Re: [IxDA Discuss] Toward a search dominant wayfinding paradigm (worthit?)

2009-09-24 Thread rob Enslin
I'm really enjoying this discussion. To my mind it depends on the degree of complexity and context of information within the site to create a balance of search methods. Related to context, users using search is inversely proportional to context. The greater the context the users' need affords (a s

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Toward a search dominant wayfinding paradigm (worthit?)

2009-09-24 Thread Robert Hoekman Jr
> > It's a matter of the nature of the content. If people know unique > identifiers (exact titles, authors, part numbers), then search will always > trump any category hierarchy or facets. That's why media products (such as > books and music) do well with search. > > However, search on data where t

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Toward a search dominant wayfinding paradigm (worthit?)

2009-09-24 Thread mark schraad
As a somewhat interesting tangent... when I was working in portal world we introduced vertical or channel specific search. As almost an after thought we included sponsored links. The revenue stream turn out to be wildly beyond our expectations. Were we new to the indexing process... and as we got b

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Toward a search dominant wayfinding paradigm (worthit?)

2009-09-24 Thread Bryan Minihan
This may just be my bias after designing both search and taxonomy systems for a few really big companies, but I doubt that searching is actually replacing browsing. Rather, it seems that search technology has improved such that searching is finding its proper niche in the user experience. While r

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Toward a search dominant wayfinding paradigm (worthit?)

2009-09-24 Thread Joshua Porter
.com/ http://findability.org/ -Original Message- From: Jared Spool [mailto:jsp...@uie.com] Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 12:08 PM To: Peter Morville Cc: disc...@ixda.org Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] Toward a search dominant wayfinding paradigm (worthit?) On Sep 24, 2009, at 9:18 A

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Toward a search dominant wayfinding paradigm (worthit?)

2009-09-24 Thread Peter Morville
lto:jsp...@uie.com] Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 12:08 PM To: Peter Morville Cc: disc...@ixda.org Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] Toward a search dominant wayfinding paradigm (worthit?) On Sep 24, 2009, at 9:18 AM, Peter Morville wrote: > I agree that large corporate (and .edu and .gov)

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Toward a search dominant wayfinding paradigm (worthit?)

2009-09-24 Thread Jared Spool
On Sep 24, 2009, at 9:18 AM, Peter Morville wrote: I agree that large corporate (and .edu and .gov) websites should at least seriously consider migrating to a search-centered strategy. I predict this will fail. Browsing rarely scales well. Nothing scales well, but I believe a well tuned

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Toward a search dominant wayfinding paradigm (worthit?)

2009-09-24 Thread Peter Morville
Subject: [IxDA Discuss] Toward a search dominant wayfinding paradigm (worthit?) Hi all, For the past several months I have been perseverating on the concept of creating a search-dominant wayfinding system for my web site: Adobe.com. Why, you may ask? My thought (and I know Jared, at minimum will