: The test was in the form of a series of single user tests where each

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Proper layout of article

2009-01-13 Thread Angel Marquez
I think the prototypes were from fireworks. Off hand I don't remember exactly what I was citing, I was new and I didn't go into battle mode when it didn't make sense. It was totally apparent though. people were smiling, verbally saying why they liked such and such as opposed to looking befuddled an

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Proper layout of article

2009-01-13 Thread Katie Albers
No kidding...I'm with Jared on this one. What evidence are they citing? For that matter, what evidence are *you* citing? What on earth format were you using to evaluate these prototypes? This has all the earmarks of something that was a total cockup from the planning stages. kt Katie A

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Proper layout of article

2009-01-13 Thread Jared Spool
On Jan 13, 2009, at 3:40 PM, Angel Marquez wrote: What would you do in this situation: You work for a company and you are doing usability testing. You are providing your research subjects with prototypes from 2 outside vendors. The research subjects clearly prefer using prototype B. Afte

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Proper layout of article

2009-01-13 Thread Angel Marquez
I agree, completely. Usability testing should be the answer. After all that is what the hoopla is all about, right? What would you do in this situation: You work for a company and you are doing usability testing. You are providing your research subjects with prototypes from 2 outside vendors. The

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Proper layout of article

2009-01-13 Thread Jared Spool
On Jan 13, 2009, at 1:19 PM, Kordian Piotr Klecha wrote: As for now we have opinion vs opinion, so I am looking for stronger arguments. I highly recommend usability testing. Great way to resolve these opinion wars. Jared Jared M. Spool User Interface Engineering 510 Turnpike St., Suite 1

[IxDA Discuss] Proper layout of article

2009-01-13 Thread Kordian Piotr Klecha
Articles consist of typical elements: heading, lead, main text and photo(s); usually there is also some box with "inform a friend", "rate the article", comments and so on. I am looking for a studies focusing on this topic: proper web-article layout. We are discussing proposed layout of articles i