ic-id: %html-pubid%)
(empty-sosofo))
doc-sosofo)
doc-sosofo
If that escapes all the special characters, which I think it might, I'd try
(make formatting-instruction data: (include-file "...")).
If that doesn't work, well, there&#x
ediaobject or inlinemediaobject for your SVG diagram. If that doesn't
work, let me know.
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It's not a major problem, just a minor
| annoyance and inconsistency.
What would you prefer, ?
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specific to a given programming language.
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t to work.
What messages do you get from Jade?
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cter element is to allow people to use names; if
you really want to use codepoints, can't you just use numeric
character references?
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[2] http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/sgml/4.2CR1/
[3] http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/docbook-4.2-CR1.html
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don't worry about it if you're
not sure. But if you think it's about the stylesheets or some other
aspect of processing with a specific tool, please use the -apps list.
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OpenJade or XSL.
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(Ljava/lang/String;)F not found
| Transformation failed: Run-time errors were reported
Uh, try a more recent version of the Java VM?
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f the table isn't properly formatted (lines are sticking out).
| - The header of the table is missing a line on the top.
These are formatting choices (or bugs :-) made by the folks at
RenderX, you'll have to ask them.
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e case where you want the same
callout number to appear twice (and have semantically the meaning of
"is the same" not "is a reference to") in the same programlisting.
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inks. Of course you will need
| to customize stylesheets to support this correctly by inserting bulleted
| numbers of whatever else you prefer.
Uh, I think that should work already. Just use xref.
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to keep together. That should work, though
some FO processors may not support it. And, of course, if the stuff is longer
than a physical page, you'll probably get a page break anyway. :-)
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ose features are?
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, 03:00JST+) for
| one hour.
|
| Agenda
|
| 1. Roll call
Dick Hamilton
Nancy (Paisner) Harrison
Paul Grosso (prospective)
Sabine Ocker
Michael Smith
Bob Stayton
Norman Walsh
Regrets
Dennis Evans
Meeting called to order, 13:02EST.
| 2. Accepting the minutes[1] of the previous
Dick Hamilton
Nancy (Paisner) Harrison
Paul Grosso (prospective)
Sabine Ocker
Michael Smith
Bob Stayton
Norman Walsh
Regrets
Dennis Evans
Meeting called to order, 13:02EST.
| 2. Accepting the minutes[1] of the previous meeting
Accepted.
| 3. Review of the agenda
None.
| 4
The DocBook TC has published XML Character Entities V0.2[1]
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[1] http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xmlcharent/0.2/
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[1] http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/htmlforms/1.1/index.shtml
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mbo until the W3C SVG WG
publishes a properly modularized SVG DTD.
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t if you put indexterms or some other tag on each of those lines :-)
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ant to do this? What is the significance of the newline
after the image?
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data-parallel operation
data-parallel operation
data-parallel operation
data-parallel operation
data-parallel operation
ending here?
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The ebxml-dev list is spo
docbook.xsl. If you're using DSSSL,
enable nochunks.
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e link here ...
What processor are you using to produce output?
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p concerns.
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you use role in the short term.
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he title of the
work, not the title of the work, at least in some sense) occurred after
TDG was written and I haven't fixed the examples (yet).
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/ Peter Eisentraut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say:
| Norman Walsh writes:
|
|> / Peter Eisentraut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say:
|> | That puts the burden on the user to verify manually that the nesting is
|> | correct. Wasn't that what DTD's were
the TOC
by hand.
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fine, but I'd like to know about it :-)
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/ Michael Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say:
| Norman Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[...]
| I like the simplicity of it, but if we go with it, I think it might be
| useful to add a "class" attribute on Tocentry, with an enumerated list
| of values that correspon
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call
Sabine Ocker
Bob Stayton
Norman Walsh, Chair
Absent:
Dennis Evans
Nancy (Paisner) Harrison
Michael Smith
Regrets:
Dick Hamilton
Failed to achieve quorum. Meeting abandoned at 1:30p EST.
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entrys:
My Toc
Chapter One
Section One
Section Two
Section Two.One
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manual ToC for an application where this
would be insufficient (assume we carry forward the appropriate pageno
and linking attributes)?
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rzealous in reducing the content model
of several elements (option among them). DocBook 4.2 will have the broader
content model again. DocBook 4.2 beta 2 should be out next week.
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ppose if you imagine a fully-RDF'd (or topic-mapped, I'm agnostic)
world, you can imagine even fancier things.
My two, uh, cents.
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Norman Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | The
bug in the style sheets?
|>
|>
|>
|>
|> Some text
|>
|>
Possibly. What HTML does the stylesheet produce?
| Is this the right list to ask this question on?
This is really a docbook-apps question.
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ent manuals is a much
different problem than trying to reuse paragraphs.
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work in the
stylesheets.
If you give a column an explicit width, like "3in", it doesn't count
towards the relative units. But it does reduce the entire table width
available by 3in.
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/ Yann Dirson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say:
| On Thu, Feb 07, 2002 at 03:47:41PM -0500, Norman Walsh wrote:
|> / Rory Hunter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say:
|> | Something like, mediawidth vs. reproductionwidth (but not to pretentious)?
|>
|> I take y
es are reproductionwidth and reproductiondepth.
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Ch
/ Dave Pawson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say:
| At 08:43 07/02/2002 -0500, Norman Walsh wrote:
|
|>content-width="3in" says the image (before scaling) should be 3in
|>wide. width="3in" says that the area reserved for presentation of the
|>image (irrespec
/ Peter Eisentraut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say:
| Norman Walsh writes:
|
|>
|
| This content model is still very much tied to a particular culture or
| three. Weren't there some ideas to allow character data directly in
| personname?
