Re: [IxDA Discuss] Should IxDA support a US National Design Policy?

2009-02-20 Thread Phillip Hunter
Josh, To respond to your more specific question, I am willing to be part of a mixed or all IxDA group working on a specific issue and am most interested in items 5, 8, and 10 in the current top priorities list. Phillip . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Should IxDA support a US National Design Policy?

2009-02-20 Thread Janna Cameron
fforts. Janna -Original Message- From: discuss-boun...@lists.interactiondesigners.com [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.interactiondesigners.com] On Behalf Of Mary Specht Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 4:37 PM To: disc...@ixda.org Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] Should IxDA support a US National Desi

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Should IxDA support a US National Design Policy?

2009-02-19 Thread Mary Specht
To build on Gabby's comment, we could bite off a small piece of #2. What if IxDA members "adopted" various government sites, and reviewed their key interactions? We'd give advice for making their (often byzantine) sites more effective, both for end users and for organizations (in the form of less

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Should IxDA support a US National Design Policy?

2009-02-19 Thread Mary Specht
To build on Gabby's comment, we could bite off a small piece of #2. What if IxDA members "adopted" various government sites, and reviewed their key interactions? We'd give advice for making their (often byzantine) sites more effective, both for end users and for organizations (in the form of less

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Should IxDA support a US National Design Policy?

2009-02-19 Thread Steve Baty
Josh, I'd like to tie this back to the mission of the IxDA and highlight two of the points from that statement: * Evangelism* - Promoting awareness of the discipline, craft, and value of interaction design and design research among businesses, academia, consumers, and colleagues *Innovation* - Ad

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Should IxDA support a US National Design Policy?

2009-02-19 Thread Caroline Jarrett
line Jarrett Cc: 'IXDA list' Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] Should IxDA support a US National Design Policy? On Feb 18, 2009, at 4:37 PM, Caroline Jarrett wrote: Jack, could you give me some references to this work? Due to my fascination with forms in general and tax forms in particu

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Should IxDA support a US National Design Policy?

2009-02-18 Thread Joshua Seiden
Thanks for all the input folks. Let me put a finer point on what "participation" means. Participation means that YOU feel motivated to work on one of these 10 initiatives. Do you? If so, how? Would you put a group of IxDA members together to drive one of these initiatives forward? if not, what wou

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Should IxDA support a US National Design Policy?

2009-02-18 Thread Jack Moffett
On Feb 18, 2009, at 4:37 PM, Caroline Jarrett wrote: Jack, could you give me some references to this work? Due to my fascination with forms in general and tax forms in particular, I'd love to find out more about this claim, which I'd not heard about previously despite a few contacts here an

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Should IxDA support a US National Design Policy?

2009-02-18 Thread Phillip Hunter
I am no fan of big government, but let's face it that some very large initiatives simply need some regulatory heft behind them. Perhaps this is one and I believe it should be explored. The comments about keeping government out of creative efforts seem odd. Are we better or worse off for having

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Should IxDA support a US National Design Policy?

2009-02-18 Thread Caroline Jarrett
>From Jack Moffett > Another point of reference is the work of > Richard Buchanan and Tony Golsby-Smith > with the Australian Tax Office, which > started by looking at a redesign of > the tax forms but ended up redesigning > the entire tax system. > Jack, could you give me some references t

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Should IxDA support a US National Design Policy?

2009-02-18 Thread Lisa
The IxDA should absolutely participate in and support the US National Design Policy. The current draft proposal is attempting to shine a light on the importance of Design and design in every day life. Why would IxDA not want to help shape a national design policy? If the group decides against par

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Should IxDA support a US National Design Policy?

2009-02-18 Thread Jack Moffett
Certainly, it isn't perfect. However, I view it as a foot in the door. This is the only venture in this direction I know of that seems to have legs. I think it is worth getting behind, even if we don't agree with everything on it. Furthermore, let's pretend that it does have legs and actual

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Should IxDA support a US National Design Policy?

2009-02-18 Thread j . scot
Like Angel, I like 8, 9, and 10, and though I understand frustrations others have expressed, I agree with Dave and Andrei about the overall initiative. I therefore support engagement, focused on asserting our collective informed opinion, and attempting to moderate misguided or overly ambitious elem

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Should IxDA support a US National Design Policy?

2009-02-18 Thread Andrei Herasimchuk
On Feb 18, 2009, at 10:50 AM, dave malouf wrote: 1) The total list is a draft and they are looking for feeback. Its a sketch being evaluated. I have problems w/ the after party invite as opposed to getting invited to the awards ceremony itself, but I can move on from that. "After party" invit

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Should IxDA support a US National Design Policy?

2009-02-18 Thread Harlan Weber
I agree with Philip for the most part, though I share Mark's split between frustration and appreciation. Although it's understandably a weird feeling to have government involvement in what has purely been a creative space, I also feel there's a lot of opportunity to do good here - There are a ton

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Should IxDA support a US National Design Policy?

2009-02-18 Thread dave malouf
A few thoughts: 1) The total list is a draft and they are looking for feeback. Its a sketch being evaluated. I have problems w/ the after party invite as opposed to getting invited to the awards ceremony itself, but I can move on from that. 2) Government in any professional space. Whether a gov't

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Should IxDA support a US National Design Policy?

2009-02-18 Thread Angel Anderson
I particularly like 8, 9, & 10 but I feel that overall, the list is a bit lofty. Even if we gave the rubber stamp they want, what would that mean in a practical sense for IxDA members? Probably not much. Also, how would we reconcile such ties to the US government when we're supposed to be an intern

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Should IxDA support a US National Design Policy?

2009-02-18 Thread Will Evans
I have said this before - on their blog site, in conversations with DaveM, other places. I think they are misguided bordering on clueless. It's one thing to bring together a cabal of policy wonks, academics, and bureaucrats to create a national design policy; it's another act of hubris to n

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Should IxDA support a US National Design Policy?

2009-02-18 Thread mark schraad
This effort frustrates me. I really appreciate and applaud the effort that went into it. But items 2 and 3, while admirable, really have no business being on this list. They are not only political agendas but are highly charged and likely to sink the entire effort. These two items need, and are wor

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Should IxDA support a US National Design Policy?

2009-02-18 Thread Maurice Carty
KEEP GOVERNMENTS OUT OF OUR CREATIVE SPACE!!! I'm a definate "NO" . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=38901 Welcome to the Interaction

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Should IxDA support a US National Design Policy?

2009-02-18 Thread Phillip Hunter
Josh, I think this is a matter of not whether but how and to what extent. I had been thinking about something like this for Obama's Citizen's Briefing Book, but that is over and this is better anyway. I'm curious about which items on the list were disagreed with. The problem I see with the list

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Should IxDA support a US National Design Policy?

2009-02-18 Thread Gabby Hon
I'm in the 'absolutely not' column. The proposal is too airy-fairy impractical with overtly political items ('carbon neutral', for example) thrown in. The United States is dealing with huge problems that would not have been helped by 'design thinking'. And the last thing we need is more levels of

[IxDA Discuss] Should IxDA support a US National Design Policy?

2009-02-18 Thread Josh Seiden
Folk, Recently, a group of leaders from various US design organizations came together to discuss the question of a US National design policy. This summit meeting resulted in 10 design policy recommendations, which can be found here: http://www.designpolicy.org/usdp/policy-proposals.html (The full