Re: [IxDA Discuss] Tog on Gestures will force the mouse into retirement

2009-01-05 Thread Elizabeth Bacon
Let's all help kill the mouse! I'm OK with keeping the keyboard for awhile, though. :) Cheers, Liz . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=36725 __

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Tog on Gestures will force the mouse into retirement

2009-01-05 Thread Mark Ahlenius
Hi, the "technology" exists, but perhaps the specific application implementation you mentioned may not. While I was in the Labs I was researching some touch screens for table tops and ran across a couple of systems which would detect gestures without touching the screens. They could be done (i

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Tog on Gestures will force the mouse into retirement

2009-01-05 Thread Torey Maerz
My prediction is that the mouse will not go away until it just does what I think. http://is.gd/eBpt . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=36725 __

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Tog on Gestures will force the mouse into retirement

2009-01-05 Thread Sam Menter
I imagine a touchscreen control, roughly the same size as a computer keyboard, but with the same dimensions ratio as the monitor, that you use to control the main monitor / PC. It would respond to various of gestures - 2 fingers, 3 fingers, swiping, tapping etc. This could combine the benefits of

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Tog on Gestures will force the mouse into retirement

2009-01-05 Thread Helen Killingbeck
I would love to expand this discussion to how the use of gestural interaction, instead of the mouse, will allow those users who have been hindered by the mouse. I am thinking of those who use screen readers and other assistive technologies. Before the mouse we had keyboard, and accommodating thos

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Tog on Gestures will force the mouse into retirement

2009-01-04 Thread SteveJB
Wouldn't adding a touch sensitive surface to replace the conventional 2 buttons and scroll wheel on a mouse be a way of adding finger gesture sensing technology to conventional mouses? The technology for adding touch sensing to contoured surfaces maybe a few years off but it would certainly be mor

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Tog on Gestures will force the mouse into retirement

2009-01-02 Thread Joshua Muskovitz
I agree with the masses here. Mice and keyboards are remarkably efficient devices. I try to imagine operating my microwave with a Wiimote, running photoshop with a multitouch screen (what, fingers aren't transparent? who knew?), or using voice commands for practically anything. They are all novel

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Tog on Gestures will force the mouse into retirement

2009-01-02 Thread Janna
How can a group of well-educated, innovative and forward thinking people not be interested in some of this research? The computer keyboard is a soft side-step from typewriter to computing machine. The mouse is ok, but as one of many sufferers of a repetitive stress injury, it seems to have created

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Tog on Gestures will force the mouse into retirement

2009-01-02 Thread Krystal Higgins
RSI issues will remain no matter what the input device (even if just gestural), since it's a catchall term. Treadmill-addicts, tennis pros, painters, truck drivers, all these people experience their own forms of repetitive strain injuries (rotater cuff injury, shin splints, neck strain, sciatica,

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Tog on Gestures will force the mouse into retirement

2009-01-02 Thread David Malouf
I wonder how a device like this: http://www.gizmowatch.com/entry/olpc-xo-2-dual-touchscreen-concept-laptop-to-sell-for-75/ Changes the the requirement for a mouse? I know it is only a concept but if I think about multiple touch planes instead of a single one, I can do both indirect (touch pad) an

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Tog on Gestures will force the mouse into retirement

2009-01-02 Thread Troy Gardner
I don't see the mouse going away, I tend to view gestures like Wii Devices, operating in a bigger space. I don't see many playing wii tennis in a chair, and I don't see many mouse+keyboard while standing up. Having played with mulittouch (owned a TouchStream keyboard/mouse), played with FIR, webca

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Tog on Gestures will force the mouse into retirement

2009-01-02 Thread Dan Saffer
On Dec 30, 2008, at 5:16 AM, Jakub Linowski wrote: Furthermore, when using the mouse the hand rests at a 90 degree angle and is supported by a desk, which suits longer working hours. Will people be able to move their fingers and wave their arms for 9 to 5, 5 days a week? Unlikely as it will req

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Tog on Gestures will force the mouse into retirement

2008-12-31 Thread Jakub Linowski
Somehow every time someone says the mouse will go on retirement I am not convinced. It's a seriously well designed product which has lasted for what, over 40 years? The mouse provides quite a bit of precision. Yes, perhaps it takes effort to learn, but with time people can move items around at pixe

[IxDA Discuss] Tog on Gestures will force the mouse into retirement

2008-12-30 Thread Will Evans
@hannusalonen tweeted this article this morning which was in the Financial Times. Including the article b/c it was behind an annoying signup/registration process. http://tinyurl.com/9hmpj4 "The Tog: Mouse users are "little more than cavemen, running around pointing at symbols and 'grunting' with e