I've always thought this ma
/ Yann Dirson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say:
| On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 10:31:32AM -0500, Norman Walsh wrote:
|> / Yann Dirson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say:
|> | On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 08:59:41AM -0500, Norman Walsh wrote:
[...]
|> If I say content-width="
owsers something to say before
the reader goes to the trouble of getting his software to decipher all
the rows and columns.
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/ Yann Dirson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say:
| On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 08:59:41AM -0500, Norman Walsh wrote:
|> I propose that we add four additional attributes to DocBook graphic
|> elements: content-width, content-depth, align, and valign
|
| ImageData only ever occurs within
ot;right").
valign
If the scaled content size is shorter than the specified depth,
the image will be aligned within the depth according to this value
(one of "top", "middle", or "bottom").
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Chair, DocBook Technical Committee | to the question, "What are the
atus (eg. Debian)
Is Debian really an informal organization in the US? I'd have guessed
they were a nonprofit, but I take your point.
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:
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Chair, DocBook Technical Committee | little that human patienc
|other) #IMPLIED
otherclass CDATA#IMPLIED
and remove corpname in DocBook V6.0
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http://www
a separate proposal :-)
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source at the moment, but you can read the book
online at http://docbook.org/
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it's been used to typeset scientific texts. Now,
that said, you've got a piece of software with heavily scientific
documentation, which is at least uncommon.
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and superscripts, and a few other symbols. No reason why that
couldn't be text. This adds weight to the argument in favor of adding
text as an alternative in inline equations and equations.
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apps/200201/msg00370.html
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| for anything b
struct.
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| Bride)
attribute on the entry, or a processing
instruction, or even role attributes on markup in the cell. But you'll
need to do a little stylesheet work to get any of these to produce the
output you need.
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/ Peter Eisentraut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say:
| Norman Walsh writes:
|
|> The DocBook TC has had several discussions about additional places in
|> DocBook where it would be beneficial to allow metainfo. Our current
|> candidate list of places is:
|>
|> equa
. I suggest or possibly
.
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ut loosing generality
| for several reasons.
|
| What's the best way to mark up note 144?
What's the content model of the note?
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Norman Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | So
world, one could probably do that.
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ts say).
| Opinions ?
We have all the attributes we need, and we need all the attributes we
have. (That some of this is presentational and not strictly semantic
is something we have to live with, I think.)
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/ Peter Eisentraut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say:
| Norman Walsh writes:
|
|> Do Not Post Attachments
|>
|> Since mailing lists have in the past been unwittingly used for
|> spreading viruses in e-mail attachments, all e-mail attachments are
|> banned from the Do
.
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Chair, DocBook Technical Committee | cents a can. That's a
solicited.
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| DocBook Technical Committee Meeting Minutes: 15 Jan 2002
|
|
| Agenda
|
| 1. Roll call
Dick Hamilton
Nancy (Paisner) Harrison
Sabine Ocker
Michael Smith
Bob Stayton
Norman Walsh
Absent:
Dennis Evans
Resigned:
Patricia Gee-Best
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|http://nwalsh.com/docbook/xsl|DocBook XSL Stylesheets |
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If you have any questions or problems, please conta
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Chair, DocBook Technical Committe
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Chair, DocBook Technical Committee | the point. Inconvenience does not
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| your
nderstand, widely
useful, and very popular DTD. Dozens of organizations are using
DocBook for millions of pages of documentation, in various print
and online formats, worldwide.
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t file
| contains the equation:
Footnotes are processed in footnote-mode; so you may need to add some
of your custom functionality in that mode as well.
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e to the graphic.
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vable (Not found).
%@$@$#?! Fixed. :-)
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Chair, DocBo
he DSSSL standard, but not with Jade.
(Jade doesn't implement the transformation language portion of DSSSL.)
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me we added equations to DocBook, there was
no markup for mathematics, so the only alternative was to allow
graphics for the equation content.
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,
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| useless.--Goethe
and it is somewhat to hurt my
| feeling that it be regarded as spam.
Please accept my appologies.
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ng you,
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/ "Matt G." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say:
>>From: Norman Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>/ "Matt G." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to whine:
>>I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to say.
[...]
| the two former. What
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Chair, DocBook Technical Committee | you immediately understand that he
/ Michael Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say:
| Norman Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| Seems like "Associativelist" might be a more accurate name. Isn't a
| Variablelist basically the same thing as a Lisp/Scheme "alist" -- just
| a list of associ
t do any sorting (yet :-).
| SGML
|
|
Well! Color me red. You can make them links. Nevermind what I said before.
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Norman Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | The shortness of life can neither
http:
ere's no way to make the see and see also terms
proper links. Someone could report that, too :-)
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http
ound, and wish XalanC
| would support XSLT 1.1. I also dearly wish it had a command-line flag
| for specifying an SYSTEM id search path (for external entities and DTD
| subsets), similar to the '-I' option supported by most C/C++
| compilers!!
Check out the XML Catalogs specification and try using p
ems anywhere else,
we probably shouldn't bother in segmented lists.
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http://www.oasis-open.org/docbo
/ Trevor Jenkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say:
| On Fri, 28 Dec 2001, Norman Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> / Trevor Jenkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say:
>> | http://www.mda.org.uk/bmobj/Obthess2.htm
>> >
>> | which shows
ftware or hardware
documentation around?
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