Re: [DNG] Cease battling each other in e-mail (was: Of confidence and support and the future of Devuan.)

2019-04-24 Thread Bruce Perens via Dng
Jaromil, it really is time for you to stop. It is time for YOU to stop. It is TIME for you to stop. On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 11:24 PM Jaromil wrote: > > dear Rick, > > I wholeheartedly agree with you and others here that this > communication shouldn't have been public, I also consider this a > da

Re: [DNG] Cease battling each other in e-mail (was: Of confidence and support and the future of Devuan.)

2019-04-24 Thread KatolaZ
On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 08:23:30AM +0200, Jaromil wrote: [cut] > > FTR I agree with you about the noble meaning of (non institutional?) > politics. I should have used just the term populism. I do believe > Devuan caretakers should show their care for Devuan by dedicating > themselves to solve co

Re: [DNG] Cease battling each other in e-mail (was: Of confidence and support and the future of Devuan.)

2019-04-24 Thread Jaromil
dear Rick, I wholeheartedly agree with you and others here that this communication shouldn't have been public, I also consider this a damage procured to the project, which I did not start nor was able to mediate. As I admitted in devuan-dev, I don't think I'm apt for mediation on this issue anymo

Re: [DNG] New application ready to test: hopman

2019-04-24 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 24/04/2019 à 20:43, Steve Litt a écrit : On Wed, 24 Apr 2019 09:05:12 +0200 Didier Kryn wrote: Le 24/04/2019 à 01:05, Evilham via Dng a écrit : Am 24. April 2019 00:24:56 MESZ schrieb Steve Litt 3. Document the misbehaviour when users... Misbehave (okay, that was a bad joke).     The

Re: [DNG] Cease battling each other in e-mail

2019-04-24 Thread Mark Rousell
On 24/04/2019 19:11, Rick Moen wrote: > I waited a day, before commenting about this, because I needed to ponder > the matter carefully and not seem as if I were taking sides in > intra-Devuan Project interpersonal warfare. > > Jaromil, I was extremely serious when I said you-all caretakers should

Re: [DNG] Cease battling each other in e-mail (was: Of confidence and support and the future of Devuan.)

2019-04-24 Thread Simon Hobson
I've been lurking and resisting from posting, largely because ... I'm the last person to be telling people how to communicate in a friendly manner. I'm autistic, and one of the traits I get from that is the tendency to completely miss the subtleties of interpersonal communications, and to speak

Re: [DNG] New application ready to test: hopman

2019-04-24 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 24 Apr 2019 09:05:12 +0200 Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 24/04/2019 à 01:05, Evilham via Dng a écrit : > > Am 24. April 2019 00:24:56 MESZ schrieb Steve Litt > > 3. Document the misbehaviour when users... Misbehave (okay, that > > was a bad joke). > >     There's an infinite number of wa

[DNG] Cease battling each other in e-mail (was: Of confidence and support and the future of Devuan.)

2019-04-24 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Jaromil (jaro...@dyne.org): > Precisely. I am afraid though, that people will just go on writing > "please stay <3" letters to CenturionDan, (who is the one responsible > for Katolaz to leave, for the CI for being down, for this drama here) > without even thinking how other volunteers feel

[DNG] [devuan-dev] Of confidence and support and the future of Devuan.

2019-04-24 Thread Edward Bartolo via Dng
As a Devuan user I suggest the Devuan Administrative Team to consider the thinking of a detailed contingency plan in case of a crises that should include how to deal with internal conflicts and what to do when important servers fail. I would also suggest setting up emergency supplimentary servers t

Re: [DNG] [devuan-dev] Of confidence and support and the future of Devuan.

2019-04-24 Thread info at smallinnovations dot nl
On 24-04-19 09:20, Jaromil wrote: > On Tue, 23 Apr 2019, KatolaZ wrote: > >> Counting individual contributions to a voluntary project is totally >> pointless: since there is no price tag on "one hour of voluntary >> work", then a voluntary contribution of one hour is as important and >> as valuable

Re: [DNG] [devuan-dev] Of confidence and support and the future of Devuan.

2019-04-24 Thread Jaromil
On Tue, 23 Apr 2019, KatolaZ wrote: > Counting individual contributions to a voluntary project is totally > pointless: since there is no price tag on "one hour of voluntary > work", then a voluntary contribution of one hour is as important and > as valuable as 1000 hours of voluntary contribution.

Re: [DNG] New application ready to test: hopman

2019-04-24 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 24/04/2019 à 00:24, Steve Litt a écrit : On Tue, 23 Apr 2019 12:22:44 +0200 Didier Kryn wrote:     Hello Devuaneers.     I have put on https://git.devuan.org/kryn/hopman an application to let mount/umount/open filesystems on hotplug mass storage devises such as USB sticks or SD cards. This

Re: [DNG] New application ready to test: hopman

2019-04-24 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 24/04/2019 à 01:05, Evilham via Dng a écrit : Am 24. April 2019 00:24:56 MESZ schrieb Steve Litt : >On Tue, 23 Apr 2019 12:22:44 +0200 >Didier Kryn wrote: > >>     Hello Devuaneers. >> >>     I have put on https://git.devuan.org/kryn/hopman an application >> to let mount/umount/open filesyst